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Extendable dog leads - please please please stop using them

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violentovulation · 04/11/2024 08:04

I am the owner of a large senior dog. He is always on lead, and wears a harness. He is not an XL bully before anyone asks, and I am always in control of him. He used to love saying hello to other dogs on our walks, and now he's an anxious mess because people can't be bothered to train their dogs due to them being small. There is an assortment of small shouty dogs in my area, chihuahuas, jack russells, pugs, daschunds, bichon style dogs, miniature schnauzers, westies, cross breeds of them all. Most of them are walked on those bloody extendable leads. These small horrors will yell at us from across the road when we are minding our own business. Then they try to come over the road and the owner inevitably has to yank them back because the lead doesn't retract properly, and in the event that we can't avoid walking on the same side of the road, my poor dog gets a faceful of angry ranty little shit because their owners think an extendable lead means they don't need to teach a dog recall, heel, and other calming techniques. I'm tired of telling people to control their dogs.

Do they have to attack a child before you'll give a shit, honestly? Or maybe your dog has to run out into the middle of the road and get hit by a car first? If any of this doesn't apply to you and your small dog, please scroll on and thank you for being a responsible dog owner.

I've lost all patience. truly. There is a house at the bottom of my road with three small dogs, one of which is a really nasty little shit. When they are walked, it's always out in front of everyone else yelling at anything that goes by. There's another family across the road with a chihuahua, and they all yell at each other from across the road, it's so noisy and initially I thought someone was hurting one of them. When I went to go and check things out, they were honestly just screaming at one another. Nobody ever does anything, you just have to listen to it until they run out of steam.

You have ZERO control over a dog on an extendable lead. ZERO. Train your fucking dogs. It might be your little bundle of joy, but you're failing them hard when you don't train them.

I'd like to see a ban on extendable leads, but I realise it probably won't happen. AIBU for wanting a ban on them? You can buy long leads to give dogs some room to run about in large spaces while they burn off some energy, but you still have more control over those because YOU control how far a dog goes on it.

I have changed the times I walk my dog to avoid times when there are more people around. I take him to different areas etc, but this nonsense still drives me up the wall. AIBU? Sorry for all the swearing, I'm just so frustrated. We went out at 6am this morning and it was so lovely and quiet. I don't expect quiet perfection, just people controlling their dogs. Thank you for reading my wordy rant.

OP posts:
Hoardasurass · 04/11/2024 09:15

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 04/11/2024 09:12

Good for you. Use a field. They’re not expensive. And no need to swear, manners cost nothing.

Your assuming that we all have private secured fields near us for rent 🤣 matter people don't the nearest one to us is 2+ hours drive away

Anisty · 04/11/2024 09:16

Ps I have Flexi brand Giant. It will not snap or fail - please don't confuse me with one of those daft owners that lets their dog go pelting off to the end of the lead, @Killingoffmyflowersonebyone . My dog is a strong muscular dog. She is trained not to run strongly ahead on flexi or she would have my shoulder out!!!

If i see that her nose has caught a scent, i will lock the lead. This is not a situation where i have a whirling dirvish galavanting at full extent at all.

She will just be sniffing bushes and grass as we progess together.

Attelina · 04/11/2024 09:18

I have previously campaigned to have extendable leads banned.

I always tell anyone I meet who is using one that they are dangerous.

They are mainly used by lazy people who can't train their dogs.

coffeesaveslives · 04/11/2024 09:18

She could be on a short lead and you could use a field to exercise her a few times a week. You’re choosing to use it, you don’t have to use it.

Not everyone has access to secure fields @Killingoffmyflowersonebyone - it's really not as straightforward as just "booking one". Our nearest one is well over an hour away and closed half the winter due to how muddy it is.

I'm not a huge fan of flexi leads myself but please don't make out as though everyone who uses one is lazy and could just "use a field" instead.

Anisty · 04/11/2024 09:19

£12/hour might not be expensive to you, @Killingoffmyflowersonebyone but your suggestion that i can afford to pay that 'several times a week' is way off!! I call that quite expensive. 'Cheap' is relative.

Hoardasurass · 04/11/2024 09:20

Anisty · 04/11/2024 09:16

Ps I have Flexi brand Giant. It will not snap or fail - please don't confuse me with one of those daft owners that lets their dog go pelting off to the end of the lead, @Killingoffmyflowersonebyone . My dog is a strong muscular dog. She is trained not to run strongly ahead on flexi or she would have my shoulder out!!!

If i see that her nose has caught a scent, i will lock the lead. This is not a situation where i have a whirling dirvish galavanting at full extent at all.

She will just be sniffing bushes and grass as we progess together.

Me too.

BilboBlaggin · 04/11/2024 09:21

YABU for saying we should ban extending leads.

I have a dachshund. You'd probably describe him as a "shouty dog" and he can be noisy, but every time I take him to any of the local parks he gets surrounded by bigger dogs (off the lead with no recall) who bound up to him and completely intimidate him, wanting him to run so they can chase him. Barking is his only defence mechanism. Worst offenders around here are dog walkers who just let all their dogs off the lead as soon as they enter the park, and don't care that they're surrounding an anxious "on the lead" dog. I use an extendable that self retracts fast and has a lock button so I can keep him on a short lead when necessary.

All types of dogs can be irritating. For you it's "noisy little shits". For me it's larger, bouncy dogs that are allowed to run up to to my on-lead dog. I agree with pp, it's not the lead, it's the owner.

Iheartmysmart · 04/11/2024 09:21

I ended up walking my old spaniel on an extendable lead when his hearing and eyesight got too bad for him to be safely off lead. Gave him a bit of freedom to explore whilst giving me the ability to guide him away from anything unsafe. I always put him on a short lead to walk past people and other dogs though. It’s not the lead, it’s the human idiot in the other end of it.

Ponoka7 · 04/11/2024 09:22

I think that this is just part of antisocial behaviour that's building in this country.
There's parks by me that can't be used thanks to dog owners and teenagers.
I would like charges against people whose dogs attack. There was another child killed by an XL bully over the weekend. She's the same age as my eldest granddaughter. The parents might be grieving, but they chose to get an XL Bully while living in a caravan and never walking it.

ReadWithScepticism · 04/11/2024 09:22

I don't use an extendable lead(though I have done in the past) but I disagree that they are the source of the problems that the op describes. These problems are caused by untrained dogs and clumsy/unobservant owners.

It is perfectly possible to use the extendable lead appropriately.

But to do this you need to teach your dog how to walk nicely on the lead, how to "wait" on command (as a supplement to recall training) and how to behave around other dogs.

You also need to pro-actively shorten the lead in all situations where there might be a possible problem - eg when another dog is on the horizon and your own dog is unlikely to behave appropriately

At its best, the extendable lead is a belt-and-braces supplement to proper training and supervision of your dog and will cause no problems. It is only when it is used as an alternative to training and supervision that problems arise.

spidermum18 · 04/11/2024 09:22

Think it's a bit of a reach to blame the extendable lead isn't it?? I've always used one for my dog and I just lock it when I'm on the pavement or others are nearby. I don't let my dog off the lead in public so find this a good alternative

Princessfluffy · 04/11/2024 09:25

They seem like a huge trip hazard

ButterMints · 04/11/2024 09:28

I don't have a dog but I am runner and I bloody hate those leads as well. Fed up of dogs running out in front of me, running at me, jumping at me. I'd like to see a rule where dogs have to be on short leads within all town and village boundaries.

One day a dog on a lead like that is going to meet a runner who is far less tolerant than me and the dog is going to get a kicking.

Bloatedbelly · 04/11/2024 09:29

Yes it was a sweaty rant!

Has your dog been done? As if it’s an intact male that will be a big part why other dogs are reacting.

Honestly for this to happen to you so often it seems like it’s probably a you problem rather than everyone else. Have you thought about putting a bright yellow harness on the dog so other owners know to give a wide birth?

You didn’t really explain the issue about the long leads as you mainly had a go at small dogs for barking which wouldn’t be helped by a shorter lead.

YeOldeGreyhound · 04/11/2024 09:29

YABU, it is not the lead that is the problem, it is the person using it.
I have always used them with my dog, and her recall used to be spot on, so I resent being told I have "failed my dog" by a PP.
Now, she is old and pretty deaf, so an extendable lead lets her still have some freedom with me being able to keep her safe too.

ButterMints · 04/11/2024 09:29

Ponoka7 · 04/11/2024 09:22

I think that this is just part of antisocial behaviour that's building in this country.
There's parks by me that can't be used thanks to dog owners and teenagers.
I would like charges against people whose dogs attack. There was another child killed by an XL bully over the weekend. She's the same age as my eldest granddaughter. The parents might be grieving, but they chose to get an XL Bully while living in a caravan and never walking it.

The rules need changing so that it your dog attacks someone, you are sentenced as though you committed the crime yourself.

violentovulation · 04/11/2024 09:30

Bloatedbelly · 04/11/2024 09:29

Yes it was a sweaty rant!

Has your dog been done? As if it’s an intact male that will be a big part why other dogs are reacting.

Honestly for this to happen to you so often it seems like it’s probably a you problem rather than everyone else. Have you thought about putting a bright yellow harness on the dog so other owners know to give a wide birth?

You didn’t really explain the issue about the long leads as you mainly had a go at small dogs for barking which wouldn’t be helped by a shorter lead.

My dog was neutered when he was fully grown at a year old. My dog is not the issue here. He's absolutely fine and has never hurt anyone.

So no, it's not a me problem.

OP posts:
ApriCat · 04/11/2024 09:30

I lasted about a day of boggy hillwalking with my mud-loving spaniel before I shoved 10m of revolting slimy longline back in the backpack and bought a flexi lead. No more line trailing in the muck. Happiness all round.

It can go in the cupboard now till the next time.

vegaspot · 04/11/2024 09:31

My JRT is on an extendible lead because she was attacked by a LARGE dog and is now terrified of all dogs .As a consequence cannot be let of the lead because she would bolt and she needs a certain amount of freedom out on her walks.
On a short lead on pavements and if close to other dogs for her protection

It's not just small dogs that are a problem, your post comes across as if you hate small dogs. A true doglover cares about all dogs.

ApriCat · 04/11/2024 09:32

But thanks to this thread, I had a quick look for secure dog fields near me and found two I'd never discovered, close by and not too pricey. More happiness all round!

ExtraOnions · 04/11/2024 09:32

You must remember we now live in a country where dogs are always given priority .. the countryside, the beach, cafes, pubs, pavements, shops etc etc … “fur babies” are the whole countries number one priority.

DeliciousApples · 04/11/2024 09:32

Apart from them being a trip hazard, they also allow dogs to crap everywhere while the fuckwit owner strolls up the street looking at social media and has no idea the dog has crapped and therefore doesn't pick it up.

As others have said, there is a place for extending leads but used incorrectly they are dangerous.

Don't buy dogs if you don't want to put the effort in the train them

Don't buy dogs so you can have cute photos on insta or suchlike. That dog will live til it's 14 and insta is taken over by some other pathetic company.

Don't buy dogs to breed if you don't know what you are doing and don't have impulse control.

amoreoamicizia · 04/11/2024 09:34

They are trip wires and dangerous.

Hoardasurass · 04/11/2024 09:34

ButterMints · 04/11/2024 09:28

I don't have a dog but I am runner and I bloody hate those leads as well. Fed up of dogs running out in front of me, running at me, jumping at me. I'd like to see a rule where dogs have to be on short leads within all town and village boundaries.

One day a dog on a lead like that is going to meet a runner who is far less tolerant than me and the dog is going to get a kicking.

And that runner will get a criminal record and possibly a kickin from the owner
I'm not excusing poorly behaved dogs but animal cruelty is not an appropriate response

Petitchat · 04/11/2024 09:34

SadSadGirl · 04/11/2024 08:30

I wish they'd just ban dogs completely. We shouldn't be breeding them. 😞

But they're one of the family.
Do we ban other members of the family too?