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Have people forgotten about covid and what's really important?

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Beautifulweeds · 16/11/2024 23:04

Just this really.

Covid...working or non working parents had to have online teaching at home (for working so much more difficult). Teachers had to do these lessons online while supervising their own kids being taught online.
It showed how many parents found it difficult teaching their own and so sad some suicides of single parents having no escape.

Supermarkets...
In fear of covid but worked through, online delivery went through the roof, all working. A close relative with parent on chemo hadn't got the official document through so had to keep working and go home to a highly vulnerable person. Took several weeks to sort, otherwise woukd have lost job if refused to go in.

NHS, I remember the days just before it was announced and A and E staff having a more than full waiting room of coughing before mandatory mask wearing.

The impact...stay at home, if you could. Celebrities showing off, non essential things like false eyelashes, fake nails, any form of plastic surgery etc stopped.

The world realised what was important. Now it has too easily gone back to the superficiality it was before and people complaining about everything.

Thank you for reading my long post, just needed to put it out there.

I, for one, as a frontline worker and human being, am so disappointed at how so many people have gone back to being so rude and entitled, when they were relying on us at thay time to help them live. X

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Ytcsghisn · 17/11/2024 10:39

What’s your point? What virtues do you remember from the time of Covid that don’t exist now?

dreamer24 · 17/11/2024 10:39

Illaria4 · 17/11/2024 10:25

I remember being shouted at for putting 4 tins of beans in my trolley at Tesco. Some completely random old woman telling me I’m selfish. She carried on and on until I put 3 of them back. I was 34 weeks pregnant with 3 young children at home. Every time I bought food I would get filthy looks because with a big family we obviously needed more. I think I prefer being able to buy whatever I like these days without being shouted at.

Wow, she sounds completely unhinged. I would absolutely have not been putting my shopping back on the demand of a total stranger, I'd have ignored and walked on.

Livelovebehappy · 17/11/2024 10:40

I think people are pretty fed up of services still using Covid as an excuse for crap service. Face to face GP appointments are like hens teeth at my surgery, because the NHS decided that they quite liked just doing telephone appointments rather that actually seeing patients in the surgery, something they did during Covid. Getting through on the phone to any company is tedious,with still some phone messages saying ‘please bear with us during this difficult time’. NHS still say that the problems they have across the board are an after affect of Covid. Rubbish in the majority of cases.

Iheartmysmart · 17/11/2024 10:41

It’s probably quite important not to post a load of self indulgent twaddle guaranteed to invoke some pretty awful memories for some people and cause a whole heap of arguments then bugger off.

GreenWheat · 17/11/2024 10:41

Yes, covid showed people what's important - it's all the things we couldn't do during the pandemic. That's why they've resumed.

Animatron · 17/11/2024 10:44

You know I never saw any of this in real life, not once! None of my neighbours shouted at me, the police didn't arrest anyone for going for a walk. We had a weekly socially distanced open air gig in the street and the police joined in.

I only saw it in the media and on here. In our real life in our real town, everyone was pretty decent and practical. So I'm always wary of how these stories come to represent the majority. I think probably it's really a very low number of crackports, reported and reshared on social media over and over until it feels like that was happening everywhere.

I'm not saying it never happened, but was it the norm? I don't think so.

lollypopsforme · 17/11/2024 10:44

I loved lock down tbh but the whole covid thing did take the piss.
The clapping the masks rainbows everywhere captain tom etc.
However i think i broke every rule during lock down.

RosesAndHellebores · 17/11/2024 10:44

I have always said we should have protected our vulnerable, as in Sweden, but should not have locked down to the extent we did. I was slaughtered on here for saying it.

I could never stack what we were being told with the raw data. In overall terms miniscule numbers of healthy people died because of covid. Many people who would have died I any event, died with covid and were included in the figures.

Nursing home and hospital visiting should not have stopped.
Hospital appointments shoukd not have stopped
GPs should have stayed properly open
Schools and universities should not have stopped
The economy should not have stopped
Parks should not have been closed

One thing I found extraordinary was that at my local supermarket, if the number of people affected was as high as intimated in the press, then the same people at the till would have been unilaterally affected. They weren't.

Some good things:
Hybrid working and the implementation of teams/zoom (I will never know how I got my team working remotely literally overnight but I have never worked so hard in my life). DH continued to work and draw his salary but his principle role was put on hold.
For a brief period, the silence (no planes, no car noise) and the birdsong
I actually think that being able to sort out GP stuff on-line and on zoom is helpful but there needs to be more flexibility for the elderly and those who can't use tech.

Some bad things
Impact on child development
Impact on escalating domestic abuse
Impact on MH of the vulnerable
Difficulty getting some people back to work
Decimation of the high Street
We will pay for it for years
Having locked down for the NHS they didn't lock out for us nearly quickly enough

Lockdown for us was relatively OK despite both DC having to come back from Uni (DD's uni experience socially was very blighted, DS's not so much because he was PG). But it was only OK because we have a spacious house, everyone had their own desk/study space, the garden is large and we have leisure stuff available. If we had had under 8s in a two bed flat 20 floors up it would have been utterly horrendous.

It must never be allowed to happen again.

DyslexicPoster · 17/11/2024 10:46

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Well I'm.an environmentalist and a human so my drive to pass on my dna is strong. I like people. I just don't like us overall as a species. If you look at nice things in say Norway put you pan out to the bigger picture there's more overall war and violence than communities living in harmony with the environment. I'm darwinist. We can't keep on like this for then 2000 years. But I don't belive in God and I don't belive anyone comes back so I'm going to have my kids, pass on my dna and not kill anyone with intent until I return to my atoms. I don't pretend to perfect but I don't like mass war and for that we're a sad lot. No other species does war.

yoghurt05 · 17/11/2024 10:49

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IamChocLover · 17/11/2024 10:51

It was crap for everyone - some more than others, but universally crap.

Hiddle1976 · 17/11/2024 10:51

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 16/11/2024 23:12

Thing that annoys me the most is people calling themselves'frontline' workers. Calm down love, you're not exactly in the trenches, about to go over the top.

Why are you annoyed by that. There are some people who couldn't stay safe at home. So they felt unsafe.

yoghurt05 · 17/11/2024 10:52

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JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · 17/11/2024 10:52

It was an awful time. I didn't get furloughed, the company I worked for just made us all redundant.

There were no jobs to even apply for. Everything was shut. I managed to get a job in a supermarket after a few months. I had to leave my primary aged child home alone as there was no school and as the newest person in the job I had the worst/no choice in shifts.

The general public were pretty awful. Rude. Greedy. I saw it all.

I finally got a new full time job in 2021. But it's taken me a long time to get over what happened. Both emotionally and financially. So many people have been deeply impacted by Covid. Not least the people who worked through it and had no choice but to put themselves at risk.

jeaux90 · 17/11/2024 10:54

Covid was shit for me. I want to forget it all like a bad dream.

Jennysi · 17/11/2024 11:08

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DyslexicPoster · 17/11/2024 10:46

Well I'm.an environmentalist and a human so my drive to pass on my dna is strong. I like people. I just don't like us overall as a species. If you look at nice things in say Norway put you pan out to the bigger picture there's more overall war and violence than communities living in harmony with the environment. I'm darwinist. We can't keep on like this for then 2000 years. But I don't belive in God and I don't belive anyone comes back so I'm going to have my kids, pass on my dna and not kill anyone with intent until I return to my atoms. I don't pretend to perfect but I don't like mass war and for that we're a sad lot. No other species does war.

I think you might be missing the point that the PP was making (unless I am), they were suggesting (and I think you’ve reinforced it here) that your nihilistic view of the world is probably having more of an impact on your child than Covid did.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 17/11/2024 11:17

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Why? It's true. It's not the fault of any worker that they were suddenly lauded with this nonsensical nomenclature plonked onto them but it was a sop and it was quickly adopted by commerce wanting to keep their workers working.

The blue-light workers (as they were coined) were working yet able to achieve discounts that other workers (also working) were not. That was an error and it was damaging. Elevating any group is a folly.

Nobody is more important than anyone else. Nobody. It's a shame that the government themselves don't realise that for their own cohort but we are where we are.

PinkiOcelot · 17/11/2024 11:18

SnoopysHoose · 17/11/2024 00:47

The frontline thing was very overdone, all the freebies and discounts when they were amongst the few still on a full salary. Not very HCP was in covid wards, plenty doing bugger all in empty departments..

I would have liked to have been sat at home on 80% of my salary for doing fuck all.

timenowplease · 17/11/2024 11:24

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If you work in a hospital in Ireland then fuck you right back.

At the height of it when the Irish Government were frightening the shit out of people with covid hospital statistics I had the misfortune to end up in St. Vincent's Covid ICU with my mother. The place was a ghost town. There was one other patient there aside from my mother. Empty rooms all around with staff chit chatting in the corridor all night and reading books.

And don't get me started about Loughlinstown. She nearly died there several times- from lack of care.

Shame on you.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 17/11/2024 11:25

dreamer24 · 17/11/2024 10:39

Wow, she sounds completely unhinged. I would absolutely have not been putting my shopping back on the demand of a total stranger, I'd have ignored and walked on.

Same, but I wasn't pregnant during the pandemic and you do feel more vulnerable. One wonders if the lady was behaving that way towards people who she thought might respond aggressively. Some people were much easier targets than others.

PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 17/11/2024 11:28

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 17/11/2024 10:16

It became immediately apparent which jobs are actually important. People who produce food

The Labour Party wouldn't agree there.

Sorry, but I don't agree about which jobs are important if we want to return to our pre 2016 lifestyles. Well actually, of course I agree that the jobs you mentioned are mainly very important, but there are also a lot more very necessary jobs etc, if we want to maintain at least our present lifestyles, or possibly improve on them.

For a start the transport infrastructure needs to be working well for both the NHS (or any type of medical or trauma health care) to take place, and of course most of the staff to enable it to do so. Yes, those of us with enough land could probably grow enough fruit and vegetables to keep us and our smallish families fed. However, that would take a long time to actually get established, and there are a vast number of people just here in the UK who couldn't grow their own vegetables for various reasons.

I have only mentioned the tip of a very deep iceberg. We would still need educaters, water and sewage pipes manufactured, lain, and set up for their usage. All the facets involved in being able to use electricity. Other forms of heating our homes, and actually having enough homes to house every one of us. The list of very important, necessary jobs and produce just keeps on expanding, it would have probably been quicker to mention what we don't need...

LoneStar7 · 17/11/2024 11:29

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This. My daughter was the same age. She looks back at Covid lockdown as a happy time (I don’t, but that’s a different story) and honestly I don’t think it’s really affected her at all.

i thank my lucky stars that she was the age she was, to be honest. I can see that it would be far harder for older kids, sitting exams etc.

ShamblesRock · 17/11/2024 12:52

PinkiOcelot · 17/11/2024 11:18

I would have liked to have been sat at home on 80% of my salary for doing fuck all.

And the vast majority of people weren't.

DragonGypsyDoris · 17/11/2024 12:56

"when they were relying on us at thay time to help them live."
That's a sweeping statement.