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To believe that people should stop expecting special treatment for “food preferences” (not allergies) at events?

403 replies

TheCoralReader · 09/11/2024 22:02

If it’s just a preference, it’s on you to manage. AIBU to think events shouldn’t have to cater to everyone’s diet choices?

OP posts:
AngsanaFlower · 10/11/2024 10:14

If I’m cooking and I know someone is allergic to something I’ll cater for them, but I don’t pander to people with fussy tastes or non diagnosed allergies.

I’ve come across people in the past who think things should revolve around them. For example, expecting birthday cakes for others to be dairy and/or gluten free so they can eat it. Unless it is a cake made for them, the answer is a big fat NO. Why should everyone else eat a cake that tastes like crap? I just buy them a cupcake from a shop instead.

If it’s not going to be a straightforward meal I’ll suggest we eat out so we can all be happy.

LilacTurtle · 10/11/2024 10:19

CautiousLurker1 · 10/11/2024 10:13

You are being deliberately obtuse - if you have an intolerance and can’t tolerate the digestive disturbance or use buscopan etc to manage symptoms, don’t eat it then.

I am gluten and dairy intolerant, my kids are dairy intolerant (stomach ache and diarrhoea) - so am fully aware of the impact of eating either CAN have (but not always, it is an ‘intolerance’ NOT an allergy so the symptoms can vary in severity, unlike the impact of quinoa on me or nuts on some people - it will not involve ambulances/paramedics).

If your stomach is that sensitive that occasional exposure is so debilitating, then don’t eat at such ‘events’. I never did when my intolerance was at its worst. I did not expect my host to pander to me individually when coordinating an event and catering for 49-99 other guests. Every person I know has an ‘intolerance’ to something, and every single one of them takes responsibility for what they put in their mouths accordingly - and if it is not something that can be navigated around at a normal, mass catered event, they bring their own or skip a meal.

A world where everyone thinks they are so bloody special that their individual needs must be met 100% of the time is an impossible one to live in.

I never ask anyone to cater to me because it's just way too big an ask. It's only an intolerance, it won't kill me, but I'm not getting ulcers in my colon to please anyone. If someone insists they want to cater to me, I just tell them to boil me a couple of eggs.

The problem is your assertion that people can suck it up for 'just one meal' in general. That shows ignorance of the range of consequences people can experience. If you can do 'just one meal, no big deal' lucky you. Not everyone is so fortunate.

SunQueen24 · 10/11/2024 10:22

SquashedSquashess · 10/11/2024 10:14

I once went to a work meeting where a sandwich lunch was provided. One person had a low-carb plate of beef carpaccio and salad provided for them, which I thought was a bit much to be honest. It’s not for a workplace catering budget to accommodate your weight loss diet.

Yes, that’s a time when you just pick what is most appropriate.

CautiousLurker1 · 10/11/2024 10:23

LilacTurtle · 10/11/2024 10:19

I never ask anyone to cater to me because it's just way too big an ask. It's only an intolerance, it won't kill me, but I'm not getting ulcers in my colon to please anyone. If someone insists they want to cater to me, I just tell them to boil me a couple of eggs.

The problem is your assertion that people can suck it up for 'just one meal' in general. That shows ignorance of the range of consequences people can experience. If you can do 'just one meal, no big deal' lucky you. Not everyone is so fortunate.

I didn’t say they should ‘suck it’ up for one meal - I said ‘it was only one meal’, ie they could go without if they couldn’t navigate it, eat before/after, bring something they can eat. No-one dies of starvation if they miss a meal (or have to pick at the salads/whats on offer) - and before you say, oh but they may be diabetic, then again, they plan around their illness by eating/bringing a meal accordingly.

Anonym00se · 10/11/2024 10:27

I’m coeliac, so not technically an allergy though I will be ill for days-weeks afterwards if I accidentally eat gluten. I am used to not being catered for, and wouldn’t expect special treatment.

What does piss me off is how hosts are mortally wounded if I suggest bringing my own food. They’ll insist there’s no need, and they’ll make sure I’m catered for. When I turn up it usually ends up that I can’t eat anything. “Oh I’m so sorry, I didn’t realise there was gluten in crisps/Oxos/marinade/whatever.

Please, just let me bring my own and don’t make a fuss so I can go out without having to starve.

Runb2 · 10/11/2024 10:28

I had a work lunch last week - 8 attendees, 7 of whom were vegetarian. Veggie sandwiches were ordered for all but the non veg (a guest) made a big deal about the lack of meat.... I found this so off. It's one meal ffs! And you're a guest... people are weird.

Soontobe60 · 10/11/2024 10:28

letmego24 · 09/11/2024 22:03

Well that's not very fair I mean there are always options for good so for eg if you are a meat eater would you be happy if everything was plant based?

Why wouldn't you? After all, no one eats just meat do they?

Soontobe60 · 10/11/2024 10:30

PaminaMozart · 09/11/2024 22:08

Rule of thumb......

  • 1/3 vegan
  • 1/3 vegetarian
  • 1/3 carnivore

Unless there's a chance that there might be a majority of vegans, vegetarians, non-pork eaters, etc

I only know 1 vegan, so why would I cater for 1/3 vegan?

MarketValveForks · 10/11/2024 10:37

Soontobe60 · 10/11/2024 10:30

I only know 1 vegan, so why would I cater for 1/3 vegan?

Because if you are one if 2 vegans eating from a buffet that's serving 20 people and only 10% of the food is vegan you will eat virtually nothing because most of the omnivores will take a bit of everything, including a bit of the falafel and houmous, because they are trying to eat their 5-a-day/30 plants a week and why shouldn't they. So the vegan gets there and can pick a bit of salad garnish off from around the (nonvegan) sandwiches and may manage a bit of bread.

GetOffTheCounter · 10/11/2024 10:37

Phineyj · 10/11/2024 08:10

I went to a 50th recently where they didn't ask about dietary preferences/requirements. I didn't tell/remind them that I'm gluten intolerant because the same family had had a similar event the year before and there was plenty I could eat on the buffet.

But this time it was all sandwiches, cake and pork pie type things! Literally every item had wheat in. I had to slink off to the venue cafe and discreetly buy and eat a baked potato.

Personally, I'd always a) ask and b) provide a choice.

I'm not going to die if I eat gluten but it's not very festive to give a guest a choice between having diarrhoea for the next day or being hungry is it?

It was my fault though really to assume the events would have similar catering. I should have asked.

We were invited to a 50th last year and I reminded them that DH is vegetarian. We were all served beef wellington. When DH said ' Oh, sorry, I'm vegetarian' the host said' I thought you were taking the piss'!

DH had been vegetarian for nearly a decade at that point. TBH that pissed me off immensely.

Soontobe60 · 10/11/2024 10:38

Jewnicorn · 09/11/2024 23:29

I don’t think YABU. I quite often attend functions for work where food is served (both nibbles and full on sit down meals) and have never been able to eat at them because they can’t cater to my religious needs but they can cater to everyone else (vegan, veggie, dairy free but eats meat, don’t like tomatoes, ‘coeliac’ - self diagnosed and often falls off the wagon were some of the requirements at the last one). I don’t blame them for not being able to provide food for me, my own food shopping routine involves driving several hours and crossing a land border once a month to stock my freezer up, but it does make me a bit cross that everyone else gets to be so picky. Why not meat option, vegan option, maybe a veggie one at a push. If you don’t like it don’t eat it. (Obviously I’m not including genuine allergies here).

What religious needs do you have whereby you couldn't even eat vegan food?

Longma · 10/11/2024 10:41

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Soontobe60 · 10/11/2024 10:44

AutumnLeaves24 · 10/11/2024 03:01

@coldcallerbaiter

i won't die if I eat meat, no, but I will be very sick.

Theres nothing like being alone in a foreign country where you know no one, can't speak the language & are projectile vomiting all night.

Don't be so dismissive.

So clearly you have some sort of allergy to meat then, ie not eating it is not a preference.

Longma · 10/11/2024 10:46

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Soontobe60 · 10/11/2024 10:48

LilacTurtle · 10/11/2024 07:36

No it's not. My eldest is 30 and we were advised 6 months then.

My youngest is 30 and I was advised to wean at 4 months. She has absolutely no allergies, eats everything and is super healthy.

Haroldwilson · 10/11/2024 10:50

Notyouthful · 10/11/2024 08:35

@Haroldwilson I was a veggie for 6/9 months in my late teens. Despite eating loads of vegetables, lean proteins and taking supplements for vitamins esp for b12 which lacks in all vegetarian. I felt so ill, full of colds etc,

I gradually reinforced meat back into my diet - ham sandwich, chicken on pizza etc. Within 2 weeks I was feeling back to myself again.

No idea why my body can’t take a full vegetarian diet. Yet have 1-2 meat free days a week. It’s not planned but it’s based on what I fancy.

That's strange, I felt fine when veggie. Maybe you would be felt that way anyway?

Haroldwilson · 10/11/2024 10:52

Soontobe60 · 10/11/2024 10:38

What religious needs do you have whereby you couldn't even eat vegan food?

If you're Jain you don't eat root veg, onion, garlic etc

PaminaMozart · 10/11/2024 10:53

Soontobe60 · 10/11/2024 10:30

I only know 1 vegan, so why would I cater for 1/3 vegan?

Because if my (vast) experience of hosting and attending events where food is served is anything to go by, the carnivores will help themselves to all the vegan and vegetarian dishes........ without a thought for the vegans and vegetarians.

decorativecushions · 10/11/2024 10:54

DaemonMoon · 09/11/2024 22:22

Vegan food is vegetables, beans and pulses.

A lot of vegan food these days seems to be fake meat, fake "cheese" and other processed junk. It's disgusting.

I've met vegans who don't even like vegetables. It's laughable. They're on all the supplements under the sun.

I've no issue with vegan food if it's actual proper food but far too often it ain't.

Jewnicorn · 10/11/2024 10:56

Soontobe60 · 10/11/2024 10:38

What religious needs do you have whereby you couldn't even eat vegan food?

I keep strict kosher. It’s not just the food it’s how and where it’s been prepared, e.g I’m not going to eat dairy that’s been cooked or served on meat plates or vice versa and I know for a fact that the kitchens that the food is coming from aren’t kosher. It’s complicated hence I don’t expect to be catered to, especially in a place where it’s not the norm.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 10/11/2024 10:56

letmego24 · 09/11/2024 22:03

Well that's not very fair I mean there are always options for good so for eg if you are a meat eater would you be happy if everything was plant based?

Yes. I am an omnivore, not a carnivore.

Nothatgingerpirate · 10/11/2024 10:59

DaemonMoon · 09/11/2024 22:11

My work tried vegetarian for one offsite because environmental concerns link to our ethos. My God, the complaints were insane.

I believe it.
Fed up of this rubbish.

5128gap · 10/11/2024 11:03

Tooffless · 09/11/2024 22:09

My work has gone vegan only. What it means is that all the food is quite spiced to give flavour and contains soya (a major allergen). It's caused issues when inviting external guests in who have found the food pretty vile, it's not the best way to impress!

You need to change your caterers. If all your guests are finding the vegan food 'vile' it certainly won't be because it contains no animal products, it's because they are really bad cooks! No need at all for vegan food to be spicy and there are lots of options that don't include soya.

EmpressaurusDelleGatte · 10/11/2024 11:04

PaminaMozart · 10/11/2024 10:53

Because if my (vast) experience of hosting and attending events where food is served is anything to go by, the carnivores will help themselves to all the vegan and vegetarian dishes........ without a thought for the vegans and vegetarians.

Yes - if you’re only going to provide enough vegetarian / vegan food for the non-meat-eaters, then it needs to be on a separate table & clearly marked as such.

Ionacat · 10/11/2024 11:07

This is the bane of my life at work. I organise the catering for our whole company training events and ask for dietary requirements in advance telling them what’s on offer. There’s the usual vegetarian, vegan, coeliac etc. then there’s not too many carbs please, or no chilli, or slight dairy intolerance - err like what does that mean? etc. I pass the lot on to the catering company who to be fair cope really well (and the vegetarian/vegan is never fake meat) and then it annoys me no end, when I see those who said oh well I have X allergy, say to me oh it’s fine I’ll risk it because they fancy something else on offer. (Those genuinely fussy like tend to bring their own food instead - which is not an issue.)

I’ve now had to say allergies/requirements only e.g. eat this and I’ll be ill or genuine belief like halal or vegetarian. I can’t cater for your preference just because you say dislike onions, you’ll need to bring your own food - I always send round the menu, so people can decide whether they want lunch. (Don’t then get me started on when I gave up and asked people to order from a menu in advance by X date with lots of reminders and let me know if you need me to double check anything allergy wise on the menu. I had people complain they hadn’t any food, because they hadn’t bothered to fill in the form and apparently I should have known what they wanted.) I loathe doing this with a passion as it’s impossible to get right and everyone moans regardless!