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Boots security accusation.

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Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:34

I live in a major city and I very regularly go to Boots inside a shopping centre. Sometimes I have a big shopping trolley that I push (relevant because when I 'complained' that security followed me to a neighbour they said that it was a method that shoplifters use and security are aware that they do this) but there are also many times when I don't use it.
Anyway: I am a hoarder and I have adhd, so I can be a bit eager with products, but I always display them clearly in my hands and go to pay at the checkout. I prefer the manned checkout rather than the self check out for the exact fear of being accused of shop lifting, but sometimes the staff direct me to the self check out and I pay there.
Sometimes I forget my receipt, but I am always happy to go back and get it/prove which self check out/manned check out I have been on. One of the staff asked me which self check out I had used when the security alarm went off when I was exiting the store and he showed me how he could prove the last purchase on the particular till.
I don't always wait for the receipt or if I do, it I accidentally take the No.7 voucher 10% off print out instead. Sometimes I also have the receipt.
The lip glosses randomly have those stuck on security tags and they often beep when I walk out. After payment, I openly ask staff to remove them.

Last time I went to the Boots that i most regularly go to and the one where the security commonly beeps when I exit with my most bought product lip gloss (not sure if relevant), I was in the middle of the shop going to buy exactly that and security was watching me very, very closely and hinting to the other security guard to come closer to me.
I didn't want to be dictated to by them (or appear 'guilty' by quickly exiting the shop), but the more serious security guard 'edged' me out.
They did not 'accuse' me or even talk to me, but they both towered over me and got so close as that I felt I had to leave the shop. One of them (can't remember about the other) was security with a high vis vest and walkie talkie. I wasn't taken to the back of the shop or asked not to come back again, neither did other staff do anything to help.
Most of my purchases would be able to be seen on my Boots advantage card, but there was a time when I didn't have one because they stopped working due to not being registered online.
However, they do also have CCTV, which I am guessing they haven't consulted.
When I have been stopped by a security guard before, because the product still had the tag on and it made the alarms go off, he asked me for my receipt. I didn't have it on me, but he said it was fine to leave the shop. I went 'above this' because I have paranoia about this exact thing happen and I told him I could go and get someone to prove it. He said it didn't matter, but if I insisted, I could show him my online banking purchase and I did. I said I was paranoid about being thought of a shoplifter and he said that if I was one, I wouldn't have taken the time to show him.
After this, on another day, this I incident happened.

I have consulted two staff members from two other Boots stores, one being a manager and they didn't think it was appropriate that security behaved in this manner. One of the staff suggested to me that I call/email the customer care line.
I will probably complete this, but I don't know if they will be thorough/able to find the records of me paying etc.
I could go back to the shop where the incident happened and talk to the manager as the other manager of the other Boots advised, but I suspect that I might be edged out again and hence unable to find the manager.
Thanks for reading.

OP posts:
Scutterbug · 03/11/2024 13:37

I’m a bit confused by your post. So were you stopped as you exited and accused of shoplifting? Then you showed your internet banking as proof of purchase? And then they let you go?

salamancalalo · 03/11/2024 13:38

Not sure anyone has done anything wrong here.
No one accused you of anything, no one questioned you, they said you could go without proving anything.

HundredMilesAnHour · 03/11/2024 13:40

This all sounds like unnecessary drama and that your behaviour is somewhat dodgy OP. What does "can be a bit eager with products" mean??

Just take the receipt and keep it with your purchases until you've left the shop. Simples.

No idea what ADHD has to do with it but it gets very tiresome that people keep using being ND as an excuse. You're doing those of us who are ND no favours.

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:40

Those were two separate incidents.
I wanted to illustrate that I have been asked for my proof of purchase on more than one occasion.
The most recent and serious event was when they 'edged' me out of the shop without explanation.

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TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 03/11/2024 13:42

Just buy stuff online instead.

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:43

'Not sure anyone has done anything wrong here.'
They refused to allow me to remain in the shop. I hadn't made a purchase that day but was going to.

The machines/staff serving don't always give a receipt but you can ask for one.

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Onthesideofthespiders · 03/11/2024 13:43

What do you mean by “a bit eager with products?” I have ADHD but even I can’t work out what you mean by that. Are you displaying strange behaviours? Grabbing stuff and hugging it into yourself, looking like you’re hiding it?

Did the security guards during this incident actually come up either side of you and herd you out of the shop? Where they within a foot or two of you either side trying to intimidate you out of the shop? That’s not OK. They can’t behave like that and you should absolutely complain.

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:44

I don't want to have to pay postage.
I also don't want security/staff/anyone to believe that I shop lift.

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LIZS · 03/11/2024 13:44

What is your query? Theft via self checkouts is huge. Small items such as lipglosses can be easily hidden in pockets etc. What do you suggest as an alternative to challenging alarms and spot checking receipts?

Onthesideofthespiders · 03/11/2024 13:44

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:40

Those were two separate incidents.
I wanted to illustrate that I have been asked for my proof of purchase on more than one occasion.
The most recent and serious event was when they 'edged' me out of the shop without explanation.

They surrounded you and actually walked in a way that force you to walk as well until they got you out of the shop? Without anyone saying a word?

purplebeansprouts · 03/11/2024 13:45

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:43

'Not sure anyone has done anything wrong here.'
They refused to allow me to remain in the shop. I hadn't made a purchase that day but was going to.

The machines/staff serving don't always give a receipt but you can ask for one.

If they are uncomfortable with you being in the shop they can ask you to leave.

Have you tried ordering online instead?

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:45

'Did the security guards during this incident actually come up either side of you and herd you out of the shop? Where they within a foot or two of you either side trying to intimidate you out of the shop? That’s not OK. They can’t behave like that and you should absolutely complain.'
Yes they did exactly that.

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purplebeansprouts · 03/11/2024 13:45

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:44

I don't want to have to pay postage.
I also don't want security/staff/anyone to believe that I shop lift.

If you spend more than £25 then you don't have to

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:46

They surrounded you and actually walked in a way that force you to walk as well until they got you out of the shop? Without anyone saying a word?
Yep.

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DisplayPurposesOnly · 03/11/2024 13:46

Too much drama. Make your life simpler. Use a shopping basket to put your stuff-im-buying in and get a receipt.

Singleandproud · 03/11/2024 13:47

This is a whole load of nothing.
The security guards didn't actually do anything to you, they didn't even talk to you on this occasion.

This is far more likely to be a case of mistaken identity - they were probably radioed a description of someone similar to you that was being sketchy from somewhere else in the precinct / High Street.

If you have such a regular issue in-store just buy online and get it delivered. I think it's more likely that whatever MH issue causes your hoarding is also causing this anxiety and paranoia at a non-event.

purplebeansprouts · 03/11/2024 13:47

DisplayPurposesOnly · 03/11/2024 13:46

Too much drama. Make your life simpler. Use a shopping basket to put your stuff-im-buying in and get a receipt.

Yes I think if you're a regular heavy spender in the shop this is the best way forward. You obviously fit a pattern that is giving them suspicions and it's not a crime to refuse to serve you on that basis.

DreamW3aver · 03/11/2024 13:47

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:44

I don't want to have to pay postage.
I also don't want security/staff/anyone to believe that I shop lift.

Does your boots not offer click and collect from the shop? If its a big issue for you why not do that?

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:48

purplebeansprouts · 03/11/2024 13:45

If you spend more than £25 then you don't have to

I enjoy going to this shop and and I don't want to spend £25 on cheap lip gloss. I also want to know the shade names and look at them in person.
I don't want to 'resign' into avoiding the shop.
I've never stolen and I'm polite.

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purplebeansprouts · 03/11/2024 13:49

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:48

I enjoy going to this shop and and I don't want to spend £25 on cheap lip gloss. I also want to know the shade names and look at them in person.
I don't want to 'resign' into avoiding the shop.
I've never stolen and I'm polite.

They don't want you in their shop

DoreenonTill8 · 03/11/2024 13:49

i am a hoarder and I have adhd, so I can be a bit eager with products, but I always display them clearly in my hands and go to pay at the checkout.
How are you displaying them clearly in your hands while pushing a large shopping trolley?
Another for saying can't see what they did wrong.

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:50

DoreenonTill8 · 03/11/2024 13:49

i am a hoarder and I have adhd, so I can be a bit eager with products, but I always display them clearly in my hands and go to pay at the checkout.
How are you displaying them clearly in your hands while pushing a large shopping trolley?
Another for saying can't see what they did wrong.

Alot of the time I don't have the trolley, and I can push it with one hand if I'm careful.

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sinckersnack · 03/11/2024 13:51

Suspect OP was looking shifty. She wasn't making her way purposefully towards the lip glosses but pushing a big shopping trolley and not being clear where she wanted to go - and to watching the security teams. (Most of us barely notice them).
She admits to getting stressed and feeling guilty (for no reason I hasten to add). So security guards keep a close eye. Their role is to prevent theft.

If OP'd wanted to buy something she could have said "excuse me I just need to get to the lip glosses". But she didn't.

Upsetting but not the end of the world OP. Next time - go in, get what you need, pay and get receipt. Accept that you might be spot checked - it happens to everyone at some point.

Tulip8 · 03/11/2024 13:51

Startyabastard · 03/11/2024 13:48

I enjoy going to this shop and and I don't want to spend £25 on cheap lip gloss. I also want to know the shade names and look at them in person.
I don't want to 'resign' into avoiding the shop.
I've never stolen and I'm polite.

Then stop acting dodgy!

Their job is to determine shoplifters, you're acting like a shoplifter so this means they will focus on you.

Ilikewinter · 03/11/2024 13:52

Get a basket, get your receipt. Leave your shopping trolley at home.