Too be really fucking angry with people who just let abuse happen- Sara Sharif

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Reading it now its horrific. People saying we heard screams- and yet did nothing??? How does a person just think that no im not going to report this, most likely because they cant be bothered/ dont want to be involved. Scum of the earth the dad is. The stepmother ( and her sister!) going on and on about how they feel bad etc and dont do anything!

This is one of my big issues about this idea that none of us have anything to fear from, what was the quote a few posts above, a few "regular checks". Anyone who has a ND child, even if they are in school, will know that they and the family are not perceived kindly or acceptably by many. And those in authority seem the least willing to accept different ways of managing ND. Regulating home education is not the answer. And yes I am also aware that families where children have big issues are often elbowed out to home ed in Y11, in Dec. (School census in Jan that counts for the national scoring).

Maybe if you stopped flinging racist shit about the place, that would help?

Pretending that the bible's 'Spare the Rod, spoil the child' was anything but exactly what it said, trying to backtrack but still say 'but we don't do it now' (spoiler - yes 'we' bloody well do), ignoring the fact that women and girls of all cultures and faiths are subjected to violence and abuse to an extent that it has its own name now - Violence Against Women and Girls - is ridiculous and yes, is utterly racist. It also fails to protect the victims who don't fall into your neatly defined not white like 'us' categories of 'Those sorts abuse children' because you're automatically saying 'oh, only if they have mental health issues, whereas somebody of another religion/skin colour, it's natural for them'.

Don't ever think that possession of a particular genetic makeup renders children in that group safe from awful abuse and neglect. It doesn't.

@andjustlikethat1 that little rant doesn't make you any better , you know?

This is the problem we have to speak out

They aren’t the only disgrace

Appropriate username.

And just like that, another racist pops up - like toadstools around cowpats.

Oh dear, where is mhhq.

andjustlikethat1

I do not want a return to the death penalty in the UK.

Unfortunately the more people like you are pushed to the margins and not debated the more you will dig your heels in.

@FfsBrian thanks for that link.

Like moths to a flame the racists come. Well done OP. You knew your bigoted opening posts would attract this sort of vileness I bet.

This is a current case also on trial, a non-biological "care giver" and the child's mother both on trial for the death of this poor little girl.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mum-wheeled-body-toddler-around-34004814?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Who are “they”? Immigrants generally? Muslim immigrants? Your neighbours?

Ignore the pigeon. This is an important discussion to have and it would be a shame to be derailed by it.

I expect Sara was the house slave and that is why she was taken out of school.

I don't suppose the men did that cleaning. Or the stepmum who had 4 under 5's.

If a British person is violent towards their children it’s usually …. because they are abusive

No shit sherlock. Of course people who beat their children to death do it because they are abusive. What an inane comment.

Do you think it is an integral part of Muslim culture to put your child in a home-made hood and beat them to death? Because it really really isn’t.

Not all people from the same religion/ethnicity/culture has the same beliefs, or will use violence or rape.
some will, including in our own culture and ethnicity.
you can’t decide that someone isn’t entitled to benefits because they come from a certain religion or ethnic group and make assumptions about what they believe in.

It's a side issue but I think she was taking out of school because they couldn't hide the signs of their abuse anymore, not even by covering her up. Questions were being asked and they knew that was likely to continue. Not to say that she wasn't also the house slave.

@Chowtime maybe but I struggle with 2?
It seems very weird to me

Yes exactly, a male non biological partner. Not a step parent. Men unfortunately do lots of awful things to other men, women and children. Men need better support to address toxic masculinity mental health issues and a variety of other problems. Men. Not step parents.

To be honest I think it is part of other religions to use violence but it is interpreted differently to the many number of people that follow the religion and they don’t all choose to do it. They may follow other parts of the religion and not others

@lemondropsandchimneytops they are referring to the extreme cleanliness of the house and how spartan it was as well.

This!! Many women from these backgrounds don't report crimes against them due to fear of stigma or repercussions. If they get away, they're just thankful for a fresh start and leave the past behind them without ensuring the perpetrators have paid the price of their actions.

As for child abuse- it goes unreported so often. As a society, we are conditioned to mind our own business and don't seem to want to get involved. When people try to, it's thankless!

I'm shocked at how this thread has panned out.

I would like to say that sexual and physical abuse spans ALL cultures and religions.

The common denominator that spans across ALL this is men.