TW death etc I think it’s a conspiracy theory but I’m afraid to google!

[SensibleSigma]

someone was telling me about embalmers having to pull ‘stuff’ out of the veins since Covid/vaxines.

My natural instinct is to declare it total guff. Generally I’d use snopes or similar. But I don’t want to read conspiracy nonsense!

Are we experiencing unusual deaths since Covid/vaccines? I have a relative with an unexpected, unusual heart condition.
Could anyone oblige with actual information rather than conspiracy theories? To be honest I think I am being v v unreasonable to ask but I’m mulling on it.

The link above is from January 2023 and remains unchanged.
UK HSA clearly states

Coronavirus (COVID-19) vaccine is strongly recommended for pregnant and breastfeeding women by the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists and the Royal College of Midwives. The COVID-19 vaccines available in the UK are the safest and most effective way to protect you and your baby.
There is evidence that vaccination in pregnancy may help prevent COVID-19 hospital admissions of babies in the first 6 months of life. This is because immunity in the mother can be passed on to the baby in the womb and this offers short-term protection after birth.
Women who are pregnant are classed as in a clinical risk group within the COVID-19 vaccine programme. Unvaccinated women who become pregnant are strongly encouraged to have their first 2 doses of the vaccine. Women who are pregnant and have previously been vaccinated should have a booster dose this autumn.

Not a lot of ambiguity there

On what do you base that conclusion?

I base that on the fact I'm under 75 years old, not obese and have no health conditions
remember when we were told it would be a very mild illness for the vast majority of people? that's what i also base it on

How do you feel about the possibility of spreading Covid to people who were more at risk than you?
The Vaccine was about protecting us as a society rather than any individual.
My Mum was in her late 70's in 2020 and said she didn't care about restrictions or vaccines so we should continue to visit as before as she would rather isk death than isolation. I asked how she would feel if she gave it to us and DH couldn't work so we would lose a lot of money (SE) or if asthmatic DD got it and became very ill

gosh, I really didn't think anyone thought the injections were about protecting other people any more; that's a right throwback!
Anyway, as the injections have a minimal and short lived affect on transmission I feel that I am not prepared to risk my good health by taking a substance which will not benefit others around me and more importantly will not benefit me.

" I asked how she would feel if she gave it to us and DH couldn't work so we would lose a lot of money (SE) or if asthmatic DD got it and became very ill"

nice emotional blackmail for an older lady who didn't want to be isolated from her family.
You do realise the vast vast majority of the country was going to catch this illness anyway so what good did that do? Poor woman.

It angers me to think people are living in fear because of these grifters. Campbell is a very rich man off the back of it. And millions of people are living in dread because they had the vaccine. Anything that happens to them subsequently is attributed to the jab. Anyway my bro is a lot better now and I hope you are too.

"Campbell is a very rich man off the back of it"
Not as rich as the exec`s. at Pfizer, AZ etc....

@Notmoog

It was about preventing serious complications and deaths. It was about stopping hospitals from becoming so overwhelmed that they couldn’t provide assistance across all their services.

It’s a virus that is mutation prone. Flu is also mutation prone. So we get offered boosters say every winter - to fight off the new strain. We are less likely to suffer serious complications with the immunity the vaccination gives.

as a matter of interest, how much money does John Campbell have?
I assume you know as you are very confident he has made a lot of money

yes, and has its place for the very elderly/ obese/ already ill etc.
The pp was very clear they thought it would stop transmission .

@notmoog

He started off fairly ‘normally’ but his viewing figures began to drop : but then increased again when he started to peddle misinformation. The more he peddled the misinformation, the more viewers he got.
I think it’s hundreds of thousand of pounds that’s he has made.

"It was about stopping hospitals from becoming so overwhelmed that they couldn’t provide assistance across all their services."
luckily the NHS was never in danger of being overwhelmed as the public wre so terrified and guilt tripped by the government that they avoided seeking medical treatment for anything not covid related ( and that has had disastrous consequences)

You said he had become a very rich man so i assumed you knew but you appear to be guessing

@Notmoog

It’s more about preventing serious complications and deaths.

Similarly the flu vaccination as flu is mutation prone.

@Notmoog

It was another poster that stated that. I’m just saying what I know about his earnings.

At it's most simple, the basic answer to 'has the Covid jab injured people?'

Is yes. Because otherwise there would be no need for this: https://www.gov.uk/vaccine-damage-payment/how-to-claim

Then how about a BBC link relating to OP: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1d5d6nng67o

@theemmadilemma

All vaccines have a risk.

It’s about whether the risk from the virus and complications from the virus are higher than the risk of taking the vaccine.

The risk of complications from Covid are far, far greater than risk of complications from the vaccine.

It is indeed true that the risks of serious side-effects of a covid infection reduce significantly if you don't have co-morbidities, although it's not zero. But the risks of contracting covid are only half the equation. If you can't quantify the risks presented by the vaccine then you can't conclude that the vaccine represents a greater risk.

So how did you quantify the risks of the vaccine so you could then compare that against the risks of contracting covid?

And did that calculation include consideration that there's more than one covid vaccine? Eg, do you regard the non-mRNA vaccines as a greater or lesser risk than the mRNA ones?

https://us.youtubers.me/dr-john-campbell/youtube-estimated-earnings

The more they post and the more people watch his stuff the more he earns. There is lots of money in conspiracy theories. Big bucks. Enough to motivated to keep on producing videos for the channel

It encouraged her to stick to the guidelines and not die so I would rather emotionally blackmail her than bury her.

"The risk of complications from Covid are far, far greater than risk of complications from the vaccine"

not if you are under 70, not obese and are otherwise healthy

"It is indeed true that the risks of serious side-effects of a covid infection reduce significantly if you don't have co-morbidities, although it's not zero. But the risks of contracting covid are only half the equation. If you can't quantify the risks presented by the vaccine then you can't conclude that the vaccine represents a greater risk.
So how did you quantify the risks of the vaccine so you could then compare that against the risks of contracting covid?"

exactly the same as how you reached the conclusion to presumably take the injection.
I looked at the stats released by the ONS each week to showed hospitilizations and deaths by age, co morbidities etc. and compared that to the number of vaccine injuries being reported and decided that for me, the benefits of the injection certainly did not outweigh the risks.

As there was, and still is; a lot of fudging of figures around the whole covid event, I would much rather take the one very small risk of getting ill from covid, rather than increase my risk of illness by adding the relatively unknown element of the injections too.
So far, I am very happy with my decision.
In fact, I only personally know of people who have regretted taking the injections; I'm yet to meet someone who regrets not taking them.

"It encouraged her to stick to the guidelines and not die so I would rather emotionally blackmail her than bury her."
you genuinely still believe that isolating elderly people away from friends and family was the right thing to do? wow. even the most fervent of lockdowners are acknowledging it was a mistake.

you've not actually shown at all how much money he has.
I'd have thought it was easy to find as people often confidently state he has made millions. Just wondering if there is any basis to that?