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Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

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Waitingforfriday75 · 09/11/2024 07:35

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine/

Posted here as it gets the most traffic. This is by far the worst news I’ve heard all year. Imagine at the age you were meant to start secondary school instead being forced to marry and have sex with an older man. Completely disgusting!!!

Iraq to lower the ‘age of consent’ for girls to nine

A new law proposed by ultra conservative Shia Muslim parties seeks to strip women and girls of their rights

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/women-and-girls/iraq-poised-to-lower-the-age-of-consent-for-girls-to-nine

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caringcarer · 10/11/2024 13:28

It's been shown that Hezbollah have infiltrated aid workers so it's hard to know which aid workers are genuine. Same as they hide in nurseries and schools.

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 13:28

Whoiam · 10/11/2024 10:35

Why is this a suprise to anyone? Prophet Mohammed married his wife Aisha when six and had consummated the marriage when she was 9. This isn't hidden and known by all that follow Islam.

This is not a fact. It is disputed. Some religious sects spread this for their own interests (patriarchy). Some spread this to defame Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) and demonise Islam. Which one are you?

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 13:39

caringcarer · 10/11/2024 13:28

It's been shown that Hezbollah have infiltrated aid workers so it's hard to know which aid workers are genuine. Same as they hide in nurseries and schools.

This is untrue. There is no evidence to support that at all. Please stop spreading misinformation. Why don’t you try checking your facts - or is the goal to spread lies? Why is that I wonder? You know there is so much information out there that people cannot spread lies anymore without it being fact checked.

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 15:00

Did you read the article before you posted it? No? 😂 Keep trying to find the facts and evidence to support your post earlier.

Whoiam · 10/11/2024 15:27

I’m not sure where you get your information, but it’s common knowledge among all Muslims that the Hadith — a collection of the teachings, deeds, and sayings of Muhammad — and the Tafsir — a commentary on the Qur’an — are respected writings in Islam.

This leaves us with two possibilities: either Aisha, the young bride of Muhammad, is lying, or you are.

I encourage you to seek the truth, regardless of whether it aligns with your worldview or agenda.

Peace be with you.

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 15:43

Whoiam · 10/11/2024 15:27

I’m not sure where you get your information, but it’s common knowledge among all Muslims that the Hadith — a collection of the teachings, deeds, and sayings of Muhammad — and the Tafsir — a commentary on the Qur’an — are respected writings in Islam.

This leaves us with two possibilities: either Aisha, the young bride of Muhammad, is lying, or you are.

I encourage you to seek the truth, regardless of whether it aligns with your worldview or agenda.

Peace be with you.

Any Hadith that contradicts the Quran should be discounted. Sex is only permissible if it causes no harm to either party. Some critical thinking from all parties is expected. Blind faith is not something I believe in. I believe in Prophet Mohammed and his teachings. Not the people who propagate untruths for their own ends. Islam encourages to you to expand your knowledge. As mentioned to a previous poster, all the information is out there if you look for it.
Peace be with you too. I hope you have the courage to seek the truth too.

Whoiam · 10/11/2024 17:00

You make a valid point, sister.

I gathered the courage, all glory to God, to explore Islam before delving into Christianity, as I was living in a Muslim country at the time. However, I ultimately found the truth in Christ Jesus, who tells us that He is the way, the truth, and the life.

I pray that He will visit you in dreams and visions.

BlueSilverCats · 10/11/2024 17:12

Whoiam · 10/11/2024 17:00

You make a valid point, sister.

I gathered the courage, all glory to God, to explore Islam before delving into Christianity, as I was living in a Muslim country at the time. However, I ultimately found the truth in Christ Jesus, who tells us that He is the way, the truth, and the life.

I pray that He will visit you in dreams and visions.

Yeah, because that isn't creepy at all. Grin

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 18:06

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 07:47

You mean the same western countries who had a hand in installing these governments ?

Western countries overthrew a dictator. What came next was up to Iraqs and Iranians!

everything bad that happens to Iraq from now on isn’t the fault of the west.

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 18:08

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 13:39

This is untrue. There is no evidence to support that at all. Please stop spreading misinformation. Why don’t you try checking your facts - or is the goal to spread lies? Why is that I wonder? You know there is so much information out there that people cannot spread lies anymore without it being fact checked.

try this

news.sky.com/story/amp/hamas-leader-in-lebanon-killed-by-israel-was-un-employee-unwra-confirms-13225258

fedup33 · 10/11/2024 18:10

Why did the prophet marry a 6 year old? Please anybody?

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:16

fedup33 · 10/11/2024 18:10

Why did the prophet marry a 6 year old? Please anybody?

If you’re gonna comment, please read the whole thread.

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:17

Meant for this post: Keep trying. It has been proven multiple times that Israel and IDF have lied. They are not a reliable source.

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:19

sashh · 10/11/2024 09:50

What can western governments do? Well the USA could close the loopholes that allow 9 year olds to marry. And in particular stop child rapist from marrying their victim to avoid prosecution.

How is this going to help women and children in Iraq?

In the USA, between 2010 - 2015, 6 girls aged 12 were married. Obviously that is 6 too many. And if you look at 14 - 16 year olds, that number goes up to 985, which is shocking. But I don't see how helping these particular children does anything for children in Iraq, in a completely different legal and cultural context where the problem is way more pervasive and religiously supported. Why do we have to move the discussion to the USA - just so we can say how bad the West is?

Think about what you're doing, if every time someone raises the evils perpetrated against women and children in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Egypt etc etc you say, but what about the USA? Makes it seem like you think only Western children matter. Why can't we care about people in other places?

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:21

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 15:43

Any Hadith that contradicts the Quran should be discounted. Sex is only permissible if it causes no harm to either party. Some critical thinking from all parties is expected. Blind faith is not something I believe in. I believe in Prophet Mohammed and his teachings. Not the people who propagate untruths for their own ends. Islam encourages to you to expand your knowledge. As mentioned to a previous poster, all the information is out there if you look for it.
Peace be with you too. I hope you have the courage to seek the truth too.

Mohammed married a six year old and raped her when she was nine.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 18:24

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 18:06

Western countries overthrew a dictator. What came next was up to Iraqs and Iranians!

everything bad that happens to Iraq from now on isn’t the fault of the west.

Jesus wept. Don’t know where to start with this.

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:25

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:19

How is this going to help women and children in Iraq?

In the USA, between 2010 - 2015, 6 girls aged 12 were married. Obviously that is 6 too many. And if you look at 14 - 16 year olds, that number goes up to 985, which is shocking. But I don't see how helping these particular children does anything for children in Iraq, in a completely different legal and cultural context where the problem is way more pervasive and religiously supported. Why do we have to move the discussion to the USA - just so we can say how bad the West is?

Think about what you're doing, if every time someone raises the evils perpetrated against women and children in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Egypt etc etc you say, but what about the USA? Makes it seem like you think only Western children matter. Why can't we care about people in other places?

But this whole thread is about proving Iraq and therefore muslims are all bad and therefore Israel has to be supported to destroy them, no? When the poster living in Iraq has mentioned several times, the law was not passed. Why are we still discussing that? Explain it to me like I’m a child: why are we discussing something that was protested against and not passed as law.

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 18:31

caringcarer · 10/11/2024 13:28

It's been shown that Hezbollah have infiltrated aid workers so it's hard to know which aid workers are genuine. Same as they hide in nurseries and schools.

Sorry but this is utter bullshit. There was no excuse for what Israel did. The intelligence was wrong. They don’t care. What do you think is going to happen to the land that is now Gaza now that Israel has the excuse to lay waste to it. Truthfully, what do you think Israel will do once it’s rendered uninhabitable ?

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:35

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:21

Mohammed married a six year old and raped her when she was nine.

To quote a previous poster ‘Jesus wept’ . I know it has worked before but repeating something over and over again doesn’t make it the truth. Why are you so invested in propagating this?

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 18:36

caringcarer · 10/11/2024 13:28

It's been shown that Hezbollah have infiltrated aid workers so it's hard to know which aid workers are genuine. Same as they hide in nurseries and schools.

Utter bollocks. Where is the proof and where is the justification for the attack based on unreliable intelligence ? And where is your empathy for innocent little children blown to pieces as a result, given how heartbroken you were about 9 year olds being raped in Iraq ? Or is your empathy based on race and circumstance ?

wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:48

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wrongthinker · 10/11/2024 18:51

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:35

To quote a previous poster ‘Jesus wept’ . I know it has worked before but repeating something over and over again doesn’t make it the truth. Why are you so invested in propagating this?

Have it out with Wikipedia then. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha. Or maybe pop over to 'ask a Muslim' and tell them they've got it wrong. https://www.ask-a-muslim.com/en/did-prophet-muhammad-marry-a-child/

Aisha - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 18:59

Justiceeternal · 10/11/2024 18:17

Meant for this post: Keep trying. It has been proven multiple times that Israel and IDF have lied. They are not a reliable source.

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lol Must be nice to live in a world where you dismiss anything because ‘the Jews can’t be trusted’

BabyEl · 10/11/2024 19:00

Rosscameasdoody · 10/11/2024 18:24

Jesus wept. Don’t know where to start with this.

Maybe with an argument? At the moment you have nothing.