Should we be worried about war

[Seasidesand76]

Seen a lot in the news about Ukraine using USA missiles against Russia. I've been thinking more along the lines that it won't start a WW3 and will resolve at some point without the UK getting directly involved in war. But there seems to be more and more tension and threats of an all out war recently.

Should we be worried about WW3? I haven't been prepping or anything but does make me wonder if I should start getting a few days worth of food in case. At the same time I don't want to go down the prepper hole and start getting over the top.

The UK could do a lot more to encourage growing fruit trees and berries. Very reliant on imports. We have a lot (live in the country) and prioritised these over ornamental plants. Organic berries all summer long, then organic fruit. A real luxury, even if they are never needed in an emergency, and good for the environment as they support wild bees.

I'm not much a vodka drinker but I wonder if I should get a few extra bottles just in case. I do like a good Bloody Mary from time to time.

Not read full thread but always thought Putin would be an aggressor (as turned out to be the case with Ukraine) if the UK decided to vote for Brexit. Economists did predict we'd move closer to a more global war situation if that was to happen.

Nordic countries joining NATO is significant as there has always been a very strong feeling of wanting to remain neutral, at least in Sweden.

Several countries in the Nordics have just recently been sent or are being sent information about how to prep for a potential war. Started happening during the Cold War. This is something that happens regularly though I think in Sweden, the last leaflet went out 5-6 years ago.

I don't think we will see nuclear war, what's the point?

More likely might be power outages etc in the first instance and it probably is worth having some basic provisions e.g. water and tinned food to last a few days.

History teaches us that all civilisations end. It would be breathtakingly arrogant for us to believe that it won’t happen to ours. We are actually long over due. Even if the end doesn’t happen in our lifetimes we are definitely on borrowed time.

If there was a war it would be over in seconds and no survivors. There is literally nothing to worry about.

Not read full thread but always thought Putin would be an aggressor (as turned out to be the case with Ukraine) if the UK decided to vote for Brexit.

I always thought this too.

This is too funny, you are saying this is down to my comprehension of what you wrote, but all your complaints are based on you failing to comprehend what I wrote.

‘my fault’ for specifying

• direct attack, or attack directly in my first post - there is no need to post what I am NOT talking about which is indirect attacks that have been going on for years because I am not worried about them and also because the OP was about WW3 worry which naturally excludes indirect attacks and proxy wars. Which for some reason you think is vitally important.

• My “I did actually” continued on to say I did actually mention I was talking about DIRECT attacks which you can see from the parts I quoted from my earlier post. It wasn’t a random claim I had mentioned indirect attacks, it was also a direct response to you saying I didn’t specify direct attacks.

Honestly. It’s not my fault as you took issue with my first post based on misreading it and then every interaction have changed what you claim you think I said (but hadn’t ) and are now objecting too. Anyway this is a derail. Have a nice night.

Well of course there could be war without using nuclear. Cyberwar, drones, long-distance missiles (not nuclear)...

How the hell would someone 'prep' for WW3, which would inevitably be a nuclear war?

There's only one thing I would hate more than to DIE in a nuclear explosion. And that's to SURVIVE it.

@SummerFeverVenice not the same situation though - what would be the point of the USSR using a NW at the point in collapsed? We're taking about hot conventional war not Cold War

Putin didn’t invade Ukraine because of bloody Brexit! He invaded Ukraine because he calculated Europe and the US would not react robustly as he had annexed Crimea without as much as a raised eyebrow,

It was supposed to be a lightening invasion with Kiev in the bag within 24 hours: it’s a damn shame they underestimated UK/US intelligence.

The Russians banked on Germany’s dependency to stall any EU reaction - which although short lived they were correct to deduct France and Germany’s reluctance, but overall all of the west united wifh NATO and strengthened Ukraine from the inside out.

As important as you might think Brexit is 🙄 it really isn’t something Putin cares about!

I think you are banking on everyone backing away from nuclear, and there is nothing in the human psyche to suggest that would happen.

This ^^

@Outoftheways I have no car, never have..and I'm too disabled to help the war. Plus I have absolutely no money.
But even if I was able mind or bodied, I'd just have to commit suicide I guess. Rather than fight or kill strangers. I don't think there's much point in thinking about it though as it's just unnecessarily upsetting.

You will not be asked to do any such thing. It’s not going to happen that’s why.

Remember when Victoria Nuland admitted the USA has got biolabs in Ukraine…
Google what was happening in Ukraine in 2014.
Imagine if none of what you’re seeing in the mainstream media is real.
It’s not - you’ve been watching a movie for over 4 years 🍿🍿🍿

It’s NATO I’m concerned about, particularly this awful decision of Biden to escalate things just as his tenure comes to an end.

You're concerned about an organisation that is designed to keep the peace? How can you allow your brain to be twisted by these conspiracy theories?

It's only your fault that your first post was so bad, and that you doubled down on poor arguments thereafter.

You failed to show any understanding at all of the reality that Russia has been attacking the UK for some time now, and that lack of understanding is crucial to the topic at hand. To that end, you've been reduced to pretending that words have different meanings.

Power outages, utility bills going through the roof so only the rich can afford to heat their homes; the cost of food skyrocketing, especially the price of meat; riots; Somebody else being shoved on Strictly; Political incompetence; the 1% paying Gen Z to stay at home with 'PTSD'; Instagram being taken over by cat influencers exploiting their pussy; the white noise of 'war' that we'll all get used to... A whole new range of alphabet diseases for humans to subscribe to: ADHD, PTSD, XYZ, EDF, MGM, BPD, PMT, BMW, TNT, BBC3, etc.

Putin made the cheapest and best investment in funding the small right wing parties of Europe. Including UKIP.

So neighbours or friends would here be expected to help you out. You are right in not letting it upset you.

Good try but everything we watch today is filmed first hand with collaborating footage from those also in the vicinity given eveyone has a phone and camera these days, and we don’t have to rely on news channels anymore unlike those countries that do not have access to the WWW…. Nor other channels featuring alternative views. Like Russia and China that use news for propaganda.

Btw in regards to actual risk of nukes, I personally think that Putin would have used them by now if he was going to. I may be wrong, I may be an optimist. But there have been times where the world was more at risk. Even the 80s were scarier.

Agree with this. I have to say I'm almost pleased that Trump will be more cautious with Putin. I'm not sure arming Ukraine is the answer anyway. More cannon fodder of young soldiers on either side.

Well you describing Russia for the last ten years. You missed off alcohol addictions…

Having the supplies and skills to get by for 72 hours is a good baby step to build resilience in the population. Ideally with the aim of building to one week, and onwards. For several reasons, the third not being widely appreciated.

If it's a temporary weather-related disruption to food or utilities, it gives time for the problem to be resolved.

If it is the start of something bigger, it gives the govt crisis teams time to assemble and assess and start rolling out contingency plans.

In a rapidly deteriorating situation, if you have the ability to hunker down with your loved ones at home for a few days, without rushing around trying to find food or fuel or medicine, then you will be safer.

We know this from accounts of those who've lived through war (and current news reports). In any disaster or war zone, life is most dangerous when things are in flux. Soon, a still-horrific new 'normality' will establish itself for a while, and things become, not safe, but more known. Life adapts. For a while. Until the next flux point. Having to be out on the streets in search of supplies or help when things are at their most unpredictable is extremely high risk.