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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

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FuzzyGoblin · 28/10/2024 20:59

See if your nanny can cover the second night and make it clear it’s instead of a night in the next month or else find a reputable babysitter. Then you can go on both nights.

ThatGutsyHedgehog · 28/10/2024 20:59

Carry on with your 30th meal and present the options to MIL, then take a step back and let your husband handle it.
Stick to your guns!
Enjoy your birthday meal!

KnittingKnewbie · 28/10/2024 20:59

Go out for your own birthday with nanny babysitting.

Bring the toddler to MIL's birthday. Sit the toddler in between DH and MIL. Sit yourself as far away as possible. Ignore all child minding duties and leave to DH. Smile to yourself in the knowledge that you will never be asked (forced) to bring your toddler out again as your reasons for wanting to keep him at home become blindingly obvious to the others

Bunnie007 · 28/10/2024 21:00

You don’t have a babysitter so for your MILs birthday it’s you and your toddler or you stay at home. As if you’re going to use your opportunity for a child free night to go to her 60th instead of your own birthday and your husband is literally being ridiculous if he thinks it’s more important you’re at his mum’s birthday than him being at yours!!!! Plus she doesn’t sound like she even particularly likes you (or you her) so makes sense for you to stay home. Don’t budge on this

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:00

Completelyjo · 28/10/2024 20:58

If your parents are local enough to do dinner with you for your birthday why can’t they babysit when it’s MIL’s birthday dinner? If it’s an evening thing in a fancy place won’t your young child be asleep anyway so your parents aren’t running about all evening?

It'll be early-ish dinner and I should be home not long after DC's normal bedtime. I highly doubt DC will go to sleep with anyone except me or nanny putting them to bed.

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WiddlinDiddlin · 28/10/2024 21:02

Seems simple to me...

You go out for your birthday, using the sitter for yours. You have at your birthday, those people you want there, lovely child free evening.

You skip MIL's birthday, she's kicking off because she can as I bet she doesn't actually give a shit if you're there or not, its just a great device to be a pain in the arse over.

If MIL really truly wanted you there she'd be happy to alter the plan to involve you and child/s, she isn't doing that therefore it is safe to assume she does not actually want you there, she just wants to create a fuss.

Supermand · 28/10/2024 21:02

Have you tried asking your nanny if she’d do both as a one off? It does seem as if you’d rather not go.

If it’s really impossible, your husband should go to both and you miss MIl’s.

harriethoyle · 28/10/2024 21:02

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:00

It'll be early-ish dinner and I should be home not long after DC's normal bedtime. I highly doubt DC will go to sleep with anyone except me or nanny putting them to bed.

Why not get nanny to do bedtime then your parents take over on MILs 60th? Means nanny only there for an hour or so which should be more palatable to her.

MSLRT · 28/10/2024 21:04

You’re being a bit precious. The simple solution is to do a joint birthday meal. I can’t understand why you won’t do this.

KnittyNell · 28/10/2024 21:04

You are both entitled to a celebratory dinner and I would imagine your husband will want to attend both, they should both be important to me.
Can’t you just find a babysitter for one evening?

KnittyNell · 28/10/2024 21:04

Important to him I mean! 😊

thursdaymurderclub · 28/10/2024 21:05

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:56

It's not all about me at all - it's about my child's safety. My parents are elderly and don't have the energy or health to look after a very energetic toddler. It would be dangerous to dump a toddler on people who've said they do not feel they are capable of taking that responsibility?

Ok.. looks like no matter what anyone suggests you shoot it down in flames.. you want your 30th birthday meal, and i don't blame you but you are not going to budge for anyone on MIL's meal. So you have your celebration and then allow DH to go to MIL's meal while you stay home and babysit.. you've already said you and her don't get on, and its clear you don't like her... so problem solved. its not your fault you are 30 in the same week she's 60 and vice versa.

MangoRose · 28/10/2024 21:05

MSLRT · 28/10/2024 21:04

You’re being a bit precious. The simple solution is to do a joint birthday meal. I can’t understand why you won’t do this.

with her friends and family also? Maybe they don't all know each other well/don't get on.

I would have with MIL as she was lovely, our birthdays were 5 days apart so we often did a joint meal, XMIL I absolutely would not have inflicted her on my friends or family at all. The only 2 times I did it ended extremely badly.

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:06

Supermand · 28/10/2024 21:02

Have you tried asking your nanny if she’d do both as a one off? It does seem as if you’d rather not go.

If it’s really impossible, your husband should go to both and you miss MIl’s.

Yes, we asked the nanny and she said she won't do both. It's not easy for her to sort her own childcare due to being a single mum. We already pay double her normal hourly rate whenever she does evenings, so the incentive is high, I think she just really can't and doesn't want to

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Bunnycat101 · 28/10/2024 21:06

MSLRT · 28/10/2024 21:04

You’re being a bit precious. The simple solution is to do a joint birthday meal. I can’t understand why you won’t do this.

Really - you can’t understand why she wouldn’t want to combine birthdays with a woman she doesn’t like?

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:07

KnittyNell · 28/10/2024 21:04

You are both entitled to a celebratory dinner and I would imagine your husband will want to attend both, they should both be important to me.
Can’t you just find a babysitter for one evening?

As I said - not really.
The nanny wont do both, I wouldn't trust someone to look after my child unless I know them well, my own parents too elderly and don't have the energy for this.

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MangoRose · 28/10/2024 21:07

thursdaymurderclub · 28/10/2024 21:05

Ok.. looks like no matter what anyone suggests you shoot it down in flames.. you want your 30th birthday meal, and i don't blame you but you are not going to budge for anyone on MIL's meal. So you have your celebration and then allow DH to go to MIL's meal while you stay home and babysit.. you've already said you and her don't get on, and its clear you don't like her... so problem solved. its not your fault you are 30 in the same week she's 60 and vice versa.

Her DH is not accepting this though, if I understand correctly he wants the babysitter for MIL bday then he is not going to his wifes birthday. I think OP wants to do exactly what you have suggested.

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:08

@thursdaymurderclub I mean... I've suggested plenty of options - earlier meal such as lunch, less fancy restaurant so it's easier to manage my child or me not going. There just genuinely is no other childcare so the choice is truly my own bday or MIL's bday. And why on earth would I share my bday with MIL?

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Bunnycat101 · 28/10/2024 21:09

Look I wouldn’t cancel the birthday celebration. Crack on with your babysitter for your birthday and enjoy your evening.

what I would do however is attend the mill’s birthday with toddler in tow and if it goes wrong, it goes wrong and you go home or take the buggy and put them to sleep in it on the restaurant. They might surprise you and cope better than expected for the odd night. I wouldn’t leave a 2 year old with a stranger either and never did so I don’t think you’re unusual in that respect.

alcohole · 28/10/2024 21:11

To be honest I do see both sides of this, I think you’re both being stubborn. Sorry but it’s really unlikely that there’s only 1 suitable babysitter in this entire world. You’re just shutting down any alternative suggestions. I mean, you could ask the babysitter to do both nights at an increased cost even? She may consider it if you make it worth her while. But I’m sure you’ll tell me that’s not possible…

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable to want to celebrate your own birthday how you want, or to not go to your MIL’s if you are not close. But I do see inflexibility on both sides. It seems like there’s a tiny bit of a power struggle going on.

Tiredofallthis101 · 28/10/2024 21:13

Can you get an agency babysitter and have your parents over, so parents can keep an eye on babysitter but babysitter can do all the active stiff with the toddler? I did this once with my MIL who was worried about coping alone and it worked well. Might feel a bit of overkill with 3 people for one toddler though 😂

Walkerzoo · 28/10/2024 21:14

No way would I share my birthday event. Husband problem. Boundaries need to be sorted now.
Have a fab birthday

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:15

Bunnycat101 · 28/10/2024 21:09

Look I wouldn’t cancel the birthday celebration. Crack on with your babysitter for your birthday and enjoy your evening.

what I would do however is attend the mill’s birthday with toddler in tow and if it goes wrong, it goes wrong and you go home or take the buggy and put them to sleep in it on the restaurant. They might surprise you and cope better than expected for the odd night. I wouldn’t leave a 2 year old with a stranger either and never did so I don’t think you’re unusual in that respect.

This is one of my suggestions but not acceptable to MIL or DH because they want a calm meal of just grownups, no toddler in tow

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Pinkissmart · 28/10/2024 21:16

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:24

Because it's my birthday and I deserve a relaxed evening off childcare

Afternoon lunch with family, your husband is on duty. Then he can look after your child while you go out with your friends.

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:17

alcohole · 28/10/2024 21:11

To be honest I do see both sides of this, I think you’re both being stubborn. Sorry but it’s really unlikely that there’s only 1 suitable babysitter in this entire world. You’re just shutting down any alternative suggestions. I mean, you could ask the babysitter to do both nights at an increased cost even? She may consider it if you make it worth her while. But I’m sure you’ll tell me that’s not possible…

I don’t think you’re being unreasonable to want to celebrate your own birthday how you want, or to not go to your MIL’s if you are not close. But I do see inflexibility on both sides. It seems like there’s a tiny bit of a power struggle going on.

The nanny gets paid double her normal hourly rate (which is already slightly above the market rate because I think she's great and don't want her to be tempted to leave) whenever she babysits in the evening, so yes the financial incentive is there. She just can't or doesn't want to do it.

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