TW death etc I think it’s a conspiracy theory but I’m afraid to google!

[SensibleSigma]

someone was telling me about embalmers having to pull ‘stuff’ out of the veins since Covid/vaxines.

My natural instinct is to declare it total guff. Generally I’d use snopes or similar. But I don’t want to read conspiracy nonsense!

Are we experiencing unusual deaths since Covid/vaccines? I have a relative with an unexpected, unusual heart condition.
Could anyone oblige with actual information rather than conspiracy theories? To be honest I think I am being v v unreasonable to ask but I’m mulling on it.

Sorry. What I meant was, look at Dr John Campbell and bear in mind the comment quoted here. The internet is what it is. Even mumsnet.

Apparently the 'stuff' is small vessel blood clots. Why the op could not say that in the first place I know not. Embalmers say it is not uncommon.

Exactly, we were told this they said there would be very small amount of breakthrough cases. Not everyone will still get it just better than if they didn't have the jab. If they did most people wouldn't have bothered taking the vaccine at all. Most of us healthy people with no immune issues didn't need the jab. We were told it would stop us spreading it to the vulnerable. Guilt tripped. In the US they were told they will be killing their granny if they didn't get it!!

How do you pull stuff out of veins?

You make and incision, drain and replace with fluid.

What are you saying - it gets blocked?? So you have to pull out - what? A clot?

What do you pull it out with?

You can do a thrombectomy - but surely that’s for a trained surgeon? And a bit overboard - as the person is dead already.

And the blood clots anyway when you die…

@SensibleSigma

Anthony Fauci, chief medical adviser to President Biden, said during a discussion on Sunday about the Center for Disease Control and Prevention’s (CDC) decision to drop mask recommendations for fully vaccinated individuals that vaccinated people become “dead ends” for COVID-19.
Appearing on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” Fauci explained to host John Dickerson that fully vaccinated people can go without masks even if they have an asymptomatic case of COVID-19 because the level of virus is much lower in their nasopharynx, the top part of their throat that lies behind the nose, than it is in someone who is unvaccinated.
“So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible but very, very low likelihood — that they’re going to transmit it,” Fauci said.
Fauci added that vaccinated people essentially become “dead ends” for the virus to spread within their communities.

I couldn’t say that because I didn’t know. The woman talking to me was saying ’stuff’. I wasn’t going to watch or google to get more information.

No, they suck it out with their hollow canines but shhhhhh

Enjoy that large gin OP, sometimes alcohol IS the answer🍷

Peope are diagnosed with hypertentsion regularly, despite their vaccine status. It would be unusual if nobody developed hypertension after the vaccine. Correlation is not causation. Googling is not research. Youtube is not a scientific publication

Oh I've heard about this, like gelatin, blood clot type of things?

Well, I can only provide my own experience I guess. I'm up there with the most covid jabbed, I'm medically vulnerable... I'm on jab 6 or is it 7? No proof here of jelly like substances running through my veins, no DVTs, nothing similar. I'd assume if I had something like that I might have poor circulation at least.

So I'm not inclined to believe it, especially as a lot of these reports were coming from people who had 1 or 2 jabs in the beginning.

Op no don't Google it, even if this was true and I doubt it is there's nothing you can do about it now. So enjoy your gin while you can 😉. Cheers!

Yes, but they also have the vote 😫

I'm sorry you're going through this. Anxious ruminatiom is the worst! I too have obssessed with health related issues when anxious.
Regarding the conspiracy part of it, think about it this way: for something like this (secretly injecting unknown and harmful substances in the blood of millions of vaccinated people) to be true, it would need for thousands of people around the world to know and keep it secret, during 4 years (and counting) and there would be millions of deaths that could not be accounted for. That's why "global"-type conspiracies are always false: you cannot fool everybody all the time, as the saying goes. It's too much, too big. I hope this helps!

I don't think brushing off concerns of "conspiracies" as if it was all mad bs is helpful: there are times when indeed conspiracies have taken place to hide hineous acts on people. In all those occasions, either the "target" of harm was small (think about a vulnerable group, like children, or also a colonized minority): again, as the saying goes, "you can fool some all of the time"; or people have found out sooner than later ("you can fool everybody for some time").

No idea who told you this. The good scientists said no such thing. You can go back and research it, what they said was clear. Honestly.

😂

😂😂😂😂😂

I’m guessing you think this is some kind of gotcha but to date the lab theory has not been confirmed as fact - as recently as September the BMJ, NIH, Lancet and BBC Science all still uphold the most likely origin is from animal to human transmission with a starting point in bats, not labs. I know those titles combined don’t know as much about science as FactFreak2020 or TheCovidTruth from Reddit forums, but I’ll take my lead from them for now.

It was a joke, you know, say something funny and everyone laughs 😂😂😂 Don’t be so serious!

I mean the conspiracy theorist in me is saying these kind of daft threads are reigniting because Trump got in..,

Transmission is a different point - I had commented on what you had said about symptoms. What I said was right. I don't know who told you this, but they were not quoting good science. (Who did tell you that about symptoms, out of interest?)

Re transmission, that is a different point, it did work to drive down transmission.

Hope that helps.

Same here. My friend said it would just be 'them,' (the unvaccinated) walking the Earth and everyone else would be gone!

OP - the reaction you have is telling.

Vaccinated people coming out of the woodwork to tell you it's all nonsense. If this was a non-triggering thread, they'd scroll past. There is buyer's remorse out there, a burying of the heads in the sands.

I know of 13 people who have sudden heart conditions, one a mother and teen daughter. The doc tried to tell her teen daughter that she was 'excited and nervous' to get the Covid vaccine! Apparently, that's why she has heart problems now. Another, a lady who was 85 and who passed away recently. Doctors only discovered she had a heart condition, and apparently she's had it from birth.

You could not make this shit up.

Of course there were!
I know three people who unexpectedly way before 2020. One was a middle aged women one a teenage boy and one a 20 year old. It

People you know....

I can’t BREATHE 😂😂😂

I work in healthcare and we have had more young patients with myocarditis and breathlessness since having the vaccine.