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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
curious79 · 03/11/2024 10:17

YABU
surely you know people who know babysitters?!
If not ask your MiL to babysit for your 30th as it will allow you to join her 60th. Your DC will be ok

dontbedaft2000 · 03/11/2024 10:23

Uptightmumma · 03/11/2024 09:18

Lack of childcare is a problem if you have 2 Events and only childcare for 1. But the OP seems to think the MIL should change all the plans to suit their situation but actually it seem like their is solutions that OP isn’t willing to use. She doesn’t want to go fine don’t go but say that

No, she's fine. She's going to use her childcare to go to her own party.

And of course she doesn't need childcare for her MILs do as she doesn't have to go. She doesn't have to actually acquiesce to MIL's demands 😅

Since neither person's birthday is more important, they both get to do exactly what they want. Easy fix.

dontbedaft2000 · 03/11/2024 10:28

curious79 · 03/11/2024 10:17

YABU
surely you know people who know babysitters?!
If not ask your MiL to babysit for your 30th as it will allow you to join her 60th. Your DC will be ok

Nah. "DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and MIL is somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either."

It's not even vaguely difficult, she'll just use her trusted childcare that she is comfortable with so she can attend her own party, as she has chosen to do.

And there is no reason her husband can't go on his own to MILs party.

Easy fix.

dontbedaft2000 · 03/11/2024 10:30

ACynicalDad · 03/11/2024 10:07

Can nanny have your child at her home? Maybe both times, she may be more amenable then.

Nope, she says the carer can only do one of the nights, so she'll be using her child care for her own party, as she should. MIL can have her party and OP can just not go. No biggie.

Uptightmumma · 03/11/2024 12:58

phoenixrosehere · 03/11/2024 10:14

You mean the nanny she already planned for her birthday?

MIL can handle not having OP there. Why should OP put her birthday and child’s wellbeing underneath MIL’s wants.

OP goes to MIL’s birthday dinner and ends up having to leave because the child doesn’t settle, you think MIL will be happy?

No I mean there is other family members or friends he could ask but OP has already said she won’t allow.

both people are inflexible in this situation.

both want to celebrate their birthday their way.

someone had suggested. Nanny for MIL birthday and MIL for her birthday but OP said child won’t settle but she had never tried so doesn’t actually know

thepariscrimefiles · 03/11/2024 15:22

Uptightmumma · 03/11/2024 12:58

No I mean there is other family members or friends he could ask but OP has already said she won’t allow.

both people are inflexible in this situation.

both want to celebrate their birthday their way.

someone had suggested. Nanny for MIL birthday and MIL for her birthday but OP said child won’t settle but she had never tried so doesn’t actually know

OP has said that her MIL won't babysit as she 'doesn't do children'.

Crazymum2009 · 03/11/2024 16:45

Could you not just have your evening birthday celebration a couple of weeks earlier so it falls in a different month and nanny can babysit and then have a nice lunch or toddler friendly day out with DC and DH on your actual birthday. That way you’d get two celebrations whilst keeping MIL happy. Whilst I realise you don’t like her and don’t want to bend over backwards maybe think about your DH and be the better person by not doing the same as MIL.

KnittingKnewbie · 03/11/2024 20:33

Crazymum2009 · 03/11/2024 16:45

Could you not just have your evening birthday celebration a couple of weeks earlier so it falls in a different month and nanny can babysit and then have a nice lunch or toddler friendly day out with DC and DH on your actual birthday. That way you’d get two celebrations whilst keeping MIL happy. Whilst I realise you don’t like her and don’t want to bend over backwards maybe think about your DH and be the better person by not doing the same as MIL.

Mil will never be happy.
OP could lie on the ground for her to literally walk all over and she will not be happy.
Have you actually read the thread?
Or just the title?

LindorDoubleChoc · 03/11/2024 20:39

How can this thread still be going after nearly a week Confused ?

anonymoush · 03/11/2024 22:09

SheilaWilde · 01/11/2024 16:28

You, as the parent and mother who wants a 'special' birthday have to, at times, take a back seat.

You won't leave your DC with anyone other than the nanny so that means your birthday has to include your child. You're 30 not 8, your DC's needs trump your wants. If you don't choose this option then you have to not attend MILs birthday and deal with the consequences.

There are only two choices and whether it's 'fair' or not is irrelevant, you're an adult with a child. You have to take second place.

You're right - DC's needs trump my wants. MIL's wants absolutely do not trump my wants.

OP posts:
anonymoush · 03/11/2024 22:25

Ok so what I think will be the final update:

Some people asked how do I trust MIL so little with my child and how she managed to raise DH, how he's still alive. Obviously I was not present to see how exactly she did it but what I do know is that he had live in nannies from babyhood to early teens to help out with meals, getting to school, daily life, look after him. FIL had a successful career, MIL also worked part time but more for pleasure (her own words) as she found work more interesting and satisfying so they could afford for DH to be largely looked after by the nannies and then sent to boarding school.

Thank you for all the advice! If anyone is interested what has actually happened and what I did:
I had a chat with my DH where I essentially said that he's free to come to my birthday or not come - if he does then obviously he can't babysit on my birthday because he's out celebrating, if he doesn't want to come then I completely understand, but I also hope that he can understand the logic that if it's ok to miss your spouse's birthday then it's ok to miss a PIL's birthday since PILs are a further relation than spouse. Either way, the nanny will be covering my birthday since I'm the one who employs her, not MIL. He said it all makes sense and he doesn't have further questions.
I sent a WhatsApp to mil that essentially said that I'm finalising my plans for the next few weeks, as she knows we only have childcare for the one night of my birthday so has she had a think which of my previously suggested options she'd prefer. I also added that I've had an idea where perhaps she babysits on the night of my birthday and I speak to the nanny to come on her (MIL's) birthday instead [I knew this wouldn't be an option for MIL]. MIL took a few days to respond, then texted DH to say she's in tears as she won't have the birthday she hopes for. No idea of the discussion that went on in between them as I said it's up to DH to sort it, she can have any birthday she likes but if I don't have childcare I can't attend without my child. I can either attend with DC or not attend. Then MIL texted me back saying she can't babysit on my birthday "as it's too much responsibility and I'm past that stage in life" but she will have to think and let me know, most likely it'll be a lunch or postponed to next month.

OP posts:
RadiatorHeaven · 03/11/2024 22:40

anonymoush · 03/11/2024 22:25

Ok so what I think will be the final update:

Some people asked how do I trust MIL so little with my child and how she managed to raise DH, how he's still alive. Obviously I was not present to see how exactly she did it but what I do know is that he had live in nannies from babyhood to early teens to help out with meals, getting to school, daily life, look after him. FIL had a successful career, MIL also worked part time but more for pleasure (her own words) as she found work more interesting and satisfying so they could afford for DH to be largely looked after by the nannies and then sent to boarding school.

Thank you for all the advice! If anyone is interested what has actually happened and what I did:
I had a chat with my DH where I essentially said that he's free to come to my birthday or not come - if he does then obviously he can't babysit on my birthday because he's out celebrating, if he doesn't want to come then I completely understand, but I also hope that he can understand the logic that if it's ok to miss your spouse's birthday then it's ok to miss a PIL's birthday since PILs are a further relation than spouse. Either way, the nanny will be covering my birthday since I'm the one who employs her, not MIL. He said it all makes sense and he doesn't have further questions.
I sent a WhatsApp to mil that essentially said that I'm finalising my plans for the next few weeks, as she knows we only have childcare for the one night of my birthday so has she had a think which of my previously suggested options she'd prefer. I also added that I've had an idea where perhaps she babysits on the night of my birthday and I speak to the nanny to come on her (MIL's) birthday instead [I knew this wouldn't be an option for MIL]. MIL took a few days to respond, then texted DH to say she's in tears as she won't have the birthday she hopes for. No idea of the discussion that went on in between them as I said it's up to DH to sort it, she can have any birthday she likes but if I don't have childcare I can't attend without my child. I can either attend with DC or not attend. Then MIL texted me back saying she can't babysit on my birthday "as it's too much responsibility and I'm past that stage in life" but she will have to think and let me know, most likely it'll be a lunch or postponed to next month.

Well done OP. I have supported you from the very beginning. Enjoy your 30th birthday and have it exactly how you want it to be. Many happy returns! I loved my 30th birthday party, although it was a long time ago ;-)

Ilovelifeveryverymuch · 03/11/2024 22:42

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Overtherainbow89 · 03/11/2024 22:46

Have a fab 30th birthday!! You have handled it in a way that is more than reasonable. Do not take any guilt your MIL seems to want you to feel.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 03/11/2024 23:12

Fantastic update. Enjoy your birthday celebrations!

dontbedaft2000 · 03/11/2024 23:20

Uptightmumma · 03/11/2024 12:58

No I mean there is other family members or friends he could ask but OP has already said she won’t allow.

both people are inflexible in this situation.

both want to celebrate their birthday their way.

someone had suggested. Nanny for MIL birthday and MIL for her birthday but OP said child won’t settle but she had never tried so doesn’t actually know

Doesn't matter, doesn't want to hand her kid over to someone she's not comfortable handing her over to, for no reason. A party is not a good reason, ever, to go against your own parental instincts.

None of this matters. She just doesn't go to the MIL's party, her husband does, she keeps her carer for her own party.

Easy peasy, everyone gets what they want - except the MIL doesn't get to force anyone to do what they don't want to do, which again, doesn't matter.

dontbedaft2000 · 03/11/2024 23:24

anonymoush · 03/11/2024 22:25

Ok so what I think will be the final update:

Some people asked how do I trust MIL so little with my child and how she managed to raise DH, how he's still alive. Obviously I was not present to see how exactly she did it but what I do know is that he had live in nannies from babyhood to early teens to help out with meals, getting to school, daily life, look after him. FIL had a successful career, MIL also worked part time but more for pleasure (her own words) as she found work more interesting and satisfying so they could afford for DH to be largely looked after by the nannies and then sent to boarding school.

Thank you for all the advice! If anyone is interested what has actually happened and what I did:
I had a chat with my DH where I essentially said that he's free to come to my birthday or not come - if he does then obviously he can't babysit on my birthday because he's out celebrating, if he doesn't want to come then I completely understand, but I also hope that he can understand the logic that if it's ok to miss your spouse's birthday then it's ok to miss a PIL's birthday since PILs are a further relation than spouse. Either way, the nanny will be covering my birthday since I'm the one who employs her, not MIL. He said it all makes sense and he doesn't have further questions.
I sent a WhatsApp to mil that essentially said that I'm finalising my plans for the next few weeks, as she knows we only have childcare for the one night of my birthday so has she had a think which of my previously suggested options she'd prefer. I also added that I've had an idea where perhaps she babysits on the night of my birthday and I speak to the nanny to come on her (MIL's) birthday instead [I knew this wouldn't be an option for MIL]. MIL took a few days to respond, then texted DH to say she's in tears as she won't have the birthday she hopes for. No idea of the discussion that went on in between them as I said it's up to DH to sort it, she can have any birthday she likes but if I don't have childcare I can't attend without my child. I can either attend with DC or not attend. Then MIL texted me back saying she can't babysit on my birthday "as it's too much responsibility and I'm past that stage in life" but she will have to think and let me know, most likely it'll be a lunch or postponed to next month.

She sounds like a drama queen and very hard work. Well done on not letting her bully you into compliance.

But are you saying your mummy's boy of a husband is not going to be at his own wife's party? Oh dear. That does not augur well at all.

Happyasapiginmuck1 · 04/11/2024 09:05

You did exactly what I was going to suggest! Ask MIL to babysit for you so you can do both, she declines and you enjoy your birthday celebration!

Codlingmoths · 04/11/2024 11:43

Perfectly managed op.

Vermeers · 04/11/2024 12:18

Well done OP.

Awful MIL and your husband isn't much better.
Enjoy your birthday with your parents and keep your real family close.
Your husband is wet.
Ick.

anonymoush · 04/11/2024 12:36

@dontbedaft2000
Not quite, maybe I didn't explain it very well but the logic is as follows:
Option 1 - my husband goes to my birthday. Then we need a nanny on my birthday. Nanny not coming on MIL's birthday.
Option 2 - my husband doesn't go to my birthday. If in his mind it's ok to miss your wife's birthday then it's ok to miss your MIL's birthday as a wife is a closer relation. I don't need to go to MIL's birthday. Nanny doesn't need to come on MIL's birthday.
Either option means the nanny wouldn't come on MIL's birthday. Therefore the nanny is available for my birthday whether DH comes or not. The whole point of him not coming would be to free me up for MIL's birthday but it doesn't free me up, as explained above, so he does want to come to my 30th.

OP posts:
WiddlinDiddlin · 04/11/2024 15:03

I hope your birthday is lovely, and MIL gets over herself (or at least, stops trying to throw drama at you!).

JustMyView13 · 04/11/2024 15:31

anonymoush · 04/11/2024 12:36

@dontbedaft2000
Not quite, maybe I didn't explain it very well but the logic is as follows:
Option 1 - my husband goes to my birthday. Then we need a nanny on my birthday. Nanny not coming on MIL's birthday.
Option 2 - my husband doesn't go to my birthday. If in his mind it's ok to miss your wife's birthday then it's ok to miss your MIL's birthday as a wife is a closer relation. I don't need to go to MIL's birthday. Nanny doesn't need to come on MIL's birthday.
Either option means the nanny wouldn't come on MIL's birthday. Therefore the nanny is available for my birthday whether DH comes or not. The whole point of him not coming would be to free me up for MIL's birthday but it doesn't free me up, as explained above, so he does want to come to my 30th.

I love this outcome! You will never regret the day you stood up for yourself. Have a fantastic 30th 🥳

HappyFitnessQueen · 04/11/2024 16:03

The obvious option is just that you don't go to MIL's birthday. She's being a drama queen. I'm sure you're lovely but, honestly, she won't notice you're not there and it's the best solution. Your DH can go to that and come to your celebration too. No one needs to make any sacrifice!

Like you said, she didn't care for you being at her 58th or 59th...so what's the problem? Say that she can come round and both of you can have tea and cakes sometime, to celebrate both of your birthdays together. I think that would be a kind and generous thing to suggest!

Bellatrixpure · 04/11/2024 17:15

anonymoush · 04/11/2024 12:36

@dontbedaft2000
Not quite, maybe I didn't explain it very well but the logic is as follows:
Option 1 - my husband goes to my birthday. Then we need a nanny on my birthday. Nanny not coming on MIL's birthday.
Option 2 - my husband doesn't go to my birthday. If in his mind it's ok to miss your wife's birthday then it's ok to miss your MIL's birthday as a wife is a closer relation. I don't need to go to MIL's birthday. Nanny doesn't need to come on MIL's birthday.
Either option means the nanny wouldn't come on MIL's birthday. Therefore the nanny is available for my birthday whether DH comes or not. The whole point of him not coming would be to free me up for MIL's birthday but it doesn't free me up, as explained above, so he does want to come to my 30th.

I’m glad this is the outcome!! I was team 30th all the way and couldn’t understand some of the ridiculous suggestions people were making