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To ask you to pray for Valencia - Spain floods aftermath

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PrayForValencia · 03/11/2024 11:55

I have been an on-and-off Mumsnetter for years, I’m Valencian, and haven’t seen a thread until now about what is happening in Spain.

The situation is dire. For those unaware of what has happened, I urge you to read about it. On Tuesday 29 October, large areas west and south of the city of Valencia suffered the deadliest flash floods ever recorded in the country. Ever since that night, we live in a constant nightmare. I am one of the lucky ones whose town was not damaged. My family is alive. It was a terrifying night and many people survived by climbing on to their roofs, cars, or trees. Some of our neighbours took 2 days to come back home after sleeping on a lorry, the roof of a gas station, I could go on.

215 deaths have been reported so far. The real number is much, much higher. Water came all of a sudden and caught thousands of people out in the streets, shopping, driving back from work. A year’s worth of rain fell in just a few minutes, and towns downstream were flash-flooded out of nowhere. The emergency alert came in at 8:15pm, by which point hundreds of people had already been dragged by the water and killed. None of us saw this coming, I was at work until 7:45pm and made it back totally unaware just because I happen to live on the other side of the river. We were not warned that this amount of water was coming.

The destruction has been immense. Whole neighbourhoods wiped out. Roads are blocked, railways unusable, thousands of cars and lorries were dragged by the water and now block streets and access routes to the city itself (which is unaffected due to the river being diverted after the floods in 1957).

The worst of it is that there are still thousands of missing people. They estimate 2000, but it could be higher. Many towns and villages still don’t have running water, electricity, phone signal, and their roads are totally inaccessible so nobody knows what has happened to their inhabitants.

The amount of mud everywhere is terrifying. People don’t have clean water or food, access to toilets, many are still unable to come out of their homes due to mud and car piles blocking their streets. People have lost everything - their homes, cars, businesses and belongings.

Corpses are found all the time inside cars in garages, parking lots, floating away in the streams… It is gruesome. The conditions are unhygienic. The mayor of one town has said they have hundreds of cars at the bottom of the hill still buried in the mud, and none of their presumed occupants have been seen or heard of since the flood. This is a real tragedy. It is not being reported properly outside of Spain from what I can see.

The regional government is fighting with the national government over who needs to pull the trigger and involve bigger agencies and resources in the recovery of this area. I won’t go into the details, it’s shameful.

Help has come late and not in enough quantities - the Valencian people have walked over the bridge to the damaged side of the river for days now, with buckets, spades, brooms and cleaning supplies, and they are cleaning the streets. All the furniture inside damaged homes needs to be thrown away. People are collecting incredible amounts of food, water, sanitary and baby products, and the police is finally organising supply routes to most towns. It’s the citizens of the region who are doing the heavy lifting right now.

The Army apparently came in yesterday. Let’s hope they stay for longer than a week. Thousands of people are missing. We need proper machines to pump out water from garages and streets. Some villages are still to see the Emergency Military Unit (UME) who is meant to clear bodies, bring food and water and start repairs. Nobody is helping these people, roads are too damaged for cars to drive there, it’s too far to walk.

I have been unable to help physically this weekend due to caring responsibilities. Tomorrow morning I will be going in to sweep mud out of homes, and hope the infestation in the affected towns (from a lack of sewage and clean water systems) doesn’t make us all ill. But we can’t just stay at home.

I ask that you please pray for the Valencian region. We are due heavy rainfall again tonight. We can’t cope with even more water. If you are not religious, please send your good thoughts over to Spain. We are too busy and too traumatised to protest to the government right now. The response has been appalling, and it’s the community coming together and cleaning the streets by hand, one by one, that will end up rebuilding the area. Pray that aid reaches the cut-off towns. That people can call their loved ones and find out they are well. That this nightmare ends soon. Sorry for the very long post, but this needs to be known more widely.

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OP posts:
Miley1967 · 03/11/2024 11:58

I have been watching the news on this a lot and it looks truly horrific. I'm so sorry for what you are all going through. Thoughts are with you all and I pray to god that the numbers of dead do not rise.

PrayForValencia · 03/11/2024 12:03

Miley1967 · 03/11/2024 11:58

I have been watching the news on this a lot and it looks truly horrific. I'm so sorry for what you are all going through. Thoughts are with you all and I pray to god that the numbers of dead do not rise.

Thank you. There are miraculous rescues happening, including a baby who was found alive yesterday after 4 days, his parents sadly were not found in the home. Hope is dwindling down with each hour though, and we know there are still so many places yet to be searched. We feel like we are fighting on our own much of the time.

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Ilovegoldies · 03/11/2024 12:04

I am a lover of Spain and everything Spanish. I can pray but I'd like to make a donation. How do I know the best place to donate? I'm hoping you can suggest something. I'm not keen on donating to The Red Cross as I would prefer to send to a local charity.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 03/11/2024 12:06

I saw some videos on twitter and FB. It's horrendous people being swept in their cars etc.

I really feel for them and am surprised haven't seen much about it officially.

I've been to Valencia a couple of times about 20 years ago and loved it.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 03/11/2024 12:07

PrayForValencia · 03/11/2024 12:03

Thank you. There are miraculous rescues happening, including a baby who was found alive yesterday after 4 days, his parents sadly were not found in the home. Hope is dwindling down with each hour though, and we know there are still so many places yet to be searched. We feel like we are fighting on our own much of the time.

Horrific :(

ArseyVarsey · 03/11/2024 12:07

I have seen so many images and videos of what has been happening in Valencia and the surrounding areas. I mean, to have a years worth of rain in 8 hours in totally catastrophic. I am sorry that there was so little warning. If you had more warning, then many would have prepared, or evacuated. I hate to think of those struggling without basic sanitation, clean water, food etc and all of the missing people. My heart goes out to you all. I am terribly sorry you feel alone, even though I am not in Spain I do think of you all, and am sending love and very best wishes. I know that is not enough. Nothing near it. I cannot imagine what you all must be going through.

Lampzade · 03/11/2024 12:07

Dh is Spanish . The whole thing is heartbreaking.
I just feel so helpless .

TakeMe2Insanity · 03/11/2024 12:07

I was absolutely horrified watching this very briefly on the news, so then went off and found rtve reports on youtube. I’m so shocked about dana and that more hasn’t been made of it (outside of Spain). We all need to be concerned. Sending you much virtual strength and love.

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 03/11/2024 12:11

How come there was no warning though? Usually forecasts predict rainfall amounts?

Squirrelsnut · 03/11/2024 12:11

Sending love and strength. I'm so sorry you are all going through this.
Does anyone know a good charity to donate to?

ssd · 03/11/2024 12:13

Thank you for this @PrayForValencia

Its not being reported on enough

SpiggingBelgium · 03/11/2024 12:14

It’s horrendous. But YABU for asking people to pray. Ask them to do something useful and practical.

Nobodywantsthis · 03/11/2024 12:18

I agree it's horrific. The power of the water was truly terrifying. It looked apocalyptic.
I visited Valencia about 10 years ago and I've always said how beautiful the city is. The old town, the beach, the culture. I've recommended it to people on Mumsnet many a times when they've asked where to go on holiday.

midgetastic · 03/11/2024 12:19

Committing to reducing my carbon footprint to stop this happening again

Waltdisnerd · 03/11/2024 12:19

Praying for you all 🙏🏼

Newrumpus · 03/11/2024 12:21

Has there been a DEC set up for donations?

Nobodywantsthis · 03/11/2024 12:21

And all I keep seeing on the news is trump Vs Harris. So bored of it. When there are more important issues such as this happening.

WoolerOwl · 03/11/2024 12:22

I am praying for you.

LoobyDoop2 · 03/11/2024 12:22

What has happened is awful, really terrifying. It has been covered extensively in the Times. I am not religious, but you have been and will be in my thoughts, and I will make a donation to the rescue operation. Sending love and solidarity x

ArseyVarsey · 03/11/2024 12:27

SpiggingBelgium · 03/11/2024 12:14

It’s horrendous. But YABU for asking people to pray. Ask them to do something useful and practical.

”you are being unreasonable asking people to pray”. Really? You are being unreasonable writing this. Sometimes, this is all some people have to give. Their love, their thoughts, their prayers. It’s still something, which the OP asked for.

PrayForValencia · 03/11/2024 12:29

I don’t want the thread to be taken down, as its purpose was not to ask for donations, so I would rather not link directly to any specific foundations. I am always happy to check the authenticity of any website / petition via PM, but if other Spaniards know of a good charity to link to, please feel welcome to do so.

Small charities are not as common here as in the UK, everything is more centralised. From what I can see online, the charities recommended in the main articles of reputable newspapers (such as the official Food Bank) are the ones carrying out a lot of work right now. There must be some “international” foundations I am unaware of, be it for general emergency aid or specific things like animal rescues - pets are kept in overcrowded shelters and in need of food and foster homes…

Just as clarification, the city of Valencia itself has been mostly spared by the disaster - where I work, 10km from ground zero, we didn’t have a single drop of rain, just terrible wind. This makes it slightly more difficult as all the organised agencies offering help have to coordinate reaching those towns in the metropolitan area, or up the west road towards Madrid, first.

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QuarterHorse · 03/11/2024 12:29

Thank you for posting. It's horrific. We spent our honeymoon 6 yrs ago in Valencia. It holds a special place in our hearts. I do not understand why the international community has not started to get aid and rescue to you as yet. We seem quick enough to send it outside of Europe. I do hope that the death toll does not rise further.
The efforts of the Valencian communities are incredible and humbling.

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SpiggingBelgium · 03/11/2024 12:31

ArseyVarsey · 03/11/2024 12:27

”you are being unreasonable asking people to pray”. Really? You are being unreasonable writing this. Sometimes, this is all some people have to give. Their love, their thoughts, their prayers. It’s still something, which the OP asked for.

Yes, really. If you think I’m unreasonable, that’s entirely your prerogative, but thoughts and prayers don’t rebuild homes - that’s just fact.

Snackpocket · 03/11/2024 12:31

It’s awful. If people do want to make a donation the official way to do it is here comunica.gva.es/va/detalle?id=387402765&site=373422916

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