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AIBU?

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AIBU to be annoyed at my SIL?

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bdot86 · 02/11/2024 22:55

My DHs twin’s wife drives me mad. She’s really cold and shy toward us (me, DH and our 2 kids), but she sends amazing presents for birthdays and Christmas. She’s never visited us in London because she “hates” it, so we’re always the ones traveling to see them in Scotland. Every time we visit, she’s nice on day one, then by day two, it’s like she’s completely fed up with us—she’s downright rude, barely speaks to us, disappears to do her own thing, and acts like we’re a total inconvenience in her house. She also yells at my DS4 for minor things like sitting on the wrong part of the sofa, often upsetting him. We don’t usually come for more than 3 days and we’re good guests.

The whole gift thing just confuses me—she’s cold in person but sends my kids thoughtful presents, and does the same with my PIL who live abroad. She constantly sends them handmade cards from her son, which they love, but then complains about them horribly to her husband (they have no idea!) and refuses to speak to them aside from when she visits them once a year.

To make things worse, both they and my husband’s whole family put loads of pressure on us to visit them and none vice Verca. So if we don’t visit them .. our kids will simply not get a chance to be together. She refuses to visit PIL at the same time as us which was something we’ve suggested.

On the last trip, after the usual day 2 of rudeness I finally had enough and confronted her, asking if we’d done something to offend her. I admit I was angry, but I wanted to clear the air. Then, out of nowhere, my husband (who can’t stand her either!) didn’t back me up and actually started shouting at me for bringing it up. It was horrible, and now somehow I’m being painted as the problem, when all I’ve done is try to make things right.

Honestly, I’m so angry at her, at him, and at his whole family, who idealise her because she’s a “model old-fashioned wife” or does the right things on paper. But she’s really dismissive and rude and she’s getting away with it! While I feel like im making the effort to bring the cousins closer by traveling to them as requested , I send nice messages to her (not too much as I understand and respect that’s she’s an introvert and doesn’t want to be close) and I encourage my DH to stay in touch with his parents. I buy nice gifts too btw but is that more valuable than kindness, respect and connection ???Anyway I’m really starting to resent the lot of them. AIBU?

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HalloweenHaribo · 02/11/2024 22:59

She's not the first person to dislike her husband's family and she certainly won't be the last.

If your kids and theirs won't get a chance to be together because you don't visit them, this is a clear indication that your husband's twin really isn't bothered either.

I'd take the hint and if the kids want to contact each other when they're older, they can.

CrispyCrumpets · 02/11/2024 23:01

If she is an introvert she probably will be fed up of having people in her house by day 2. Even if she imagines she will be a great host and love seeing you all, she obviously isn't loving the reality. If I went to visit again I would book a hotel or Air BNB and just go over for a few hours or meet them at a local attraction or something and see if everyone gets along better that way.

The thoughtful gift thing I don't really see as linked. She might be great at choosing gifts, but not so great with too much social contact/stimulation.

HecatesBees · 02/11/2024 23:02

So if we don’t visit them .. our kids will simply not get a chance to be together

Oh well

JustTalkToThem · 02/11/2024 23:03

you don’t sound like a walk in the park either.

she sounds like she likes her own space and too much time with people wears on her. But it also sounds like she likes or even loves you and your family.

you can be mad, or try to meet her where she’s at.

JustMarriedBecca · 02/11/2024 23:03

There's a massive difference having someone who can right swipe at Amazon or buy lovely socks they have seen an influencer have on IG and having someone stay with you for 2-3 days.

I think you probably need to apologise for bringing it up and just move on.

You don't need to like your SIL. You need to be open to communication but otherwise, sack it off.

Viewfrommyhouse · 02/11/2024 23:07

You've a DH problem. Wtf is he playing at?

MSLRT · 02/11/2024 23:10

I would stop bothering. If your husband wants to visit his brother then he can but in view of the fact that he never backed you up he can go by himself. Stop worrying about what your in laws think of you. You do you.

PeriPeriMam · 02/11/2024 23:10

Let your husband go visit them with the kids. Then his family can stop pressuring you, the kids can see each other, and you can stay well out of it. Develop an allergy to Scotland or a similarly completely reasonable reason that you can't go, and enjoy some peace and quiet while DH gets to spend time with his DFam

cromwell44 · 02/11/2024 23:11

Just ignore the pressure from the ILs to visit. If your PILs live abroad they can’t really expect you to do all the keeping in touch and getting together, especially as it sounds like your SIL is actively not interested in getting together.
Leave it to the twin brothers to sort. Live your own life and don’t take in the burden to making the cousins bond.

therewasafishinthepercolator · 02/11/2024 23:11

It sounds like you don't really get introversion and you're getting angry at her for not behaving in a way you would like. The thoughtful gifts is her way of making an effort.

Edingril · 02/11/2024 23:11

You are pushing this and there is no need, you have decided what has to happen and how everyone is to act life is not like that

Just concentrate on your own life

dogfail · 02/11/2024 23:13

Match her energy. Don't go. If dh wants to visit let him and ask kids if they want to go

shampooing · 02/11/2024 23:14

Just don’t go, or go and don’t stay with them.

If they hate London and you don’t want to be the only one making the effort is there somewhere you can all meet up for a couple of days, everyone with their own space?

If they won’t make any effort I would reduce how often you visit. The road goes both ways. I live far from some family and am no longer prepared to use all my annual
leave visiting them if there’s no mutual effort.

PS I would always jump at the chance to go to London!

AnneLovesGilbert · 02/11/2024 23:14

If she doesn’t enjoy visitors she shouldn’t invite them. He can go alone from now on. I doubt he’ll bother but that’s what I’d be saying. Don’t waste your precious time going and don’t send your kids if she’s going to be mean to them and their own father won’t stick up for them. He’s putting everyone’s wishes ahead of those of his wife and kids - what an embarrassment.

AnneLovesGilbert · 02/11/2024 23:15

therewasafishinthepercolator · 02/11/2024 23:11

It sounds like you don't really get introversion and you're getting angry at her for not behaving in a way you would like. The thoughtful gifts is her way of making an effort.

No, if she can’t sustain basic civility for more than a day she shouldn’t invite people for more than a day. Her poor behaviour is her responsibility and possibly being an introvert is so excuse for being a dick.

Sasannach · 02/11/2024 23:16

therewasafishinthepercolator · 02/11/2024 23:11

It sounds like you don't really get introversion and you're getting angry at her for not behaving in a way you would like. The thoughtful gifts is her way of making an effort.

Introversion doesn't equate to free reign to be nasty just because you feel uneasy or tapped out. If the twin & SIL invited the family to stay, but then the SIL seems to resent it, whose responsibility is that?

BPR · 02/11/2024 23:17

She doesn't want you to visit.
Stop it.
Obviously she is rude as hell, but you shouldn't continue to visit, she clearly doesn't want you all.
You have a much bigger problem with that disloyal twat you married.
He's the real problem.
I wouldn't so much as visit nor lift a finger regarding his family again.
Hand it over to the disloyal wet twat.

gamerchick · 02/11/2024 23:18

Dude. Book a hotel man.

If she protests, tell her it seems she doesn't like houseguests that much. Let the explosion happen and enjoy the fallout

Ponderingwindow · 02/11/2024 23:18

I thought at first you might be writing about me. I make handmade cards, for very thoughtful gifts that are wrapped perfectly. I try my best to play hostess, but I eventually falter. I don’t live in Scotland though.

i am autistic. I wasn’t sure of that until my 40s. It is unbelievably obvious in many ways, but “high functioning” girls never got diagnosed in my peer group.

Ponderingwindow · 02/11/2024 23:19

wanted to add, I no longer host houseguests. I know I can’t handle it. People who visit get hotels. When I visit other people, we get a hotel. It makes the visit much more pleasant for everyone.

WearyAuldWumman · 02/11/2024 23:20

Is it possible that the SIL has a form of ASD? I'm wondering because I guess what I've seen some referring to as my "love language" involves trying to be thoughtful with presents, but I'm very awkward with people in person.

Looking back, I can see that I was able to "mask" at work and in some situations, but socially I'm extremely awkward: I find it difficult knowing how to behave and what to say.

EvelynBeatrice · 02/11/2024 23:20

Think going but staying in a hotel or bnb may be the answer so you can get together but all have your own space.

Elseaknows · 02/11/2024 23:21

I'd be pretty miffed at my DH for not having my back in that situation but atleast you've spoken up.
Introversion doesn't mean being an arsehole to guests.
She doesn't like London, you say you don't like Scotland. Let your DH travel on his own. Bet it stops quite quickly after that.
I stopped reaching out to my DH family due to them stressing me out (and him taking a back seat to it all). Now we are all low contact because they (and my DH) don't bother their arse. I was being treated in a similar way to you, I was putting in all the effort (minus getting thoughtful gifts on big occasions) and I thought to myself "why am I putting myself through this?"

Take a step back from them all. Get your DH to sort contact with his family.

EmberAsh · 02/11/2024 23:21

I would be really interested to hear the sister's version of this.
You've described yourself as good guests but would she?

ManhattanPopcorn · 02/11/2024 23:22

If my dh had a go at my sister's husband while we we're staying in their house I wouldn't back him up either.

You handled it badly.

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