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Have people forgotten about covid and what's really important?

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Beautifulweeds · 16/11/2024 23:04

Just this really.

Covid...working or non working parents had to have online teaching at home (for working so much more difficult). Teachers had to do these lessons online while supervising their own kids being taught online.
It showed how many parents found it difficult teaching their own and so sad some suicides of single parents having no escape.

Supermarkets...
In fear of covid but worked through, online delivery went through the roof, all working. A close relative with parent on chemo hadn't got the official document through so had to keep working and go home to a highly vulnerable person. Took several weeks to sort, otherwise woukd have lost job if refused to go in.

NHS, I remember the days just before it was announced and A and E staff having a more than full waiting room of coughing before mandatory mask wearing.

The impact...stay at home, if you could. Celebrities showing off, non essential things like false eyelashes, fake nails, any form of plastic surgery etc stopped.

The world realised what was important. Now it has too easily gone back to the superficiality it was before and people complaining about everything.

Thank you for reading my long post, just needed to put it out there.

I, for one, as a frontline worker and human being, am so disappointed at how so many people have gone back to being so rude and entitled, when they were relying on us at thay time to help them live. X

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Onelifeonly · 17/11/2024 09:56

I think things have changed a lot since covid. Some of that is due to advancing technology, economic issues and Brexit so it's hard to judge exactly what are the actual effects caused by covid. But it definitely impacted mental health and child development. I think people have in general become more inward looking and more belligerent in their defence of their own - there has been a huge rise in parental complaints in schools, for example. On the plus side, for me anyway, the introduction of zoom meetings over always having to travel, has been a success in terms of time saved. And I like that so much more can be booked and arranged online.

As for hand washing - it did change my habits! I used to not care much as I never got stomach bugs and hated having my skin dry out - now I wash my hands a lot.

ShamblesRock · 17/11/2024 09:57

It still annoys me, as this post clearly shows, that there was an overwhelming narrative that if you weren't working for the NHS or in a supermarket you were sat at home on furlough making banana bread. Only 25% of the workforce was furloughed at some point, the majority were trying to do their jobs from home including supporting vulnerable people.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/articles/anoverviewofworkerswhowerefurloughedintheuk/october2021

An overview of workers who were furloughed in the UK - Office for National Statistics

Characteristics of those who have been furloughed in the UK and how the furlough scheme has affected labour market outcomes and skills.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/articles/anoverviewofworkerswhowerefurloughedintheuk/october2021

yoghurt05 · 17/11/2024 09:57

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TheBigSalami · 17/11/2024 10:01

Not sure what you’re asking, OP?

Many people were complete dicks during the pandemic. The curtain twitchers policing others, the selfish hoarders stockpiling loo rolls…I think some relished the restrictions.

I'm definitely glad to have consigned it to a mostly bad memory.

Haroldwilson · 17/11/2024 10:02

ILikeItWhatIsIt · 16/11/2024 23:12

Thing that annoys me the most is people calling themselves'frontline' workers. Calm down love, you're not exactly in the trenches, about to go over the top.

Well. They were going out risking their lives when other people were at home.

Granted, not getting trenchfoot and being shot at, but a bit of hero status probably made more people willing to stick it out.

Ewock · 17/11/2024 10:02

Attelina · 16/11/2024 23:08

It was mostly all nonsense and lies.

Really wasn't but you can't argue with stupid

Allthehorsesintheworld · 17/11/2024 10:09

Rude and entitled people are always going to be rude and entitled.
Pandemic, war, whatever, they’ll be what they are.

AndThereSheGoes · 17/11/2024 10:09

MyKidsAreTooNoisy · 16/11/2024 23:12

I don’t understand what you are trying to say.

It's literally in the title.

I agree Op. It became immediately apparent which jobs are actually important. People who produce food, people that can get food from a-b and those can sell it. fairly .Anyone medical.
Good traits to have were positivity, resourcefulness and creativity. Looking fantastic wasn't really so relevant.

As someone that didn't lose anyone, had six weeks off in the sun fully paid followed by work lite and then the summer holidays, I didn't mind it at all. In fact it made me realise how much I like empty roads and less people when I always thought I liked a bit of bustle.

DyslexicPoster · 17/11/2024 10:12

Lockdown was a shit time and fucked over my kids. My dd was so happy in reception. Until lockdown. She isn't fine now and never will be. For some it was wonderful for others it was hell. The rules from downing Street was a crock of shit. Surely when someone says to you " you must NOT do this" then they go and do it themselves you question their logic?

People are in the majority selfish. It's human nature. It's a nasty side of us as a species. I was at at a theme park with a never ended stream of people crossing a zebra crossing. As my part of the crowd thinned out I stopped to let a car go. A dad walked out into road saying ' I wouldnt wait' so he is fuming to wait two seconds, the family in the car could be waiting a hour for the crush to die down. Unless a member of staff steps in people display basic human crowd behaviour. Do you think that dad would do cpr on a stranger or volunteer if he can't stay on the curb for two seconds?

Such is our species. Its like being surprised the "never forget" ww2 stuff is instantly forgotten as we have endless war. Animal survival instincts in a species who evolved to create bombs. Am I surprised? I don't have that level of trust in our species.

ThatsNotMyTeen · 17/11/2024 10:12

Not getting the point sorry.

It was a grim time and what is important is spending time with friends and family which we weren’t allowed to do

yoghurt05 · 17/11/2024 10:14

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PlayingDevilsAdvocateisinteresting · 17/11/2024 10:15

Well, I sincerely hope that the patrolling parish council members kept exactly to the times they were allowed to go out for exercise, and even if they were only a mere 30 seconds over their allowed time, that they blew their whistle at themselves, and that they then reported themselves for breaking the rules... 🙈

The quote I was replying to here, has just disappeared! I think that it was only a few posts up from this one - but I can't find it now, I think that I must have reached my full doolally state, so please think of me with sympathy 🙏

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Hunglikeapolevaulter · 17/11/2024 10:16

It became immediately apparent which jobs are actually important. People who produce food

The Labour Party wouldn't agree there.

Nothatgingerpirate · 17/11/2024 10:17

Attelina · 16/11/2024 23:08

It was mostly all nonsense and lies.

This.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 17/11/2024 10:22

LoneStar7 · 17/11/2024 09:20

My kids weren’t taught online. During the first lockdown in particular we didn’t see hide nor hair of any teacher. They posted worksheets on SeeSaw at 9am and left us to get on with it 🤷🏻‍♀️

They wouldn’t teach online because it wasn’t safe or some bullshit.

I have a lot of respect for teachers and the work they do and recognise it’s a bloody hard job but my experience was that a lot of them were MIA during Covid and I’m not going to pretend otherwise.

Agreed. I was fortunate that I was working in school at the time so mine were key worker kids and went in as 'normal', but the provision was woeful. Practically non-existent, depending on which year group you were in at the time.

And my mum ended up in a psych ward due to the utter failings of our local GP service, so I am by no means underestimating the effect of the pandemic at all.

Illaria4 · 17/11/2024 10:25

I remember being shouted at for putting 4 tins of beans in my trolley at Tesco. Some completely random old woman telling me I’m selfish. She carried on and on until I put 3 of them back. I was 34 weeks pregnant with 3 young children at home. Every time I bought food I would get filthy looks because with a big family we obviously needed more. I think I prefer being able to buy whatever I like these days without being shouted at.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 17/11/2024 10:25

My DC also got bugger all. The teachers certainly were not delivering lessons online in our school. It's a very naive, privileged take to imagine everyone had access to that.

But the teachers aren't the people who were to blame for that state of affairs.

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/11/2024 10:28

DinaofCloud9 · Yesterday 23:51

MrsSkylerWhite · Yesterday 23:35
Attelina · Today 23:08
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It was mostly all nonsense and lies
Not if you had a vulnerable loved one. How nasty are you?

Why is she nasty?

Bloody obvious why. There will be people here whose loved ones died. You don’t die from nonsense and lies.

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/11/2024 10:29

Who’s

timenowplease · 17/11/2024 10:32

Yalta · 17/11/2024 08:06

vulnerable loved ones all got Covid and faired better than ds,dd, and myself.

Covid for them was a light cold.

For the rest of us it was a horrible infection that lasted weeks and the post viral fatigue was something that wiped us out

the post viral fatigue was something that wiped us out

The acknowledgement of post viral fatigue being a thing is probably one of the best things to come out of it.

I've suffered from PVF since I got glandular fever when I was 15. It's good it's taken more seriously now.

timenowplease · 17/11/2024 10:36

MrsSkylerWhite · 17/11/2024 10:28

DinaofCloud9 · Yesterday 23:51

MrsSkylerWhite · Yesterday 23:35
Attelina · Today 23:08
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It was mostly all nonsense and lies
Not if you had a vulnerable loved one. How nasty are you?

Why is she nasty?

Bloody obvious why. There will be people here whose loved ones died. You don’t die from nonsense and lies.

There was loads of nonsense and lies though. Still pretending there wasn't is counterproductive.

If you actually care about people and health and 'science' you'd be willing to acknowledge the many egregious decisions made by the government that were not based on science but on controlling the population and getting people to do as they were told, regardless of the outcomes.

DyslexicPoster · 17/11/2024 10:37

Illaria4 · 17/11/2024 10:25

I remember being shouted at for putting 4 tins of beans in my trolley at Tesco. Some completely random old woman telling me I’m selfish. She carried on and on until I put 3 of them back. I was 34 weeks pregnant with 3 young children at home. Every time I bought food I would get filthy looks because with a big family we obviously needed more. I think I prefer being able to buy whatever I like these days without being shouted at.

I have 4 kids and I was too scared to got out and buy food for them..People in my wealthy posh town was posting photos of people's shopping on FB to stir up hate. I had to do click and collect as we can't survive on 500g of mince, a tin of beans and 4 loo rolls a week. If it wasn't for click and collect I'd just gone to multiple shops on the same day. Spreading germs but not getting lynched. Now I never have less than 20 loo rolls in my house. So much nastiness all in the name of being superior morally. My FB group was baying for parents to leave kids in the cars, literally a month before police was called to smash the window of a kid in the car. Baying mobs against, now all for it depending on mob mentality.

pleasehelpwi3 · 17/11/2024 10:38

LoneStar7 · 17/11/2024 09:20

My kids weren’t taught online. During the first lockdown in particular we didn’t see hide nor hair of any teacher. They posted worksheets on SeeSaw at 9am and left us to get on with it 🤷🏻‍♀️

They wouldn’t teach online because it wasn’t safe or some bullshit.

I have a lot of respect for teachers and the work they do and recognise it’s a bloody hard job but my experience was that a lot of them were MIA during Covid and I’m not going to pretend otherwise.

Not true.
Class teachers didn't get to decide what to do. As a class teacher you can only do what your boss tells you to to. TBH, it wasn't even up to HT in many cases, for the first lockdown it was reliant upon sorting out the IT capabilities of the school.

yoghurt05 · 17/11/2024 10:38

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