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Extendable dog leads - please please please stop using them

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violentovulation · 04/11/2024 08:04

I am the owner of a large senior dog. He is always on lead, and wears a harness. He is not an XL bully before anyone asks, and I am always in control of him. He used to love saying hello to other dogs on our walks, and now he's an anxious mess because people can't be bothered to train their dogs due to them being small. There is an assortment of small shouty dogs in my area, chihuahuas, jack russells, pugs, daschunds, bichon style dogs, miniature schnauzers, westies, cross breeds of them all. Most of them are walked on those bloody extendable leads. These small horrors will yell at us from across the road when we are minding our own business. Then they try to come over the road and the owner inevitably has to yank them back because the lead doesn't retract properly, and in the event that we can't avoid walking on the same side of the road, my poor dog gets a faceful of angry ranty little shit because their owners think an extendable lead means they don't need to teach a dog recall, heel, and other calming techniques. I'm tired of telling people to control their dogs.

Do they have to attack a child before you'll give a shit, honestly? Or maybe your dog has to run out into the middle of the road and get hit by a car first? If any of this doesn't apply to you and your small dog, please scroll on and thank you for being a responsible dog owner.

I've lost all patience. truly. There is a house at the bottom of my road with three small dogs, one of which is a really nasty little shit. When they are walked, it's always out in front of everyone else yelling at anything that goes by. There's another family across the road with a chihuahua, and they all yell at each other from across the road, it's so noisy and initially I thought someone was hurting one of them. When I went to go and check things out, they were honestly just screaming at one another. Nobody ever does anything, you just have to listen to it until they run out of steam.

You have ZERO control over a dog on an extendable lead. ZERO. Train your fucking dogs. It might be your little bundle of joy, but you're failing them hard when you don't train them.

I'd like to see a ban on extendable leads, but I realise it probably won't happen. AIBU for wanting a ban on them? You can buy long leads to give dogs some room to run about in large spaces while they burn off some energy, but you still have more control over those because YOU control how far a dog goes on it.

I have changed the times I walk my dog to avoid times when there are more people around. I take him to different areas etc, but this nonsense still drives me up the wall. AIBU? Sorry for all the swearing, I'm just so frustrated. We went out at 6am this morning and it was so lovely and quiet. I don't expect quiet perfection, just people controlling their dogs. Thank you for reading my wordy rant.

OP posts:
YeOldeGreyhound · 04/11/2024 18:59

nervousnellylikesjaffacakes · 04/11/2024 17:31

Theres an instagram i've seen a few times:

"Theres no such thing as an aggresive dog breed... oh wait - Chihuahua".

The only dog that has ever hurt my child was a tiny dog being wheeled around in a baby type stroller that got out to pee, shot at my child and bit her face. The small ones also bark relentlessly at my big lazy loaf of a dog who ignores and continues, but I agree that tiny dogs are by and large very poorly trained. Not a fan of the extensible leashes either here.

Yes, there is a person who walks their chihuahua in my local park, and whenever I pass with my dog, the chi absolutely loses its mind. Barks and lunges. The owner picks it up.
Sometimes, I do wonder if small dog owners even try to desensitize their little devils to other dogs, or they just think that it is ok to let them bark and lunge because they can just pick them up.

CellophaneFlower · 04/11/2024 19:09

PyreneanAubrie · 04/11/2024 18:46

I'm not being funny about it @CellophaneFlower because I know you're a responsible owner, I don't doubt you, and I know your beautiful girl is big and strong. But there is still no way that I would feel in control using that sort of lead for my dogs.... 😨It would scare the 💩out of me to even try. You're a braver woman than I!

There is definitely a knack to them that has to be learnt! There was a post I quoted earlier that proved some people don't understand how to use them.

They definitely have their place though and next to roads is not it. Even if I had a tiny dog that was perfectly trained to heel I wouldn't use one by the road. No dog is 100% reliable and it just takes that one time. I only use mine in places where I'd consider letting her off lead anyway. It's just used as a back up really, just in case, rather than to totally rely on. I'm always on full alert... no dog or person gets anywhere near us that I haven't been aware of approaching for ages! I tend to avoid people anyway 😂

OnlyHerefortheBiscuits · 04/11/2024 19:27

CellophaneFlower · 04/11/2024 16:32

I tried one once and when I walked forward + clicked to retract the mechanism yanked the poor thing backwards to me! Mind you she was only a little 8lb miniature poodle puppy at the time. I don't like them personally.

You don't click to retract though, you click to lock the lead. It's only if you lock the lead when it's long that it will retract back with any force when released. Absolutely no need to lock when long, only when you need it short as the lead should always remain taut.

But I didn't want her to have infinite lead length coming out the handle to do with as she pleases! (OMG the use of these is worse than I thought)

Hence I locked it at the length I wanted her to have. I wanted her to have only 3 meters or so.

Look it's the reason I use a regular biothane lead of that length now and have found these retractable devices have no place in my dog walks. I don't like how they feel at all.

CellophaneFlower · 04/11/2024 19:33

OnlyHerefortheBiscuits · 04/11/2024 19:27

But I didn't want her to have infinite lead length coming out the handle to do with as she pleases! (OMG the use of these is worse than I thought)

Hence I locked it at the length I wanted her to have. I wanted her to have only 3 meters or so.

Look it's the reason I use a regular biothane lead of that length now and have found these retractable devices have no place in my dog walks. I don't like how they feel at all.

Then you brake when your dog is the furthest you want it to go, then release the minute it starts coming back. There should never be enough slack that the lead is flying back at force. It's why you have to be 100% switched on when you use one. Fine not to want to do this of course, but just making the point that if used correctly they actually work very well.

CellophaneFlower · 04/11/2024 19:35

Just to add, it's best never to lock unless the dog is really close. Otherwise your ginger should be on the button at all times to control.

CellophaneFlower · 04/11/2024 19:36

CellophaneFlower · 04/11/2024 19:35

Just to add, it's best never to lock unless the dog is really close. Otherwise your ginger should be on the button at all times to control.

Finger 🤣

PyreneanAubrie · 04/11/2024 19:39

CellophaneFlower · 04/11/2024 19:36

Finger 🤣

Naw, ginger sounded better - I would definitely use it gingerly 😁

BitOutOfPractice · 04/11/2024 19:39

I’ve nearly broken my neck tonight walking home through the park thanks to an invisible trip wire aka an extendible lead across the path while the dog’s oblivious owner scrolls in their phone.

TheGreatestAtuin · 04/11/2024 19:48

YANBU in the circumstances you describe. People who don't control their dogs (on or off lead) are twats. I am fed up with uncontrolled dogs approaching mine too and they are bloody everywhere!

However YABU to want extendable leads banned altogether IMO.

I use one with my dog, who is very well behaved on the whole but has very strong prey drive and this is not something that can be trained out of him unfortunately. He needs to be on a lead on most walks or he may run away after a hare/deer/fox and get lost or hurt. Extendable lead means he can have more freedom on walks but be safe as I still watch him closely and immediately lock the lead if I see something he will want to chase/or he starts showing any signs of interest (ears pricked, etc). We have used long static line leads with him too, but prefer an extendable lead for many reasons.

He is fine with other dogs and I never EVER let him approach other unknown dogs uninvited (lead or no lead!).

Unfortunately, as with most dog-based complaints, it's the shit owners that are the issue.

TheGreatestAtuin · 04/11/2024 19:49

Oh and anyone who doesn't have an extendable lead fully locked when walking near a road is an utter wanker.

YeOldeGreyhound · 04/11/2024 19:52

BitOutOfPractice · 04/11/2024 19:39

I’ve nearly broken my neck tonight walking home through the park thanks to an invisible trip wire aka an extendible lead across the path while the dog’s oblivious owner scrolls in their phone.

That doesn't mean they need to be banned. It just means the person using it is an arse.

wetotter · 04/11/2024 20:00

I think all extendable leads that use wires should be banned, because they can cause degloving injuries which are absolutely horrific.

Ones that use tape are less of a risk.

I don't like them. I have DDog on a long lead (5m) which I'm adept (well, I think I'm adept) at letting out or reeling in depending on circumstances. And she either greets other dogs politely (sniff, circle, move on) or not at all. I very much dislike it when other dogs come absolutely bounding over and jump all over her. No, they're not just being friendly, they're a complete PITA

BitOutOfPractice · 04/11/2024 20:03

YeOldeGreyhound · 04/11/2024 19:52

That doesn't mean they need to be banned. It just means the person using it is an arse.

I was just adding into the heady mix of reasons why they are a menace. I struggle the think how a ban would be policed.

But maybe if enough people who use them use them like arseholes they should be banned.

JellyBabiesSaveLives · 04/11/2024 20:58

MontyDonsBlueScarf · 04/11/2024 16:45

We don't ban cars because some of the people using them aren't sufficiently trained or responsible not to cause accidents. It's the same with extendable leads.

No, we ban drivers. In the same way, we should ban dog owners.

They need to be licensed, to have to pass stringent requirements to be able to get a licence, and have that licence swiftly revoked if they are irresponsible with their dogs.

CellophaneFlower · 04/11/2024 22:26

JellyBabiesSaveLives · 04/11/2024 20:58

No, we ban drivers. In the same way, we should ban dog owners.

They need to be licensed, to have to pass stringent requirements to be able to get a licence, and have that licence swiftly revoked if they are irresponsible with their dogs.

As much as I would support this, when they can't even fine people sufficiently (if at all) to deter them from not clearing up after their dogs, I really can't see this happening anytime soon.

Hoardasurass · 04/11/2024 22:54

BitOutOfPractice · 04/11/2024 20:03

I was just adding into the heady mix of reasons why they are a menace. I struggle the think how a ban would be policed.

But maybe if enough people who use them use them like arseholes they should be banned.

I'm going to bet that it was a wire/string one.
The one we use is a thick day glow yellow strip flexi that can be seen miles away even in the dark (not that I'd let my dog trip anyone up). If the wire/string version's were banned and you could only get the day glow strip version's people would be able to see them and have a chance to avoid them when idiot owners are hogging the path and creating a hazard to others

ZeldaFighter · 04/11/2024 23:02

In 1992, I helped my old lady neighbour when her usually placid Labrador ran straight into the road chasing a cat and was hit by a car. It was on an extendable lead.

I would never use one.

GreenTeaLikesMe · 05/11/2024 02:13

Where I live, dogs basically have to be on a leash all the time unless they are in an off-leash dog park, so I have limited sympathy with "but my rescue dog's recall isn't 100%." Keep them on a SHORT LEASH then.

A friend of mine takes her dog to her local pocket park at like 9pm most evenings for a runabout off-leash; technically breaking the rules, but the park is deserted then so it seems fine to me. Perhaps designated off-leash times/days in parks (preferably times when elderly people and cyclists are unlikely to be using the park) might help.

Teresa90 · 05/11/2024 02:50

Hate them, a poor miniature daschund near us got killed on zebra crossing near us on one of those bloody extendables. Horrible for everyone involved. driver in a high cab thought that as the owner had cleared the crossing by a few feet that he was clear to go and didn't see that the little dog was still trailing along below his line of vision on the crossing. Dreadful, the owner blamed the driver afterwards but he was cleared of any wrong doing. The general consensus was that the dog owner should not have had the lead extended on the crossing and should have checked that the dog was still close to her , but she didnt even look back. No wjnners though, horrific and traumatised everyone who witnessed it too.

Cosyblankets · 05/11/2024 07:19

Teresa90 · 05/11/2024 02:50

Hate them, a poor miniature daschund near us got killed on zebra crossing near us on one of those bloody extendables. Horrible for everyone involved. driver in a high cab thought that as the owner had cleared the crossing by a few feet that he was clear to go and didn't see that the little dog was still trailing along below his line of vision on the crossing. Dreadful, the owner blamed the driver afterwards but he was cleared of any wrong doing. The general consensus was that the dog owner should not have had the lead extended on the crossing and should have checked that the dog was still close to her , but she didnt even look back. No wjnners though, horrific and traumatised everyone who witnessed it too.

Again the owner is at fault not the lead

Stickytreacle · 05/11/2024 07:41

It's useless owners at fault. I have a sighthound and use a tape flexi lead where it is safe to do so. It avoids him bolting after prey and allows recall training safely. A long line would simply get muddy, caught in bushes, or tangle his legs when he turns on a sixpence, and that isn't a handling issue, I've started many horses professionally and I'm quite adept using long/lunge lines. His speed and agility make a long line practically useless.
The flexi lead is hi vis tape which holds a dog up to 50kg and an ordinary lead is used on pavements etc
I do understand the issues with flexi leads having being on the receiving end of dogs getting in a tangle or tripping me, but that is the user, not the tool, although I do think they should be tape rather than those stupidly thin string ones.

Teresa90 · 05/11/2024 15:13

Cosyblankets · 05/11/2024 07:19

Again the owner is at fault not the lead

Yes l agree wholeheartedly but had the dog been on a normal lead this would not have happened and instead of (as a driver witness on opposite side said who was waiting for woman to clear crossing) the poor dog being only a third across the crossing when owner had well cleared it on other side, it would've been within a couple of feet at most.
I think these things should be banned except on open spaces/parks etc not used on public pavements /roads etc.

Cosyblankets · 05/11/2024 15:43

Teresa90 · 05/11/2024 15:13

Yes l agree wholeheartedly but had the dog been on a normal lead this would not have happened and instead of (as a driver witness on opposite side said who was waiting for woman to clear crossing) the poor dog being only a third across the crossing when owner had well cleared it on other side, it would've been within a couple of feet at most.
I think these things should be banned except on open spaces/parks etc not used on public pavements /roads etc.

Fully agree about not using them on pavements.

TheGreatestAtuin · 05/11/2024 16:38

Stickytreacle · 05/11/2024 07:41

It's useless owners at fault. I have a sighthound and use a tape flexi lead where it is safe to do so. It avoids him bolting after prey and allows recall training safely. A long line would simply get muddy, caught in bushes, or tangle his legs when he turns on a sixpence, and that isn't a handling issue, I've started many horses professionally and I'm quite adept using long/lunge lines. His speed and agility make a long line practically useless.
The flexi lead is hi vis tape which holds a dog up to 50kg and an ordinary lead is used on pavements etc
I do understand the issues with flexi leads having being on the receiving end of dogs getting in a tangle or tripping me, but that is the user, not the tool, although I do think they should be tape rather than those stupidly thin string ones.

Hello fellow sighthound owner! ☺️

Stickytreacle · 05/11/2024 16:48

TheGreatestAtuin · 05/11/2024 16:38

Hello fellow sighthound owner! ☺️

Only sighthound owners can fully understand 👍😅

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