Wrap around care for those who don't work??

[Raisinsandweetabix]

Free breakfast clubs, afterschool clubs. Why would you need this if you are at home all day anyway? Another kick in the teeth to working parents. Obviously not including those in dire need of this care.

The only thing that worries me about this is how they will staff the breakfast/ after school clubs if there is an increase in the amount of children coming. Or that some children might not be able to get a place. Hopefully people don’t take advantage.

Working parents have to pay for breakfast club and after school club.. non working parents don't have to pay.. I'm assuming that's what OP is annoyed about

I think they should prioritise working parents as they need the facility. Then if there places left over

Curly, I think you are in the wrong job.

That's the way a lot of disadvantaged kids will be fed.
Sorry but I can't get het uo about it. I think it's a good way of ensuring that children who need it are given it. Not that poverty means parents will prioritise themselves, but it does happen sometimes, and it stops people from moaning that it's another handout that can be abused by Sarah down the road.

So many of you using this thread to show boat your woke champagne socialist views! Interesting how a few teachers have different opinions...

Not true. Sorry my child is in year two and because he qualified in reception he will get it until he finishes year 6

We are above the income threshold for 30 hours. But thank you anyway.

Tell me what ‘woke’ means to you so I can frame my response.

What a bizarre stance. You sound appalling. I'm all for providing enrichment and nutrition to children. Not a single issue with it whatsoever. Giving it to all children doesn't take anything away from you, but gives those who are statistically less likely to thrive and achieve a bit of a boost.

If you envy your SIL so much, quit your job and live her lifestyle.

I think free breakfast is an amazing initiative, but I feel like it could be incorporated as part of the school day. It's the actual extra hours of care that get me. I'm not after free food, but I desperately need my work day covered care wise. I don't even mind paying! But there's literally no spaces in our council as they're all allocated to non-working as priority. I think the two things should be separated.

As a working parent, I don't feel slapped in the face by this.

But like a pp, I wonder how they're going to be staffed. Schools already can't get teachers or TAs.

But it isn't about childcare. It's about equitable opportunities for the children.

Frankly, you chose to have children so childcare is your obligation.

Constantly playing devils advocate for the wrongs in society no one dares to challenge

Typical scarcity mindset on show here. It’s not a race to the bottom OP.

Where is the dad?

Giving it to all children doesn't take anything away from you, but gives those who are statistically less likely to thrive and achieve a bit of a boost.
If you envy your SIL so much, quit your job and live her lifestyle.

This.

@DelicateSoundOfEchos

So doesn't that apply to the people who don't work. They chose to have their dc?

No many people, including school staff, simply want every child to have the best chance of achieving in life.

The impact of coming to school hungry is well known. If providing a universal free breakfast means that those children who don’t get breakfast do (and with no stigma attached) then brilliant.

If we want to try to reduce social inequality we need to start by making sure children are able to access education ready to learn.

It’s very obvious from your update that these children would benifit from
less time at home and professional childcare as well as ensuring they get fed.

Blimey, I have seen many definitions of ‘woke’ @Raisinsandweetabix but that’s a new one for my list.

I’m not playing devils advocate. I am responding to your posts either with my own alternate opinion or with facetiousness.

I am not cowed by being called woke, go ahead, I have my own definition of what it means and it’s not the same as your’s.

I don’t have any champagne in the house, but I’d love a glass, thanks. Now, what about that Trotsky lad eh, he was a bit on a chancer. He’d have his kids down the breakfast club before the red flag was half way up the mast.

It is a bit of a kick in the teeth and it can feel frustrating seeing something given when you have to pay for it or forego the luxury. BUT I can overlook that if it means kids who wouldn’t otherwise get breakfast are starting school with full tummies and not hungry.

Shouldn't the same be said for non working parents? I just don't think it'd right that the spaces are PRIORITISED for non-working, which in my council they are.

I'll pay!! I just need a space!!

Not your business. Not your problem.

Would you give that place up if it meant your child lost their place and you couldn't get to work??

This is the thing. Where are the places? Who supervises? Who does the food? Schools already struggle to get/keep staff. It's just foisting more responsibility on the school. And if that doesn't work it gets offloaded to the private sector and then fuck knows what you end up with or where. Breakfast club yes it's half a mile down the road and allow half an hour to walk in between...