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Have people forgotten about covid and what's really important?

281 replies

Beautifulweeds · 16/11/2024 23:04

Just this really.

Covid...working or non working parents had to have online teaching at home (for working so much more difficult). Teachers had to do these lessons online while supervising their own kids being taught online.
It showed how many parents found it difficult teaching their own and so sad some suicides of single parents having no escape.

Supermarkets...
In fear of covid but worked through, online delivery went through the roof, all working. A close relative with parent on chemo hadn't got the official document through so had to keep working and go home to a highly vulnerable person. Took several weeks to sort, otherwise woukd have lost job if refused to go in.

NHS, I remember the days just before it was announced and A and E staff having a more than full waiting room of coughing before mandatory mask wearing.

The impact...stay at home, if you could. Celebrities showing off, non essential things like false eyelashes, fake nails, any form of plastic surgery etc stopped.

The world realised what was important. Now it has too easily gone back to the superficiality it was before and people complaining about everything.

Thank you for reading my long post, just needed to put it out there.

I, for one, as a frontline worker and human being, am so disappointed at how so many people have gone back to being so rude and entitled, when they were relying on us at thay time to help them live. X

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ShamblesRock · 17/11/2024 20:28

Pixiedust88 · 17/11/2024 20:22

Some people were still dicks during Covid. I promised a man in a shop that he’d find out what would happen if he didn’t step back from me. He was so close he was practically touching me. He said he was ok as he was wearing a mask and I told him I didn’t care if he was wearing a f*cking hazmat suit if he didn’t step back I’d make him. People still had no sense of personal space never mind social distancing and it’s gone back to how it was before Covid like it never happened. It really gets on my nerves as I had issues with people being too close to me even before Covid so now I tend to stand in a queue with the pushchair behind me with the baby facing me and me facing him so they can’t get too close. I’m not averse to treading on toes or elbowing hard “accidentally” if people still get to close

Yeah, some people were dicks during and still are after. 🫤

Filamumof9 · 17/11/2024 21:10

Where I lived, we had full lockdowns for months, not being allowed to go outside the house, except on designated days for essential shopping only. Everything else was closed so nowhere to go anywhere. As I live secluded, I did not notice too much about it, except for wfh and educating child from home. However, school had set up perfectly, so DC benefited from a quieter surrounding. As we live on an island, we only have 1 hospital and that was reaching its capacity very soon, as capacity was always very limited (think about max 30 persons in the ICU ) so people mostly knew anyone affected by it and hence were more lenient to follow the lock downs. Air travel mostly stopped as well. If I look back at it and compare it with now, most people have been trying to make up for lost time it seems. For my family we actually have stepped a bit away from all obligations in comparison to previously.

NannaKaren · 17/11/2024 21:43

Attelina · 16/11/2024 23:08

It was mostly all nonsense and lies.

What the actual f?

Tigger1895 · 17/11/2024 21:50

EmeraldRoulette · 16/11/2024 23:13

I'm not sure what your point is either.

I wanted the world to go back to the way it was before Covid and I'm really struggling with the fact that it won't. It seems like all the really appalling qualities people showed during Covid are here to stay.

Or in some cases people have quietly become very strange, more due to lockdown, and that has seeped into all areas. I blame lockdowns much more than Covid.

but pre Covid, I was annoyed by lack of handwashing and now that seems to be the one thing that didn't stick! Ffs.

Edited

I disliked the way people couldn’t be arsed to cover their mouths when they cough pre Covid. After a year of coughing ethic being rammed down our throats, you’d think they have got the message and do it now

Oniya · 17/11/2024 21:56

Types. Goads. And Leaves.

JWKD · 17/11/2024 21:56

EmeraldRoulette · 16/11/2024 23:44

@TempestTost whhyyy though

mum was saying that the run on soap made her wonder if people didn't wash their hands before, but I wondered if people like me, always rigorous hand washers, had stocked up madly on it!!!

Did the run on toilet paper suggest they hadn't been using that previously either? 🤣🤣🤣

CrowleyKitten · 17/11/2024 22:14

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 17/11/2024 08:06

When I see the word 'sheep' in discussions about covid, it makes me switch off. Same with selfish and clot shot.

"Big Pharma" and "Sheeple" are instant, I don't have to listen to this person indicators

CrowleyKitten · 18/11/2024 01:33

timenowplease · 17/11/2024 10:32

the post viral fatigue was something that wiped us out

The acknowledgement of post viral fatigue being a thing is probably one of the best things to come out of it.

I've suffered from PVF since I got glandular fever when I was 15. It's good it's taken more seriously now.

I had flu a couple of years before covid happened. all I can say is that it's a BLOODY good thing I don't drive because I was randomly falling asleep. not as bad as narcolepsy, but not far off it. I fell asleep during mat work during several yoga classes, or dozed off as a passenger in the car a LOT. or watching TV, mid conversation, my husband would realise I'd fallen asleep again.
and that went on for about six months after I recovered from flu.
the comparison that "it's no worse than flu" really wasn;t reassuring, as Flu hit me like a freight train.

CrowleyKitten · 18/11/2024 01:45

Livelovebehappy · 17/11/2024 10:40

I think people are pretty fed up of services still using Covid as an excuse for crap service. Face to face GP appointments are like hens teeth at my surgery, because the NHS decided that they quite liked just doing telephone appointments rather that actually seeing patients in the surgery, something they did during Covid. Getting through on the phone to any company is tedious,with still some phone messages saying ‘please bear with us during this difficult time’. NHS still say that the problems they have across the board are an after affect of Covid. Rubbish in the majority of cases.

I FINALLY got diagnosed with a medical issue thanks to covid.

I'm about a size 16, to 18, so, chubby, but not so fat I should be in constant pain.
I've been raising with my doctors for YEARS that I have really bad joint and muscle pain and fatigue. and for years, they've told me it's because I'm overweight, and if I lose weight, it will miraculously go away.
well, during lockdown I had a PHONE consultation about it, after a particularly bad day when I thought I was going to throw up because my back seized up so badly.
without my chubby self sat there in the surgery in front of them, the doctor actually LISTENED to me, said I was too young for that to be normal wear and tear, and "it's a long shot, but come in for a blood test, those are all symptoms of vitamin D Deficiency"

it turns out, I had one of the lowest levels the nurse had ever seen, when I was called back in to discuss the results. low enough that they think my body just doesn't process it properly.

so I got put on a MASSIVE dose for a few months, and then a daily RDI dose as an ongoing thing.
I still get aches and pains, but only the occasional day where I feel like I'm going to throw up from the pain. it took NOT being seen for my pain to not be dismissed as Diagnosis: FATTY FATTY BOOM BOOM

OldMam · 18/11/2024 05:21

Covid is a mass disabling virus which still with us and evolving. It is not something to speak of as if it’s all over.(A bird flu epidemic is quite possibly on its way, too. Once there is human to human transmission we’re in trouble). So keep up that distancing. It’s basic good manners anyway.

Llhaaf · 18/11/2024 05:50

I feel like Covid was one big con. Either that or an over reaction. We shut down and ruined people’s lives, ruined kids education and exacerbated mental health problems in the UK. We have been left with inflation, high interest rates and an overall lower quality of life.

I am not grateful to anyone who supported this course of action or who contributed to the message ‘stay home stay safe’.

florizel13 · 18/11/2024 05:56

Attelina · 16/11/2024 23:08

It was mostly all nonsense and lies.

I was redeployed to a covid ward during the pandemic, I can assure you it wasn't.

CamelTail · 18/11/2024 06:02

CrowleyKitten · 18/11/2024 01:45

I FINALLY got diagnosed with a medical issue thanks to covid.

I'm about a size 16, to 18, so, chubby, but not so fat I should be in constant pain.
I've been raising with my doctors for YEARS that I have really bad joint and muscle pain and fatigue. and for years, they've told me it's because I'm overweight, and if I lose weight, it will miraculously go away.
well, during lockdown I had a PHONE consultation about it, after a particularly bad day when I thought I was going to throw up because my back seized up so badly.
without my chubby self sat there in the surgery in front of them, the doctor actually LISTENED to me, said I was too young for that to be normal wear and tear, and "it's a long shot, but come in for a blood test, those are all symptoms of vitamin D Deficiency"

it turns out, I had one of the lowest levels the nurse had ever seen, when I was called back in to discuss the results. low enough that they think my body just doesn't process it properly.

so I got put on a MASSIVE dose for a few months, and then a daily RDI dose as an ongoing thing.
I still get aches and pains, but only the occasional day where I feel like I'm going to throw up from the pain. it took NOT being seen for my pain to not be dismissed as Diagnosis: FATTY FATTY BOOM BOOM

There was a theory that vit D helped not catching covid. I only got covid this year. Luckily I had good GP just before pandemic who realised all my physical symptoms and mental including depression, suicidal thoughts and anxiety attacks may have been caused by something (and not the obesity at the time) so did full blood panel. Same like you. Super high dose and topping up regularly so it wouldn't dip. I also lost weight because I got energy and determination back.
I still wonder if my religious taking of it helped me and DH to steer clear of it.

I am very vocal that anyone presenting with mental health issues should also have automatically full blood panel done. I always know when to up the dose a bit. When I get anxiety in a lift or car feeling like in a Final Destination....

Thepurplepig · 18/11/2024 06:03

florizel13 · 18/11/2024 05:56

I was redeployed to a covid ward during the pandemic, I can assure you it wasn't.

It really was. Apart from the elderly most of us would have got by with a sniffle. It destroyed thousands of lives and businesses through ridiculous lockdowns. Thankfully the public will never fall for it again and those that never took the vaccines haven’t mysteriously developed the health conditions people that did have

Thepurplepig · 18/11/2024 06:14

I’m sorry at a size 16 you are fat, bordering obese and putting yourself at serious risk of long lasting health conditions.

We have a very distorted view of what is healthy weight these days.

Firethehorse · 18/11/2024 06:24

I believe Covid has made society worse not better. We appear to be generally a little more selfish and isolationist if anything.
Personally, I feel a massive debt to doctors & NHS, still grateful to frontline workers, but not in the same way.

SnoopysHoose · 18/11/2024 06:25

@Thepurplepig
I agree with you, this from @CrowleyKitten
they've told me it's because I'm overweight, and if I lose weight, it will miraculously go away.
losing weight will help joint and back pain, size 18 isn't chubby it's quite overweight, sadly covid is used for an excuse for many health problems.

timenowplease · 18/11/2024 06:50

CamelTail · 18/11/2024 06:02

There was a theory that vit D helped not catching covid. I only got covid this year. Luckily I had good GP just before pandemic who realised all my physical symptoms and mental including depression, suicidal thoughts and anxiety attacks may have been caused by something (and not the obesity at the time) so did full blood panel. Same like you. Super high dose and topping up regularly so it wouldn't dip. I also lost weight because I got energy and determination back.
I still wonder if my religious taking of it helped me and DH to steer clear of it.

I am very vocal that anyone presenting with mental health issues should also have automatically full blood panel done. I always know when to up the dose a bit. When I get anxiety in a lift or car feeling like in a Final Destination....

It's not a theory, it's a fact. Vit D, or should I say lack of Vit D is why people catch colds and flus in winter time. It's because their natural levels of Vit D are low.

Generally speaking, mostly everyone in the country has sub-optimal Vit D levels.

scalt · 18/11/2024 08:00

LoneStar7 · 17/11/2024 09:31

What I found the most interesting about Partygate was the lack of fear by those in charge.

Why were they confident enough to break the rules and get together when their whole MO was to terrify the population into complying? I thought Boris was in intensive care due to Covid. Why didn’t he fear it?

Why didn't Boris fear it? Several possible reasons:

  • Like many prime ministers do, he especially, he thought he was God, and invincible.
  • He wasn't actually in intensive care, that was all for show, to frighten the public; I think that is very possible. There are theories (far less possible, I expect, but they're a nice idea) that because he was reluctant to enforce the covid and lockdown narrative, his own government heavy mob took him aside during his "intensive care", and had a not-so-quiet word in his ear, saying "you will enforce lockdown, whether you want to, or not". Perhaps they added as an afterthought, seeing his sad face, "but you can have parties, no one will know, we will cover up for you".
Ewock · 18/11/2024 08:00

Thepurplepig · 18/11/2024 06:03

It really was. Apart from the elderly most of us would have got by with a sniffle. It destroyed thousands of lives and businesses through ridiculous lockdowns. Thankfully the public will never fall for it again and those that never took the vaccines haven’t mysteriously developed the health conditions people that did have

What about all the younger people who dies and have been left with life changing effects

Plastictrees · 18/11/2024 08:23

Thepurplepig · 18/11/2024 06:14

I’m sorry at a size 16 you are fat, bordering obese and putting yourself at serious risk of long lasting health conditions.

We have a very distorted view of what is healthy weight these days.

What a horrible and unnecessary post. And wrong. It is absolutely very possible to be a size 16 and healthy. A person’s clothes size isn’t a good indicator of someone’s overall health.

Then again, you think covid is ‘just a sniffle’ which gives me a good insight into your level of intelligence. It was not just the elderly who were affected; what about those with underlying health conditions, disabilities, babies, certain BME groups? Not to mention the amount of ‘healthy’ people who have been unwell for months since having Covid, long covid has now been recognised and is so prevalent that specialist services have been funded throughout the UK. But you can continue in your ignorance and being wilfully blind.

This thread has been taken over by Tory individualistic, selfish mentalities which is depressing and dull. I’m out.

SpiffingOldBean · 18/11/2024 08:33

I don't think covid had much to do with positive values in society. People didn't somehow become more respectful or nicer because of a virus. People sometimes was rhapsodically about WW2 and the Blitz spirit, but I think that's missing the point a bit. There was a stronger sense of community in the 1940s, a sense of the individual being part of things. Society is now much more fragmented, much more polarised, we are more suspicious of one another. Generally speaking, that is. I think it's also easier to forget that even within that culture there were pisstakers too, black market spice etc.

Motomum23 · 18/11/2024 08:47

Hmm I think you have rose tinted glasses - people who were 'key workers' weren't treated better or more valued - they had to work whilst others got a paid holiday. That holiday we will be paying for for generations BTW - even if you did work through it.
The vast majority of rules have been proven to be pointless now too. Ol
Oh and we used up a year's supply of an end of life drug in 3 months so we effectively culled our elderly as well.

Livelovebehappy · 18/11/2024 09:32

Llhaaf · 18/11/2024 05:50

I feel like Covid was one big con. Either that or an over reaction. We shut down and ruined people’s lives, ruined kids education and exacerbated mental health problems in the UK. We have been left with inflation, high interest rates and an overall lower quality of life.

I am not grateful to anyone who supported this course of action or who contributed to the message ‘stay home stay safe’.

It wasn't a con. Lots of people are atill suffering from the after effects of having had it. Millions died, many more have long covid. I still have no taste or smell 4 years after having had it. It was real, and all too easy for those not affected to trivialise it.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 18/11/2024 09:41

Llhaaf · 18/11/2024 05:50

I feel like Covid was one big con. Either that or an over reaction. We shut down and ruined people’s lives, ruined kids education and exacerbated mental health problems in the UK. We have been left with inflation, high interest rates and an overall lower quality of life.

I am not grateful to anyone who supported this course of action or who contributed to the message ‘stay home stay safe’.

I don’t think it was a con, but we didn’t act soon enough which meant we then overreacted when we did.

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