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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

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Onesipmore · 28/10/2024 21:27

Are you really saying that your only childcare options for any event are you or your Nanny?? Don't you have friends who can babysit, once child is in bed. How energetic are they at that time of night. You are going to have a helluva dull social life if you rely on a Nanny who will commit to one night a month.

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:27

@BIossomtoes yes absolutely. The poster was saying that it'll be a recurring problem, I'm saying it won't for another 10 years (assuming I'm still with DH, both MIL and I are still alive and that I still can't leave DC with anyone...)

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Bettyscakes · 28/10/2024 21:27

So, why don’t you hire a local sitter but also ask your mum and dad to be there? Sitter can run around but your mum and dad are there for familiarity?

Sugargliderwombat · 28/10/2024 21:28

I can't believe some of these replies. It's your 30th! All youre saying is you are using the childcare for your birthday! Of course you should!

Sugargliderwombat · 28/10/2024 21:29

Bettyscakes · 28/10/2024 21:27

So, why don’t you hire a local sitter but also ask your mum and dad to be there? Sitter can run around but your mum and dad are there for familiarity?

All that so she cna go to a 60th for someone who isn't even willing to change venue for her birthday so that the kids can just come? No thanks!

Bettyscakes · 28/10/2024 21:30

Sugargliderwombat · 28/10/2024 21:29

All that so she cna go to a 60th for someone who isn't even willing to change venue for her birthday so that the kids can just come? No thanks!

It’s only a suggestion!

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:30

@Pinkissmart I mean... yes. What exactly is untrue?
I know she occasionally gets her sister to babysit her own children. I don't know if it's that she can't ask her sister more often, if it's because she doesn't want to ask her more often or if it's because she wants to be there for her kids more. All of those would be reasonable, it could be an entirely different other reason and tbh none of my business which one it is. I don't want to pressure her by asking why exactly she doesn't agree to more than one night once in a while, she doesn't so that's that.

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SleepPrettyDarling · 28/10/2024 21:30

Arrive at MIL’s birthday dinner with toddler bearing some flowers, smilingly say unfortunately you can’t get babysitting twice in the one week what with TWO special birthdays, and leave husband there while you bring toddler home, put her to bed, and open a box of chocolates for yourself. You’ve shown your face, you’ve saved yourself double-time nanny rates, and you’ve used your sitter for your birthday. Obligations done!

alcohole · 28/10/2024 21:30

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:17

The nanny gets paid double her normal hourly rate (which is already slightly above the market rate because I think she's great and don't want her to be tempted to leave) whenever she babysits in the evening, so yes the financial incentive is there. She just can't or doesn't want to do it.

Okay, I think you should start getting some concrete plans in place. Ie book your own birthday celebrations and nanny. Then give MIL/DH the options again and reaffirm you don’t have childcare. I think at the moment they think your birthday plans are flexible/non committal so are thinking you can change to suit them.

Helpisonitswaydear · 28/10/2024 21:31

If another sitter isn't an option, there's not much else you can do besides not attend her birthday, or attend with your child.

For what its worth I think you should not even mention you have the option between both evenings, tell your MIL you only have childcare for your birthday evening and the nanny is busy for her evening.

Your birthday celebrations should most certainly be prioritised by you, and your husband is pretty rude/unbelievable considering not attending your birthday.

wowzelcat · 28/10/2024 21:31

Sugargliderwombat · 28/10/2024 21:28

I can't believe some of these replies. It's your 30th! All youre saying is you are using the childcare for your birthday! Of course you should!

100 percent. Enjoy your 30th. Have your DH go to his MIL’s party alone while you babysit. If she whinges, too bad. Or, she can stump up childcare so you can have your 30th.

Completelyjo · 28/10/2024 21:31

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:24

"your parents could cope with a few hours of being a bit frazzled" they've said they can't due to age / health, and from what I know about them (ie a lot?) I absolutely agree
"toddler will survive a few hours of a disinterested 60 year old granny" as I've said, my toddler doesn't know her well, doesn't ever go to her or enjoy spending time together so why would I do that to my child?
"And sitters from agencies are vetted and experienced " great. I don't trust someone I don't know well. Lucy Letby also passed a few checks before becoming a midwife, right?

Wait you’re this hung up on a birthday meal out with your family but your parents don’t know your daughter well and they don’t enjoy spending time together? What a strange dynamic.

RosesAndHellebores · 28/10/2024 21:32

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:21

10 years until then, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.
She's never cared about me attending her 58th, 59th etc

As a 64 year old MIL, 60 is a bit more of a milestone than 58 or 59.

Are your parents much older, I may have missed a post, if they can't together babysit a toddler? I'm in my mid 60s (almost) and am pretty sure I could.

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:32

wowzelcat · 28/10/2024 21:25

So, here’s an idea. How about you put your child in childcare for your MIL’s birthday do, and then your MIL provide childcare for your child so you and your husband can have your 30th birthday meal. Sounds fair to me.

DC doesn't have a particularly warm relationship with granny. They've never really played or spent time together, on her visits she interacts with DC very briefly, doesn't join in play. Granny lives far, isn't staying until my birthday and wouldn't come down especially for it. There's also no way I'm driving my child a few hours each way just for the night.

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IhaveanewTVnow · 28/10/2024 21:33

I have a milestone birthday this year. I would be very upset if my child and partner did not attend. I would happily pay for a babysitter.

how elderly are your parents? A few hours with them would be fine I’m sure.

remember it’s about memories particularly with elderly milestones. 58 or 59 isn’t the same as being 60, Same as 27 isn’t the same as being 30. Just get a baby sitter and have some fun. To be honest you sound a little hard work.

DelphiniumBlue · 28/10/2024 21:34

Surely the nanny is not the only possible babysitter? You have parents, in-laws and siblings, and possibly friends too. Ask someone. Offer to pay if necessary. You say your parents ( 2 of them) are older so couldn’t cope with one toddler for the evening between them? If they’re in their 80s, that would be a good excuse but you are currently only 29 so that seems unlikely. It seems more like you don’t want to ask them.

Needtofixmyageingskin · 28/10/2024 21:34

RosesAndHellebores · 28/10/2024 20:38

Why don't you combine the two events if they are in the same week?

Why should OP have to do that? She should be able to celebrate her own 30th without MIL. They're not even that close

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:34

Onesipmore · 28/10/2024 21:27

Are you really saying that your only childcare options for any event are you or your Nanny?? Don't you have friends who can babysit, once child is in bed. How energetic are they at that time of night. You are going to have a helluva dull social life if you rely on a Nanny who will commit to one night a month.

If I put my child to bed first I won't be at the dinner because by the time I've put DC to bed, got ready etc it's night time. DC goes to bed around 8-8:30.
I'm ok with a dull life as long as I know that my child is safe. I'd rather a dull life than leaving my toddler with a person they aren't comfortable with or aren't safe with.
No, the other option for childcare if my husband.

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OrNo · 28/10/2024 21:35

I see some people on here think YABU but personally I think YANBU. For you to be included you've suggested X, Y and Z. None of those suits MIL. So the answer is you don't go. Which you're fine about but MIL isn't. It's not about your birthday at all - put that to one side as it's sorted. You have a babysitter for that and a plan. This is about MIL's birthday. There's no 'robbing Peter to pay Paul' your babysitter is for your 30th. Now what can you do with what options you've got available for MIL's birthday? Your MIL can make the decision but a babysitter is off the table. Your husband must not miss your 30th. If anything he needs to miss her 60th if his mother won't compromise. You've come up with lots of suggestions, including you not going which you're fine with. Don't let your 30th plans be affected by her birthday plans. The two are not related.

Maria1982 · 28/10/2024 21:35

Fargo79 · 28/10/2024 20:30

Stop tying yourself in knots and just do what you want to do. You don't need your MIL's permission. If she's not happy for you and the children to just come for the first hour then you just stay at home instead 🤷

The problem you've actually got is your mummy's boy DH who is prioritising you attending his mother's birthday over him attending yours! That's ridiculous.

This! Your husbands suggestion that he skips your birthday to attend his mum’s is horrendous!

SquishyGloopyBum · 28/10/2024 21:35

You seem preoccupied with the babysitter stuff on here.

The huge issue is your husband. Have you said anything to him?

Book the nanny for your birthday. Then the only option is you come with toddler or not at all. Your birthday is off the table in that regard.

IhaveanewTVnow · 28/10/2024 21:35

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:32

DC doesn't have a particularly warm relationship with granny. They've never really played or spent time together, on her visits she interacts with DC very briefly, doesn't join in play. Granny lives far, isn't staying until my birthday and wouldn't come down especially for it. There's also no way I'm driving my child a few hours each way just for the night.

So I’m reality DC doesn’t really get on with IL or your parents? Weird.

ThinkerNotATalker · 28/10/2024 21:35

Your MIL is being hideously unreasonable and childish. As is your husband.

WineIsMyMainVice · 28/10/2024 21:36

I’m inclined to say that if it weren’t a ‘big’ birthday for you (one with a zero!) then I’d probably just suck it up - but this IS a zero birthday for you too!!! Your DH needs to sort this!
If it’s any consolation my birthday is the same day as my MIL!! Luckily we get on ok but it’s still always a factor!!
Happy Birthday OP!!

Fraaahnces · 28/10/2024 21:37

When he mentions your parents - “I’ve asked. They said no.”
When he brings up the Nanny, - “l asked her. She said no.”
”I’ve given you the options I’m able to work with.”
”If you ask me to rearrange my pre-existing plans, we are going to have to discuss YOUR priorities.”