RIP Roxie - fireworks death

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Remembering the thread a little while ago about fireworks and all the people downplaying or arguing that animal owners should suck it up because the damage is not real or too bad. AIBU to think it is about time all fireworks be made silent ones and that you dont need lots of noise to enjoy them? And to the people who defended them because they like them - hope you are proud.

There are so many more children are dying of starvation and preventable diseases around the world than there are killed by dogs.

I can't believe you don't care about children that starve to death or die from preventable diseases.

Where are your priorities?

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Exactly this.

Two families round here got lit fireworks put through their letterboxes. Luckily no one was hurt but it doesn't bear thinking about what could've happened. Could've blown off the perpetrator's hand too. The current restrictions obviously aren't working. I think you should need a licence for fireworks - displays only, apart from maybe sparklers.

The 1 o'clock gun every basterding day

I blame the zoo for not doing more to protect a baby panda from the noise.

Yes, it's all very well saying the animal had access to its den but if it's confused, distressed by the noise and has recently lost one of its family then maybe the zoo needs to ensure it's shut up safe in the den until the fireworks are over and something done to minimise the noise effect.

Having said that I'm not a fan of zoos and don't doubt many of the animals are stressed anyway.

A family of 6 were killed in a house fire Hounslow in 2023, the most likely cause of the fire being Diwali fireworks being let off in the streets.

There are many hundreds (probably more, depending on the stats you read) children’s visits to a&e every year for burns - usually facial, usually permanent.

It is entirely possible to want both fireworks and xl bullies banned, you just have to be able to keep two thoughts in your head at once. Are you getting my point, yet?

I think I read the baby pandas mum died a week or so previously, maybe that also caused immense stress?
It's also not certain that it was hearing fireworks that caused it's death.
It is sad but I think bonfire night including fireworks is a very important part of English culture and history and has been celebrated since the 1600s so overall I think it's important to keep the tradition alive.

You can chuck lighter fluid and a match through someone’s door to burn down their house…. It’s not the products that are the problem there, it’s the scum that’s doing it.

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My opinion of a city zoo, is that the animals it houses should not be so timid that they are terrified by the city noises. Lots of people and animals are affected by fireworks. Lots aren't. We've kept horses, sheep, cattle pigs over the years. The only animals that were really bothered by the fireworks were some of the dogs and the rabbits we have gun dogs also, and ensure they are climatised to be fine with fireworks for obvious reasons.
I do feel strongly that fireworks should limited to organised displays, which would go towards stopping the disgrace at the Aston campus.

Should have left Roxie (or her ancestors) in their natural environment rather than a cage in Edinburgh.

That environment is gone. The zoo in Edinburgh is run more as a conservation initiative now.

No it is asking people who selfishly indulge in polluting noisy fireworks and dont give a shit about how it affects other people to check themselves. Not saying ban fireworks, said they should be silent. How about you get a grip of the fact that the world is not all about you?

A relative of mine (not one I knew) was blown up by a firework. So there’s that too.

Gracious, there is another thread on this so I’ll repost here.

Shouldn’t be an issue in regards to zoo’s - see attached statement from large zoo in n a harbour where massive fireworks displays are held every year.
https://taronga.org.au/news/2018-07-11/fireworks-and-taronga

Where I am we have fireworks, but they are organised events. Sales of fireworks to the public stopped decades ago, which was great as I had the joy of treating many idiots who shouldn’t be trusted with a door knob let alone fireworks (didn’t necessarily care about them that much, but their idiocy often extended to allowing their children to be severely injured). So, we still get the joy of fireworks but they are centralised in areas and put on by licensed pyrotechnics companies. I enjoy it.

What is unreasonable is the two concurrent threads running on the same topic …

Crikey @ this thread.

I too can think more than one thing at a time, thankfully, but in other news, I believe Sainsbury's has stopped selling fireworks to the public due to the effects on animals and wildlife. Good on them. I hope others follow suit.

For the pp above who doesn't believe an animal has ever been killed by fireworks, here's one I'm not sure deserved the end they got. (And certainly not the only one to have died or suffered exhaustion, through sheer panic and fear at fireworks).

This.

You can close curtains against flashing lights (and you'd know which night to stay in if it's licenced displays only).

Cute fluffy animals, that's the point. If Roxie had been, say, a naked mole rat, there wouldn't have been a story.

I agree. I'd be more than happy to see them strictly regulated along those lines.