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Paedophile in area what to do

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mickey54 · 07/11/2024 20:59

Really don’t know if should do something or not? Local paedophile released from prison early after 2 years. He is on sex offenders register and sexual harm order for life. He lives close to myself. However he now keeps appearing each week same day at the local council building where I work. Here there is a library and kids nursery. Last week the building was evacuated following a fire alarm he came out and was gawping at very young group of school kids virtually on top of them.

aibu to report him, is he meant to be going places where kids are my concern is he might be scoping out the library where the school children visit.
report to building manager. Library ? I feel really bad it’s playing on me and feel like can’t turn blind eye but what’s reasonable and what can you not do ????

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Jabtastic · 07/11/2024 22:50

Catza · 07/11/2024 21:02

I am sure he is not allowed to be within a certain distance of an educational establishment so report to the police as he is in breach of his release conditions.

He is probably breaching his license conditions especially if he is deliberately visiting when children are there. Offenders can be returned to prison for this. Someone was jailed locally for this recently because staff in the building knew his history and reported him to police - they saw that he was appearing after school when teenagers would be there.

Kibble29 · 07/11/2024 22:53

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Withdrawn at OP's request.

Was about to ask this.

If you do work in the field, @mindutopia , why do you think this sort of thing is so incredibly prevalent?

StudioFocusTricky · 07/11/2024 22:54

The nursery and library will have safeguarding leads. Let them know so that they are aware. There's no action to take ither than being aware and ensuring no risk situations develop.

If he's legally out of prison he needs to live somewhere. People being aware that he could be a danger is an effective assurance that he can't be a danger. It needs to be possible for him to live his life though.

Feckedupbundle · 07/11/2024 23:02

Police. If the building is used by libraries,police ect,it most likely has CCTV ,so there still may be evidence of him watching the children.
I wouldn't contact anyone other than authorities, that way you can't be blamed if someone did decide to give him a bit of old fashioned justice.

Creepybookworm · 07/11/2024 23:02

They won't stop him going to a library. Having worked in public libraries, I can tell you they are full of lovely people and also complete weirdos and everything in between. You can let the manager know so the staff are briefed to keep an eye on him though.

LaineyCee · 07/11/2024 23:05

He may well have a legitimate reason to be at the local council offices. The fact that he’s attending on the same day every week suggests a regular appointment. Could well be some form of adult education class intended to improve their chances of employment/rehabilitation.Having said that, if you believe this person could be in breach of their licence conditions, then you can make a report to the parole board (anonymously if you prefer.) More delails on licence conditions and the role of the parole board on gov.uk www.gov.uk/government/news/licence-conditions-and-how-the-parole-board-use-them

VitaminSubtle · 07/11/2024 23:06

mickey54 · 07/11/2024 21:03

@Moonlightstars I was worried about whether he has confidentiality I know sounds mad but worried I might get in trouble. You never know with stupid laws rules these days.

If he has ‘confidentiality’, then how do you know about him?

Torktork · 07/11/2024 23:08

FrothyCothy · 07/11/2024 21:06

Hundreds of thousands. There is an epidemic of men consuming child sex abuse images.

And most don’t even get jailed. One in my town got off with a suspended sentence despite having 50,000 images! Over 3000 Cat A!

it’s a fucking disgrace.

potatocakesinprogress · 07/11/2024 23:09

mindutopia · 07/11/2024 21:04

Nothing. He’s allowed to be out in public. A library isn’t a child only space like a school, so his restrictions won’t prevent him going there. In fact, the convicted abusers I know on sexual harm prevention orders are not prevented from being around children (if you can believe it).

Honestly, I can 100% assure you that one of your colleagues you work with is also a child sexual abuser. It’s incredibly common. There is probably someone in your family. Statistically speaking, it would be unusual if there wasn’t. You just happen to know about this one and be grateful that you do. Obviously if he does anything actually criminal, then report it.

I really doubt it's incredibly common that the colleagues of council staff, library workers and nursery workers are sex abusers because normally there are a lot of background checks for those kinds of jobs.

Swanbeauty · 07/11/2024 23:16

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JWhipple · 07/11/2024 23:19

Report him via 101 if you know his name. He should have an offender manager with the police who can take appropriate action.

Suusue · 07/11/2024 23:49

Report to the police asap.

TMGM · 08/11/2024 00:27

I’d be making a call to 111, even if just to make them aware he’s hanging out at a place in close proximity to young children, which I’m 99.99% sure he’s not actually allowed to be doing and could potentially be put back in prison for (as he should be).

Think how you’d feel if you did nothing and then found out he did something. There’s no harm done in just raising concerns, but there may be harm in ignoring them.

Worried8263839 · 08/11/2024 07:16

LaineyCee · 07/11/2024 23:05

He may well have a legitimate reason to be at the local council offices. The fact that he’s attending on the same day every week suggests a regular appointment. Could well be some form of adult education class intended to improve their chances of employment/rehabilitation.Having said that, if you believe this person could be in breach of their licence conditions, then you can make a report to the parole board (anonymously if you prefer.) More delails on licence conditions and the role of the parole board on gov.uk www.gov.uk/government/news/licence-conditions-and-how-the-parole-board-use-them

Why give advice that is not correct but is presented as fact? For a start, you don't know he was released by the parole board. They are only concerned with determining a certain number of prisoners' release. They are not concerned with any breach of conditions until such time that offender has been recalled and before the parole board for consideration of re-release. You would not report this to be the parole board!

DugLife · 08/11/2024 07:20

mindutopia · 07/11/2024 21:04

Nothing. He’s allowed to be out in public. A library isn’t a child only space like a school, so his restrictions won’t prevent him going there. In fact, the convicted abusers I know on sexual harm prevention orders are not prevented from being around children (if you can believe it).

Honestly, I can 100% assure you that one of your colleagues you work with is also a child sexual abuser. It’s incredibly common. There is probably someone in your family. Statistically speaking, it would be unusual if there wasn’t. You just happen to know about this one and be grateful that you do. Obviously if he does anything actually criminal, then report it.

So true! There was a convicted sexual predator at my workplace! Nice enough guy, you'd never have thought!

TMGM · 08/11/2024 07:48

TMGM · 08/11/2024 00:27

I’d be making a call to 111, even if just to make them aware he’s hanging out at a place in close proximity to young children, which I’m 99.99% sure he’s not actually allowed to be doing and could potentially be put back in prison for (as he should be).

Think how you’d feel if you did nothing and then found out he did something. There’s no harm done in just raising concerns, but there may be harm in ignoring them.

Sorry, meant “101” not “111”. Was very tired 😂

FlyMeToPluto · 08/11/2024 07:53

I phoned the police once with something similar and they were really helpful. They went and had a word with the person involved.

Definitely call them - you don't know what record this man has. It may be worse than you think.

mickey54 · 08/11/2024 08:59

Jabtastic · 07/11/2024 22:50

He is probably breaching his license conditions especially if he is deliberately visiting when children are there. Offenders can be returned to prison for this. Someone was jailed locally for this recently because staff in the building knew his history and reported him to police - they saw that he was appearing after school when teenagers would be there.

@Jabtastic good news. I think he must be going for the children unless he has police check in weekly but not sure how likely this is and he was here the day before as well so up to something.

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mickey54 · 08/11/2024 09:01

FlyMeToPluto · 08/11/2024 07:53

I phoned the police once with something similar and they were really helpful. They went and had a word with the person involved.

Definitely call them - you don't know what record this man has. It may be worse than you think.

@FlyMeToPluto thanks he was in the paper what he did well tried to do and it was horrific he is definitely an unpleasant individual.

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mickey54 · 08/11/2024 09:03

TMGM · 08/11/2024 07:48

Sorry, meant “101” not “111”. Was very tired 😂

@TMGM will def report online and try to call as it can do no harm, but just so weird how he’s suddenly turned up hanging around and he’s here quite a while when he comes.

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mickey54 · 08/11/2024 09:04

JWhipple · 07/11/2024 23:19

Report him via 101 if you know his name. He should have an offender manager with the police who can take appropriate action.

@JWhipple yes know his name and addrsss will do

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LouH1981 · 08/11/2024 11:47

Definitely report him.
I used to be a criminal defence solicitor and in my opinion, these types of people rarely change. I have very little faith in these courses / orders and I don’t believe that they rehabilitate.
Its a concerning pattern of behaviour which may lead to him posing a risk. I wouldn’t think twice.

mickey54 · 08/11/2024 17:42

LouH1981 · 08/11/2024 11:47

Definitely report him.
I used to be a criminal defence solicitor and in my opinion, these types of people rarely change. I have very little faith in these courses / orders and I don’t believe that they rehabilitate.
Its a concerning pattern of behaviour which may lead to him posing a risk. I wouldn’t think twice.

@LouH1981 thank you I also believe there no way is he rehabilitated and def a risk.

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Americano75 · 08/11/2024 18:03

Report him. He may well be in violation of the terms of his release and need recalling to prison.

Belle82 · 11/11/2024 18:19

Just curious as to whether you did report him and if the police or SS have done anything?
Sorry to revive the post but anything to do with little children really upset me, I have a 2 & a 6 year old x