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Husband dinner with mother instead of date night

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dontfuxkwithroy · 19/11/2024 15:10

I need moral support... some context; husband is a bit needy with his family - the neglected sibling, likes to blame me that we don't get invited along to things by his domineering mother / sister (I don't fall into line)..
Friday night my mum offered to babysit (happens rarely, she lives alone, my sister was visiting so was going to help mind our kids, our in laws never offer) I had a big week at work and some major stressful stuff lately so sad looking forward to a night out. Last time I had dinner out was in July.
It was MIL / SIL birthday at weekend also so I thought it would be nice to suggest to husband to invite them to local swanky restaurant. Friday didn't suit. Checked with my babysitters and they said they could do Saturday. Text this to husband who said ok, and that his other sister be there also and he that booking was for a pub grub style place for 5pm.
I was disappointed. I didn't want pub grub I had suggested the local swanky place and I knew his sister was visiting with her 5 year old and wondered who was babysitting the child.
Got home after work and asked who is babysitting your other sisters child and he replied oh she's coming too.
I was livid!! Why the heck would I get a babysitter to mind my 3 young children only to have dinner with a 5 year old at 5pm!! When I suggested that he book us a table elsewhere and we meet MIL and SIL after for a drink he said no way and weren't we going out for their birthday why would he do that??
I was so hurt and disappointed. In the end I stayed at home and got takeaway with kids and he went out for dinner. I haven't spoken to him since. He doesn't understand why I'm so angry and hurt all he can see is that the dinner was about his mother... AIBU??

OP posts:
NewName24 · 19/11/2024 17:38

I agree with most - YABVU here.

You invited them along, not him.
If you wanted a "date night" and you wanted to go to a swanky restaurant, then it seems very bizarre to invite other people along.

Createausername1970 · 19/11/2024 17:40

I agree with the majority.

If you wanted specifically to go out on Friday night to a swanky restaurant with DH, then that's what you should have done.

And, had you said, "we are going to swankiest on Friday, join us if you are free" you would still have some control over the proceedings.

It went wrong when you suggested making it a birthday meal for your in-laws. At this point, bearing in mind it's now a meal for them, then their preferences have to come into play.

dontfuxkwithroy · 19/11/2024 17:58

I should clarify a few points. The original invitation was to solve a present buying issue for my husband. I had suggested he buy a voucher. (We did this last year)

I didn't speak to MIL, I let my husband convey the invitation, time, place etc

It turns out that the booking for pub grub had been made by my in laws several weeks ago for MIL, SIL and other SIL visiting with DN to which we had not been invited.

My issue is that DH decided to tack us onto this booking instead of booking us a separate table. They also had Sunday lunch arranged which I suggested he could do with family and have Saturday night dinner with me.

OP posts:
RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames · 19/11/2024 18:00

Hankunamatata · 19/11/2024 16:36

Friday night date night at swanky place. Saturday with family and all your kids

Agree with this.

Sorry OP YABU. Your suggestion to invite them for their birthdays made it sound like a family thing to actually celebrate their birthdays, the 5 year old is the grandchild and niece so of course the other SIL would want to bring her to join in (and perhaps couldn't have gotten a babysitter anyway!)

You not turning up and keeping your kids at home because they chose a family friendly restaurant for a family meal instead was spiteful, you could have still gone and involved your children in the birthday celebration as one option. Or seeing as dinner was at 5pm, went somewhere a bit more upmarket after the meal.

RunningOutOfImaginitiveUsernames · 19/11/2024 18:03

I do get your disappointment when you had another idea in your head, though.

PeloMom · 19/11/2024 18:05

Your post is confusing. You wanted to invite your husband to dinner to discuss what gift to buy for in laws? Or you wanted to invite the in laws to a posh dinner as a gift? either way, neither is a date night.

BrunetteHarpy · 19/11/2024 18:09

Monoceros · 19/11/2024 17:29

You should have had a date night on Friday night (day your mum originally offered to babysit) and met your MIL for a family meal in a pub with your children on Saturday - sorted! It's insane to be getting mad and sulking about a simple misunderstanding.

Yes, it doesn’t seem to call for this level of outrage. Or indeed any outrage at all.

Kimmeridge · 19/11/2024 18:11

No you're the one who changed 'date night' to dinner for MIL birthday.

Not speaking to him since Saturday because of it though is pathetic.

JJLA · 19/11/2024 19:02

dontfuxkwithroy · 19/11/2024 17:58

I should clarify a few points. The original invitation was to solve a present buying issue for my husband. I had suggested he buy a voucher. (We did this last year)

I didn't speak to MIL, I let my husband convey the invitation, time, place etc

It turns out that the booking for pub grub had been made by my in laws several weeks ago for MIL, SIL and other SIL visiting with DN to which we had not been invited.

My issue is that DH decided to tack us onto this booking instead of booking us a separate table. They also had Sunday lunch arranged which I suggested he could do with family and have Saturday night dinner with me.

Doesn’t change anything - you suggested your children free evening should include your in-laws.

HawkersSouth · 19/11/2024 19:08

YABU. It stopped being a date night when you suggested he invites his family.
Why didn't you still go out? The two of you could have grabbed a drink or two or dessert afterwards?

Wednesdaysdrag · 19/11/2024 19:43

dontfuxkwithroy · 19/11/2024 17:58

I should clarify a few points. The original invitation was to solve a present buying issue for my husband. I had suggested he buy a voucher. (We did this last year)

I didn't speak to MIL, I let my husband convey the invitation, time, place etc

It turns out that the booking for pub grub had been made by my in laws several weeks ago for MIL, SIL and other SIL visiting with DN to which we had not been invited.

My issue is that DH decided to tack us onto this booking instead of booking us a separate table. They also had Sunday lunch arranged which I suggested he could do with family and have Saturday night dinner with me.

Non of that changes anything.

and the whole ‘I suggested he should go for lunch and cancel on them on Saturday night instead’ definitely doesn’t change anything.

You wanted to go out, you suggested it being a group event for THEIR birthdays. But then also wanted to dictate where, when and who could attend.

Then cancelled and didn’t go anyway because you couldn’t get your own way and expected your husband to also cancel plans he made at your suggestion. It’s highly likely that her husbands relationship with his family isn’t the problem. It is you.

You know his sister has a child. Why would you assume the child wouldn’t be there? And now you are subjecting your husband to days of the silent treatment as punishment that you didn’t get you mr own way.

If you want a date night and want to go to the swanky restaurant with your husband, arrange that. No including anyone else. No trying to make it what you want but also a birthday gift for someone else who doesn’t want to go there.

JJLA · 19/11/2024 20:21

Wednesdaysdrag · 19/11/2024 19:43

Non of that changes anything.

and the whole ‘I suggested he should go for lunch and cancel on them on Saturday night instead’ definitely doesn’t change anything.

You wanted to go out, you suggested it being a group event for THEIR birthdays. But then also wanted to dictate where, when and who could attend.

Then cancelled and didn’t go anyway because you couldn’t get your own way and expected your husband to also cancel plans he made at your suggestion. It’s highly likely that her husbands relationship with his family isn’t the problem. It is you.

You know his sister has a child. Why would you assume the child wouldn’t be there? And now you are subjecting your husband to days of the silent treatment as punishment that you didn’t get you mr own way.

If you want a date night and want to go to the swanky restaurant with your husband, arrange that. No including anyone else. No trying to make it what you want but also a birthday gift for someone else who doesn’t want to go there.

This.

dontfuxkwithroy · 19/11/2024 20:26

TryingAgainAgainAgain · 19/11/2024 15:41

Sorry, your DH "likes to blame me that we don't get invited along to things by his domineering mother / sister (I don't fall into line)"?

That's really awful. Sounds like you were trying to defend yourself against this blame by inviting the ILs, and now get blamed by MN pps for trying.

Your DH has a massive issue with his family, which he is deflecting onto you. Sounds much bigger than this one event.

Yes this is the crux of it. I was trying to include them so dh can't say I don't make effort or whatever he's going to use as an excuse for them being thoughtless and not including him (not fans of our noisy kids either, much earlier to handle the only children of dh's other sibling's)

I feel l didn't word my original post properly. I was clear where the dinner was to take place, if it didn't suit them then we would go out anyway and get a voucher or something as a gift instead

The booking with niece had been arranged in advance by MiL, SIL, SIL2 and child. We had not been invited nor had our children. To me, that was such a snub to my husband (the only other sibling living locally).

Dh txted me to tell me of the arrangement without mentioning this had all been booked in advance. My annoyance was that my plan and preference was set aside (and the it babysitter, we get this opportunity maybe twice a year) to suit their pre-existing plans that they had no intention of including us in

OP posts:
dontfuxkwithroy · 19/11/2024 20:28

Floranan · 19/11/2024 15:55

Sounds like lack of communication to me. Did you make it clear to your husband that you had a babysitter and that meant you could go to somewhere nice for a late meal ?

he should have let you know that they wanted the child to come and eat earlier (it was their birthday)

he shouldn’t have just let that part of it ride, but then I suppose he did tell you the time and place.

anyway, I would have apologised to my babysitters and moved the day back to Friday, gone out just the two of you. Then all of you go to pub type thing the next day. It might have meant you would have to reduce the posh restaurant ideas but at least everyone would have been happy.

Next time!

OP posts:
dontfuxkwithroy · 19/11/2024 20:30

DuckbilledSplatterPuff · 19/11/2024 16:05

I can see why you are annoyed. You offered them one thing, and they all said no we want another.

Your rare and carefree Childfree evening out in elegant resturant, a treat after a very busy time, was changed into something completely different without you even being consulted - wasting a babysitting favour.

And now you are blamed for being awkward and not flexible enough.... which is great seeing as they've arranged everything to suit themselves and not you.

I actually think that second SIL changing dinner to from 8.00 pm to 5.00 pm in child friendly venue was the inflexible one.

Your DH should have said No, we will stick to OP's original plan and meet up with the three of you next weekend. or something.

He can't blame you because he didn't think of that.

Thank you, this is what I'm getting at. Turns out the booking with the child was made far in advance and we hadn't even been asked which annoys me more
Yes, I would have liked dh to have considered my stressful week and the fact I never get a nice evening out and suggested exactly what you said - another time with MIL and SIL

OP posts:
Eenameenadeeka · 19/11/2024 20:32

Your mum offered to babysit so you could have a dinner out with your husband, and you suggested he invite his mother? That's really odd! And if they wanted to do a family meal, you could have taken your own children and had their pub meal, and then used your babysitters for a dinner with your husband. I never have babysitters, but if I did I can't imagine ever inviting my mother in law when I could have dinner alone with my husband. Bizarre.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 19/11/2024 20:32

dontfuxkwithroy · 19/11/2024 17:58

I should clarify a few points. The original invitation was to solve a present buying issue for my husband. I had suggested he buy a voucher. (We did this last year)

I didn't speak to MIL, I let my husband convey the invitation, time, place etc

It turns out that the booking for pub grub had been made by my in laws several weeks ago for MIL, SIL and other SIL visiting with DN to which we had not been invited.

My issue is that DH decided to tack us onto this booking instead of booking us a separate table. They also had Sunday lunch arranged which I suggested he could do with family and have Saturday night dinner with me.

Couldn't you have gone to Saturday night with DC or just sent DH and still had a Friday child free date?
Edited because I've just seen your other posts. That sounds tough OP and I'd be upset too that they left DH out of original plans. It sounds like he takes any opportunity to be included that he can. It's an expensive lesson since you won't have a babysitter again for a while, but I wouldn't be trying to include then again.

Sunnings · 19/11/2024 20:42

Men like your husband are so unattractive.
Ditch my wife for a family that don't include us.
3 children is a lot with a man like that.
Mind yourself, he doesn't sound great.

dontfuxkwithroy · 19/11/2024 20:43

Yes you have hit the nail on the head. He's so desperate to be included he will drop our plans and it's a long standing issue.

I tried to help him with this by including his family in our plans. Not romantic, no but I knew he would like this.

A waste of a babysitter and nice evening. No matter how I frame an invitation it will always be twisted to suit them and not me.
Definitely never again.

OP posts:
Sunnings · 19/11/2024 20:48

At least you know where you stand.
Not a man to ever depend on.

dontfuxkwithroy · 19/11/2024 20:49

Gymnopedie · 19/11/2024 17:34

There is a difference between 'We're going out for dinner on Friday. As it's your birthdays at the weekend why don't you join us?' and 'Let's go out for a meal to celebrate your birthdays'.

The OP meant the former, which was good of her given how the MIL and SIL have treated her and was probably a misguided attempt to show them that she isn't the Wicked Witch of the West they believe her to be. An olive branch. However the DH, in thrall to his family, immediately turned it into the second.
That may have been miscommunication or the DH may immediately thought of what his family would like without considering the OP.

Maybe in this instance it wasn't done maliciously. But I'd always be wary of a man who always puts his birth family above his wife.

Exactly this

OP posts:
dontfuxkwithroy · 19/11/2024 20:58

Sunnings · 19/11/2024 20:42

Men like your husband are so unattractive.
Ditch my wife for a family that don't include us.
3 children is a lot with a man like that.
Mind yourself, he doesn't sound great.

Yes this is true. He has blind loyalty to them I don't understand it. So desperate for attention. The overlooked middle child.
It's an issue in our marriage and I try to keep his family at arms length ( though we live very close to them). The SIL in particular is a bully.

OP posts:
elizzza · 19/11/2024 21:08

YABU if you haven’t spoken to him since Saturday, whatever the details of how the booking came about. Imagine reading a post where a woman said her spouse had given her the silent treatment for over three days because they hadn’t wanted her to go out for dinner.

stayathomer · 19/11/2024 21:09

After a stressful week nothing good ever comes from anything other than feet up at home (preferably alone!!). It was your mils birthday, hopefully she had a good time, make sure you and dh get a bit of time together this week instead x

KeenCat · 19/11/2024 21:20

This stopped being 'date night' when you invited your MIL and SIL.

You've both confused things here, see it as a lesson learnt for the next time a babysitting opportunity comes up (i.e. don't invite your family along).

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