AIBU to think that if you're in police custody you shouldn't be able to get out of the car?

[Chowtime]

Thinking of the awful news today about a 17 year old girl being transported who got out of the police car on the M5 and died 😓. Aren't those cars fitted with child locks?

Was it a marked police car or unmarked?
Was she in handcuffs?
Why had they stopped on the side of the motorway if on the way to custody?

The only thing I was thinking with such limited info is maybe there's been a tussle in the back seat between the girl and the transporting officer in the back next to her so the driver has stopped to help their colleague? When the officer opened the back door, she darted out the vehicle and into the road?

Impossible to say who, if anyone's, to blame without more info but there'll be a reason why the car was randomly stopped and she was able to get out.

Very sad but absolutely no details as to why she was out of the vehicle. I'm sure that will come in time. But there could be several reasons why the vehicle was opened that I can think of. I imagine the officers involved are pretty traumatised too.

I agree. Far too early to speculate at this stage.

Thats a good point actually.

Yes, a pp was right, the details will come out one day and Yes, it must have been absolutely horrible for the police officers involved.

Yeah it's hard to understand the circumstances with so few details released. Depends if it were perhaps a roadside traffic offence. If it were not and they were travelling to custody then yeah there's lots of questions to answer for the police.

As someone who has been arrested, due to the way you are cuffed you cannot remove the seatbelt yourself, so if the officer can’t cope with a bit of thrashing about and noise they may need to consider their suitability. Door locks are also engaged and controlled per door, not just front/back.

I wondered the same. When I’ve been in a police car I’ve not been able to open the doors, they had to let me out.

I imagine that she became very violent in the back seat, so they stopped on the hard shoulder, to wait for a van to transport her safely.

Unfortunately she managed to get out of the police car and got run over.

Actually, you can be cuffed either to the front or rear and it's normally based on a risk assessment.
Same with whether you have someone sitting in the back with you or not.

I know quite a few police officers and one female I know was kicked in the face by a prisoner sat in the back while she was driving causing an accident which could have been a lot worse. She had her nose broken. It's not always a case of 'coping with a bit of thrashing about'.
I wonder how they would assess suitability to getting your nose broken while driving?

Another scenario could be that she faked a medical episode to get the vehicle to stop? I'm sure it will all come out in the wash

That’s bullshit.

You would think it would not be possible wouldn’t you? I imagine there would be a big risk of people jumping out and escaping if they could especially in a volatile situation in the heat of the moment. I would have thought she would be handcuffed as standard. (I have witnessed several young people being arrested and they have always been handcuffed as they would be if they were an adult.) Tragic story all round.

Really sad story. Something must have gone wrong procedurally though, No matter how violent a person is, and frankly they will be used to dealing with that, she shouldn't have been able to get out of the car onto the motorway.

What a ridiculous comment!

How were you transported in a police car?

How were you transported in a police car?

I guess we will know more in time, but I was surprised she was able to get out.

It put me in mind of those twin sisters years ago who were stopped by traffic police on a motorway. One ran straight in front of a lorry, she survived. The whole thing was filmed by one of the Police Action series.

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gets arrested and put in a cop once so is an expert on cuffing and how police cars works

You can be cuffed to the front or the rear. Cuffs can be slipped.

Hard to speculate what we think might of happened because we’ve heard very little information. Even if she was to of become violent and they needed to change her to a different vehicle this wouldn’t/shouldn’t happen on the hard shoulder because that isn’t the safe option

Has it been determined what vehicle she was in? Was she in a car or in a police van (where she wouldn’t have had a cop in with her).

No. We don’t know.

Depends how unsafe it was deemed to be in the vehicle and why? Maybe the hard shoulder was the only/ best option?
As you said, hard to speculate with so little info but I don't think there are many police vehicles stopping on the hard shoulder with a prisoner in the back so there must have been a reason

We do know. She was in a police car. And at least one police officer had to have been in there too, to drive it.

Folie a deux! The Eriksson sisters. Their story is wild ride.

I was wondering if she'd had a dreadful MH breakdown and tried to escape. Whatever happened it's very sad.

I wondered this too.