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Fed up of children running around screaming

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Notyouthful · 03/11/2024 14:10

These children are about 8-13 years old. Some are siblings. They are running in the middle of the cul de sac.

What age should children stop screaming iyho?

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5128gap · 03/11/2024 16:37

Marblesbackagain · 03/11/2024 16:14

Regardless society doesn't tolerate interference.

I think people are ridiculously rose tinted on children of the 00/90/80s.

Bad behaviour was just as prevalent then as now. However people refer to their upbringing and not the overall behaviour of children.

I don't know whether children were better behaved in the 80s, but there was certainly a much higher tolerance for the 'interference' of other adults. It was an everyday occurance for neighbours and even strangers to tell us off back then. And for much less than screaming. A good thing too in some ways as many a scrape was prevented by some random adult shouting 'get off that wall!' or similar.

oakleaffy · 03/11/2024 16:37

Some screech like the steam train whistles in “ Night of the Demon”.

oakleaffy · 03/11/2024 16:41

5128gap · 03/11/2024 16:37

I don't know whether children were better behaved in the 80s, but there was certainly a much higher tolerance for the 'interference' of other adults. It was an everyday occurance for neighbours and even strangers to tell us off back then. And for much less than screaming. A good thing too in some ways as many a scrape was prevented by some random adult shouting 'get off that wall!' or similar.

Absolutely!
We were told off by neighbours if we were loud.
Shamefully there was an adult with learning difficulties on the street that we ( a group of young kids) once imitated.

Her mother absolutely rightfully roundly told us off and said if we EVER did it again, she’d be telling our parents.

We were frightened of our parents being told and ashamed, and apologised.

Mimiconvos · 03/11/2024 16:41

5128gap · 03/11/2024 16:37

I don't know whether children were better behaved in the 80s, but there was certainly a much higher tolerance for the 'interference' of other adults. It was an everyday occurance for neighbours and even strangers to tell us off back then. And for much less than screaming. A good thing too in some ways as many a scrape was prevented by some random adult shouting 'get off that wall!' or similar.

Absolutely this, we weren’t necessarily better behaved, much worse in a lot of instances but we were more afraid of authority and any adults were viewed as such. Often got a chase or telling off from a random neighbour 🤣🤣

Marblesbackagain · 03/11/2024 17:13

5128gap · 03/11/2024 16:37

I don't know whether children were better behaved in the 80s, but there was certainly a much higher tolerance for the 'interference' of other adults. It was an everyday occurance for neighbours and even strangers to tell us off back then. And for much less than screaming. A good thing too in some ways as many a scrape was prevented by some random adult shouting 'get off that wall!' or similar.

Yes but now it isn't tolerated. You can't time travel. Give some of the ridiculous nonsense I read on here, .children kicking a ball, bouncing in a trampoline etc, only at certain times due to adults working art home 🤦‍♀️.

People are ridiculously intolerant of childhood while still expecting full-time working parents to manage to supervise all the time.

Which is ridiculously detrimental to children's development. And no mine aren't running around screaming.

People don't parent with fear, we don't raise children to listen to strangers directions. We do this to give them better protection from predators and quite frankly barking mad adults!

I will take my children's protection over inconvenient noise 🤷‍♀️. Loops help the noise.

5128gap · 03/11/2024 17:23

Marblesbackagain · 03/11/2024 17:13

Yes but now it isn't tolerated. You can't time travel. Give some of the ridiculous nonsense I read on here, .children kicking a ball, bouncing in a trampoline etc, only at certain times due to adults working art home 🤦‍♀️.

People are ridiculously intolerant of childhood while still expecting full-time working parents to manage to supervise all the time.

Which is ridiculously detrimental to children's development. And no mine aren't running around screaming.

People don't parent with fear, we don't raise children to listen to strangers directions. We do this to give them better protection from predators and quite frankly barking mad adults!

I will take my children's protection over inconvenient noise 🤷‍♀️. Loops help the noise.

I'm not suggesting time travel. I'm just making the point that refusal to tolerate other adult intervention is a relatively new phenomenon.
We were also taught how to protect ourselves from predators, and knew well the difference between obeying Mr Jones when he yelled at us to get off his lawn and obeying him if he told us to get into his van.

Notyouthful · 03/11/2024 17:30

A friend told some screaming kids that only babies scream. That shut them up

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Marblesbackagain · 03/11/2024 17:34

5128gap · 03/11/2024 17:23

I'm not suggesting time travel. I'm just making the point that refusal to tolerate other adult intervention is a relatively new phenomenon.
We were also taught how to protect ourselves from predators, and knew well the difference between obeying Mr Jones when he yelled at us to get off his lawn and obeying him if he told us to get into his van.

Well obviously not as abuse of the time thrived because children were told to obey adults.

Your comment about knowing not to get in the van is victim blaming and pure ignorant of SA victims. I suggest you get better informed. As a SA survivor victim blaming us horrendously hurtful even over forty years later.

greengreyblue · 03/11/2024 17:34

Chn shouldn’t scream excessively unless they are on a ride or actually scared. I was always told not to make excessive noise when playing outside so as not to upset neighbours . I think that’s right and is only good manners. Nobody should purposely affect other people’s enjoyment of their space.
I also think that when chn or teens do this it’s a bit ‘Boy who cried wolf’ and means when someone actually needs help, they will be ignored.

greengreyblue · 03/11/2024 17:36

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/11/2024 14:25

Better than sat indoors on screens.

It’s not a binary choice.

Fgfgfg · 03/11/2024 17:40

summershere99 · 03/11/2024 15:08

Or we just ignore it because we know it winds the neighbours up 😂

And parents like you are the reason my neighbour snapped and went after the screamers with a knife. Fortunately he only stabbed their ball.

ginasevern · 03/11/2024 17:43

I think screaming has become the "in thing". I know children have always screamed but I've noticed that it's far more prevelant and protracted than it used to be. It's not just when they're being chased (as in playing a game) either, they just stand there and scream like wailing banshees - because they can.

OffMyDahlias · 03/11/2024 17:51

Oh it bugs me too, one of the reasons I want to move is because a new family moved in who’s children act like the street is their personal playground.

Boomer55 · 03/11/2024 17:53

It’s a mystery why so many kids seem to run around screaming. 🤷‍♀️. Perhaps its lack of parental attention. 🙄

greengreyblue · 03/11/2024 17:53

We always tell the chn at my primary school off for screaming excessively. It’s definitely increasing in occurrence and the chn look at you like they have never been told to be quiet before! 🤦🏼‍♀️

5128gap · 03/11/2024 17:55

Marblesbackagain · 03/11/2024 17:34

Well obviously not as abuse of the time thrived because children were told to obey adults.

Your comment about knowing not to get in the van is victim blaming and pure ignorant of SA victims. I suggest you get better informed. As a SA survivor victim blaming us horrendously hurtful even over forty years later.

I'm not victim blaming and i apologise if the comment upset you. I'm not suggesting for a moment that SA victims are to blame nor would I ever. I'm merely pointing out that in order to protect children from obeying adults who mean them harm, there isn't any need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. If we tell children they may ignore everything other adults tell them then an unsupervised child has far more chance of harm if all adults avoid speaking up if they're doing something wrong or dangerous. And if they do speak, the child has been schooled to ignore them.
You can teach children how to stay as safe as possible by telling them what to beware of. By the time they are old enough to play out alone they should understand the difference between a neighbour telling them to be quiet when playing (fine) and a neighbour telling them to get into their van (not ok) and if they don't, I stress, that is not their fault, but a parenting fail in letting them out unsupervised.

Marblesbackagain · 03/11/2024 18:06

@5128gap I appreciate your comment. However you are still placing unreasonable expectation on children. Adults can't differentiate predators you are placing that in children. So I and all I know instruct children not to adhere to any adults unless approved by parents.

5128gap · 03/11/2024 18:14

Marblesbackagain · 03/11/2024 18:06

@5128gap I appreciate your comment. However you are still placing unreasonable expectation on children. Adults can't differentiate predators you are placing that in children. So I and all I know instruct children not to adhere to any adults unless approved by parents.

And given your experience I completely understand your caution. Again I'm sorry if I sounded crass.

Mosalahiwoukd · 03/11/2024 18:18

The same people who complain about the noise of children are often the same ones complaining that children all sit in front of screens these days blah blah blah

Mosalahiwoukd · 03/11/2024 18:23

Boomer55 · 03/11/2024 17:53

It’s a mystery why so many kids seem to run around screaming. 🤷‍♀️. Perhaps its lack of parental attention. 🙄

Or perhaps kids have run around like this since FOREVER and again, parental ATTENTION?
When many hold the days of children playing outside at first light until dark with parents nowhere to be seen as something to cherish?

Older people ( either elder or with grown up kids and short memories)have been complaining about kids since time began, and that’s a fact…

JenniferBooth · 03/11/2024 18:26

Marblesbackagain · 03/11/2024 16:08

The reality is you do not tell others children what they can or can not do.

So if you aren't in control of the situation you can control your reaction. So I would advise ignore. What exactly do you see a positive outcome if you get involved?

Does that include when they are running around a coffee shop when hot drinks are being carried to tables

JenniferBooth · 03/11/2024 18:31

Marblesbackagain · 03/11/2024 16:14

Regardless society doesn't tolerate interference.

I think people are ridiculously rose tinted on children of the 00/90/80s.

Bad behaviour was just as prevalent then as now. However people refer to their upbringing and not the overall behaviour of children.

As long as you dont spout the "it takes a village" rhetoric on other threads (and im sure you dont cos im sure you are not a hypocrite 😏then all good

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/11/2024 18:32

If you (and MrsTerryPratchett) think those are the only two options, you shouldn't be parents.

@MeowCatPleaseMeowBack that's a shitty personal attack. And my child wasn't a screamer. I just don't care if some kids are. It is better than them being indoors and we should all be a lot more tolerant of children being children. There's massively too much of them being mini-adults as it is.

EalingLucy · 03/11/2024 18:35

There is a kid that ‘plays’ in the garden next to my allotment patch and she does not shut up screaming as if she is being murdered for the whole length of time I am there. It is blood curdling. And she is definitely playing as there are other kids there. It ruins my time there and I’m sure it ruins all of the neouubours’ days. Utterly selfish of the mum not to tell her she will be kept inside if she screams like that. Kids need to learn to fit around society I’m afraid - it seems lots of parents think the world needs to revolve around them and it does them no favours.

EalingLucy · 03/11/2024 18:38

MrsTerryPratchett · 03/11/2024 18:32

If you (and MrsTerryPratchett) think those are the only two options, you shouldn't be parents.

@MeowCatPleaseMeowBack that's a shitty personal attack. And my child wasn't a screamer. I just don't care if some kids are. It is better than them being indoors and we should all be a lot more tolerant of children being children. There's massively too much of them being mini-adults as it is.

There’s children being children and then there’s children who are bought up with no boundaries screaming like banshees. The kid I am talking about plays with kids that don’t scream; it’s not a pre requisite for being a child.

it’s important to teach children how to behave in a way that’s not selfish and disruptive. Nothing to do with ‘let kids be kids’ - I was still a kid when I quietly played outside in my garden, or quietly read inside. I would never have dreamed of being such a disruptive presence. It shows an absolute lack of awareness of other humans