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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

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Maria1982 · 28/10/2024 21:38

Onesipmore · 28/10/2024 21:27

Are you really saying that your only childcare options for any event are you or your Nanny?? Don't you have friends who can babysit, once child is in bed. How energetic are they at that time of night. You are going to have a helluva dull social life if you rely on a Nanny who will commit to one night a month.

Are you really surprised ?? We have even fewer options than that. Friends who can babysit? Nope, most of our friends also have small children and I wouldn’t ask them to take care of an extra toddler so I can go out of an evening. At two they don’t really do sleepovers so they 😂

bittertwisted · 28/10/2024 21:38

Sure your nanny passed a few checks before she became a nanny

The Lucy letby comment is very childish, and incredibly insulting to the parents of those dead babies.

Are you going to vet every teacher allowed near your child!

Onesipmore · 28/10/2024 21:39

Off topic but what will you do when Dc wants to go to friends or have sleepovers? I just can't believe the only people that are allowed to babysit are Dad and Nanny and why they don't have a great relationship with either your parents on ILS

autienotnaughty · 28/10/2024 21:39

You should skip mils or go for starters and leave early (but dh stay)

I'd be mightily pissed if my dh wanted to skip my birthday

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:44

@Completelyjo my child knows my parents well and they get on. My parents always make the effort. But due to age and health issues they can't babysit (without myself or DH there - for safety). Yes, I want my parents who raised me, love me unconditionally and are the kindest and most supportive people I know, at my 30th meal, despite them being elderly and not able to provide childcare, is that really weird?
MIL is disinterested and doesn't make the effort with my child. She brings presents but wouldn't play with DC or chat to them or act interested on the rare occasion DC is trying to show off something. My child doesn't exactly jump at the chance to interact with her either, as during most of her visits she's more interested in making adult conversation (understandable!!! Not everyone loves toddlers, but it results in said toddler not being keen to hang out with them)

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Mulhollandmagoo · 28/10/2024 21:44

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:19

@Pinkissmart kind of equivalent to my husband not going.
Surely makes more sense for us to do an afternoon event with MIL and DC and then whatever they want (without me or DC) in the evening.

I think this is a fair compromise to be honest, have you put it to them?

National trust type thing, nice coffee and cake all together and then later in the evening your husband and the rest of the grown ups go out for a nice meal while you stay home with your child?

Surely if you make some nice plans in the daytime and make her feel a bit special then you've done your bit?

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:45

@RosesAndHellebores as I've said it's age and health issues. At 64 I reckon my mum could.

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Onesipmore · 28/10/2024 21:47

@Maria1982 You wouldnt babsit a freind child to enable them to go out, knowing they would do it in return for you to go out?? No of course not sleepovers when 2, that would be silly. But eventually OP is going to have to let someone else look after her energetic toddler !

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:48

@IhaveanewTVnow my dc gets on with my parents, they can't babysit dc alone though due to health and age.
DC doesn't get on with MIL because she "isn't a baby person" as she says in her own words.

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:50

bittertwisted · 28/10/2024 21:38

Sure your nanny passed a few checks before she became a nanny

The Lucy letby comment is very childish, and incredibly insulting to the parents of those dead babies.

Are you going to vet every teacher allowed near your child!

I've personally vetted my nanny. I know her as a person for long enough. She's passed my checks. Sure, nothing is foolproof but I trust her more than someone who passed an agency's checks.

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HateThese4Leggedbeasts · 28/10/2024 21:51

Can you put your child to bed and leave him with your parents while you go to your mil's meal?

I wouldn't be cancelling my own birthday celebrations but I think you need to work a bit harder to get to both events.

PassingStranger · 28/10/2024 21:52

Just stay in.
Once you start arguing/debating etc etc it takes the fun out of it.

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:53

Onesipmore · 28/10/2024 21:39

Off topic but what will you do when Dc wants to go to friends or have sleepovers? I just can't believe the only people that are allowed to babysit are Dad and Nanny and why they don't have a great relationship with either your parents on ILS

Again, they have a great relationship with my parents. My parents can't babysit DC due to age and health. DC doesn't have a great relationship with ILs.

Sleepovers - I don't think I'd ever allow. I don't think this is that uncommon these days. I know many parents who wouldn't.
Friends - of course they can go once they're over a certain age and I'm either there myself or I know the parents well enough to let them do it. Easier watching 2x 10 year olds though than 2x toddlers, no? I don't think I'd agree to babysit for a friend with a child the same age as mine, it would be hard work and A LOT of responsibility. That's why I don't think friends would do it.

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Flossflower · 28/10/2024 21:54

YANBU. Our celebrations are always at lunchtime so our young grandchildren can attend. Your MIL is being unreasonable by not going child friendly at lunch or tea time. I would never have left one of my children with a stranger when they were young. If my husband said he would not go to my birthday celebration then I certainly would not be going to his mother’s. He needs to put you first.

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:55

@Mulhollandmagoo yes! I've suggested a few options

  • we do something earlier in the day, she wants a meal so it could be lunch or afternoon tea
  • we do a dinner but in a more relaxed restaurant, where the meal will be quicker and not as formal
  • they stay for the full meal at a fancy restaurant, DC and I come for only the starters.
None of those suitable for MIL. She needs a fancy meal with me there (because she needs to see that the whole family is present and have made enough effort) but without DC
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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:55

Onesipmore · 28/10/2024 21:47

@Maria1982 You wouldnt babsit a freind child to enable them to go out, knowing they would do it in return for you to go out?? No of course not sleepovers when 2, that would be silly. But eventually OP is going to have to let someone else look after her energetic toddler !

Yes, eventually. When they aren't a toddler.

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Sassybooklover · 28/10/2024 21:55

You need a serious conversation with your husband. The fact he thinks it's perfectly acceptable to miss your 30th, his own wife, in favour of his Mum, is awful. You and your son, should be his priority, not his Mum. I have a big birthday this week, and if my husband wasn't going to attend my birthday meal, I'd be bloody upset and very hurt. You have given your MIL lots of suggestions, that she has dismissed. She wants a Grandchild free meal, and wants you attending. If I was a cynical person, I'd say her behaviour was deliberate, because she must know childcare options are limited. She's perfectly aware her behaviour is going to put her son in a position of having to choose between her and you! At the moment, she's winning, because your husband has taken his Mum's side! I would say to your husband that as his Mum doesn't want your child in attendance, then you will be staying at home. He can go to his Mum's birthday on his own. You will be booking the nanny to look after your child on the evening of your birthday. If MIL doesn't like it then tough.

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:56

HateThese4Leggedbeasts · 28/10/2024 21:51

Can you put your child to bed and leave him with your parents while you go to your mil's meal?

I wouldn't be cancelling my own birthday celebrations but I think you need to work a bit harder to get to both events.

By the time I put DC to bed it's kind of too late to go.

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Namepound · 28/10/2024 21:56

MSLRT · 28/10/2024 21:04

You’re being a bit precious. The simple solution is to do a joint birthday meal. I can’t understand why you won’t do this.

Is this a joke?!

OP doesn’t even like her MIL. I doubt women who are besties with their MIL would want a joint milestone birthday. Each party would have a different guest lists for a start…

Onlyonekenobe · 28/10/2024 21:57

Your MIL is asking you to prioritise her 60th over your own 30th. Your DH agrees with her. Probably because she’s traveled down for this.

I wouldn’t do it. I’d simply say “we don’t have childcare, sorry. Have fun with DH”. Let her get in a huff. I also don’t think it’s that big a deal (but I don’t get birthdays at all, 30th or 60th).

Can you do yours next month, seeing as MIL is already here? When nanny might be able to babysit again? I personally wouldn’t want to, but you seem to care about this.

Fraudornot · 28/10/2024 21:58

toddler will survive a few hours of a disinterested 60 year old granny" as I've said, my toddler doesn't know her well, doesn't ever go to her or enjoy spending time together so why would I do that to my child

You do know there are many things you can do to facilitate this and it will pay you back tenfold in the richness of development of your child’s social network and development of family values. I have done this with all three of my children who are now adults and have such a strong sense of family unity. It’s a wonderful relationship grandparents and grandchildren. Also I think 60 is a more important birthday than 30 and may be the last big birthday many older relatives are able to celebrate with extended family. You do sound like hard work to me OP.

DanceMumTaxi · 28/10/2024 21:58

Stick to your guns. Your dh should be prioritising your birthday. You’ve offered plenty of reasonable suggestions for your MIL’s birthday and you’ve not said dh can’t go. Why should you have a rubbish birthday just so MIL gets her way. And I wouldn’t use an agency sitter either and my dc are much older. Do people actually do this? I couldn’t relax at all.

Rainbowqueeen · 28/10/2024 21:59

I would attend MILs party but late, having hired a babysitter or asked a friend to take over once I have put DC to bed. You can easily be there for dessert and it shows willing. I'd be really hurt if my DH would not make every effort to try and attend a special occasion for my family member. But I'd also let your DH know that you are hurt that he would suggest him not attending your celebration is an acceptable option.

Otherwise DH needs to solve the babysitting issue.

I agree with posters who say you should use this opportunity to expand your babysitting options so that you have more opportunities to be social

paleblueeye · 28/10/2024 21:59

MN seems to be full of mothers who will never be MILs and 30 year olds who will never be 60. It will be interesting to see how they feel when the shoe is on the other foot.

Viviennemary · 28/10/2024 21:59

YABU. This sounds like a one off situation. Pay the nanny double rates or whatever if takes to arrange the babysitting. Or postpone your celebration to a later date.