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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
jannier · 01/11/2024 15:20

MobilityCat · 01/11/2024 14:15

It sounds like you’re handling a complex situation with a lot of thoughtfulness. You’re prioritizing both your toddler’s needs and the significance of these milestone birthdays, which isn’t easy!

Given the circumstances, I think your requests are entirely reasonable—suggesting a more relaxed setting or a meal at a time more suitable for a toddler keeps everyone’s needs in mind.

You’ve also been very considerate of your nanny’s availability and boundaries, which shows respect for her role and personal life.

Since your husband and MIL feel strongly about you attending her dinner, it would make sense for him to prioritize both birthdays by splitting his time between the two, or perhaps finding a middle ground that doesn’t leave you celebrating your own birthday without him.

Maybe talking openly with your husband about how important it is to have him with you for your 30th could help him understand your perspective.

It’s clear that you’ve already compromised a lot in trying to make everyone happy, and it's fair to want the same level of effort and compromise from others involved.

I don't see compromise in suggesting others change their plans but mine are staying the same where is the compromise? If it was a man posting would you say the same?

TheKitchenSink34 · 01/11/2024 15:21

jannier · 01/11/2024 15:16

I don't get your comment....both op and mil are both saying what they want ops just 30 a bit of a something and nothing partying age that 99.9% of people reach and look forward to many more, once you hit 32 it was no big deal even to yourself ...future ones are often spent with different partners and friends. At 60 they tend to be more long term people but fewer in number just the special ones at least mil thinks her Dil is special and wants her. Dil on the other hand isn't bothered what a shame.

That may be how you feel, clearly isn't how OP feels and she wants to celebrate her birthday the way she wants to. If MIL was so bothered about OP and cared about her so much then she wouldn't be demanding that OP doesn't celebrate her own birthday with her own husband.

jannier · 01/11/2024 15:26

TheKitchenSink34 · 01/11/2024 15:21

That may be how you feel, clearly isn't how OP feels and she wants to celebrate her birthday the way she wants to. If MIL was so bothered about OP and cared about her so much then she wouldn't be demanding that OP doesn't celebrate her own birthday with her own husband.

Like I said peas in a pod.
And do all these 30 year olds still feel the same about 16/18/21 as they do about 30 will 40 be less.....the difference will be as you get older you have fewer loved ones

asrl78 · 01/11/2024 15:30

As far as I see it you have two choices:

  1. Hire another babysitter and go out for both meals.
  2. Drop one of the meals out and use the babysitter's services for the other one.

Choose one. I think it very unlikely you will get your MIL to budge. Older people can be very selfish, they think having existed on the planet for a number of decades entitles them to have everything their way and don't stop to think or care about any consequences to others.

I find it odd that the babysitter claims not to like doing it because she wants to spend time in the evenings with her own children. If that is a genuine reason then why take on a job where you are likely to be in demand in the evening? That is like a musophobiac taking a job as a pest controller.

phoenixrosehere · 01/11/2024 15:30

jannier · 01/11/2024 15:16

I don't get your comment....both op and mil are both saying what they want ops just 30 a bit of a something and nothing partying age that 99.9% of people reach and look forward to many more, once you hit 32 it was no big deal even to yourself ...future ones are often spent with different partners and friends. At 60 they tend to be more long term people but fewer in number just the special ones at least mil thinks her Dil is special and wants her. Dil on the other hand isn't bothered what a shame.

Are you sure OP’s MIL does think her DIL is special?

MIL knows the situation and could easily offer to do both a small lunch with her son’s family and then have her birthday dinner with her son and husband.

MIL and OP have a polite relationship and are not close whatsoever and if MIL was trying to make it better, she wouldn’t be demanding OP’s presence at her birthday party or at least accepting that OP may have to leave early to go home if her grandson doesn’t settle.

ArthurChristmas22 · 01/11/2024 15:34

Op I understand this position because I also only ever had one babysitting option in life and no help from any others, despite all the surprise on this thread this is reality for a lot of people.
I think you have been totally reasonable, have provided options. I would say to your DH that it is your 30th and that you are going out. However, you have presented these options (afternoon tea, daytime meal etc suggesting posh venues local to you). You could also offer to do another meal next month with MIL when nanny may babysit again. Otherwise, he must find a suitable babysitter for your children. I would consider whether typical find a 'special' event which requires daytime meal for your Mil, local stream railway lunch, the Ritz afternoon tea - that type of thing which removes the evening option - but I wouldn't give up my birthday!

DillyDallyingAllDay · 01/11/2024 15:50

Like someone earlier said, you've got a DH problem and the easy option would be for your DH to make the decision which night the nanny will look after your DC. I wouldn't be overly gutted if he picks not going to your birthday dinner- gives your a get out of jail free for his birthday and you'll see very clearly where his priorities lie and you can begin planning your escape.
You've been incredibly reasonable; and don't see why your DC isn't considered family enough to join for a bit of the meal; are there other children in the family?

Findinganewme · 01/11/2024 16:01

I agree with your thinking.

  1. you did not say that you wouldn’t attend MIL’s birthday, you offered lovely options. An afternoon tea would be very nice.
  2. it’s fair enough that your MIL did not like the options you proposed.
  3. you offered to sit out your MIL’s event, but your husband could attend both. It’s his mum. You are his wife. He should be at both. You’ve made it practically possible.

it therefore makes zero sense, why your husband should not attend your 30th, something that is equally special a milestone to a 60th. It is important for HIM to be at both, NOT you.

your husband is being ridiculous and it’s a shame that he is showing where his priorities lie, in this way.

Peoplealwaysleavemespeechless · 01/11/2024 16:04

Honestly I do think your trying to "win" in this battle.
You should use the nanny for your MILs birthday and take your DC with you for your celebration. MIL is aging and doesn't live close so these events are important especially to her son who doesn't see her as often as you see your family.
You have to make sacrifices as a parent and this is one of those times.
Missing it will upset your husband and cause more drama in the future

SheilaWilde · 01/11/2024 16:28

You, as the parent and mother who wants a 'special' birthday have to, at times, take a back seat.

You won't leave your DC with anyone other than the nanny so that means your birthday has to include your child. You're 30 not 8, your DC's needs trump your wants. If you don't choose this option then you have to not attend MILs birthday and deal with the consequences.

There are only two choices and whether it's 'fair' or not is irrelevant, you're an adult with a child. You have to take second place.

Threesacrow · 01/11/2024 16:30

You seem dismissive of your MIL's child sitting abilities, and yet she brought up your husband and he survived. Have you asked her to sit for your birthday meal? She might be pleased to be asked, maybe she holds back because she feels that you don't want her to get too close. Might be a good opportunity to improve your relationship with her, and hers with her grandson.

NerrSnerr · 01/11/2024 16:41

SheilaWilde · 01/11/2024 16:28

You, as the parent and mother who wants a 'special' birthday have to, at times, take a back seat.

You won't leave your DC with anyone other than the nanny so that means your birthday has to include your child. You're 30 not 8, your DC's needs trump your wants. If you don't choose this option then you have to not attend MILs birthday and deal with the consequences.

There are only two choices and whether it's 'fair' or not is irrelevant, you're an adult with a child. You have to take second place.

Why do the MIL's wants trump the OP's? Why shouldn't the OP enjoy her 30th as she'd planned. Mil can still enjoy her birthday but with the OP at home?

Emmz1510 · 01/11/2024 16:49

StillAtTheRestaurant · 28/10/2024 20:13

YANBU but why can't you do lunch/afternoon tea/a more relaxed dinner for your own birthday meal? It sounds like you're expecting MIL to compromise when the easiest thing to do would be to make your own celebrations something you can take DC to.

Edited

Why? Surely it’s not unreasonable for OP to want to do a more ‘grown up’ child free night for her own birthday? Why does MIL birthday celebration trump hers?

CosyLemur · 01/11/2024 16:50

So you can't compromise for your birthday but are expecting MIL to compromise on her birthday?
Entitled PFB syndrome much?

thing47 · 01/11/2024 16:55

But this is bonkers. OP has the nanny - the nanny she employs, pays and makes arrangements with - booked in to cover her birthday. There is no reason whatsoever why this needs to be changed.

Now to MIL's birthday. OP does not have childcare for this event. Therefore either a) the child has to go with OP and her DH or b) OP has to stay at home with her child. That's it. OP is happy with either option so MIL has to decide which suits her best. She does not get to insist on any other option. It's really no more complicated than that.

CosyLemur · 01/11/2024 16:57

Findinganewme · 01/11/2024 16:01

I agree with your thinking.

  1. you did not say that you wouldn’t attend MIL’s birthday, you offered lovely options. An afternoon tea would be very nice.
  2. it’s fair enough that your MIL did not like the options you proposed.
  3. you offered to sit out your MIL’s event, but your husband could attend both. It’s his mum. You are his wife. He should be at both. You’ve made it practically possible.

it therefore makes zero sense, why your husband should not attend your 30th, something that is equally special a milestone to a 60th. It is important for HIM to be at both, NOT you.

your husband is being ridiculous and it’s a shame that he is showing where his priorities lie, in this way.

If an afternoon tea with DC in tow is such a fantastic option then why doesn't OP do that for her birthday after all it's her child not MIL's.
Why should MIL have to compromise yet another birthday (because we all know a 60 year old mother with grown up children, will have compromised on most of her birthdays) just because OP refuses to compromise on hers.

NerrSnerr · 01/11/2024 16:58

CosyLemur · 01/11/2024 16:50

So you can't compromise for your birthday but are expecting MIL to compromise on her birthday?
Entitled PFB syndrome much?

The OP had booked a child free meal for her birthday and sorted childcare. Then, after this was arranged the MIL came along. The compromise is that the OP won't go to the MIL's birthday as they don't have childcare for that one.

Why should the MIL's birthday trump the OP's?

Candystore22 · 01/11/2024 17:11

you’re both equally stubborn.
you could do all the things you suggested to your mil for your own birthday but you don’t want to, so why do you expect her to do those things?
I’d also say you have a husband problem. He doesn’t sound very helpful in looking for workable solutions (but neither are you).

Wellingtonspie · 01/11/2024 17:14

Can’t believe the op is apparently selfish for wanting a child free night with her husband and parents for her own birthday because it will stop her going to her mils birthday a week later.

Anyone would think she’s banning the mil from a meal with her own child. 🙄

The one time you get to be selfish is your own birthday frankly and a night off child free I’d definitely pick someone I wanted vs a mandatory invite so it’s not an invite it’s a demand.

Wellingtonspie · 01/11/2024 17:15

I mean mils had 59 birthday dinners. Surely she could let op have a 30th birthday dinner how she wants it. Sure she got hers how she wanted. 🤪

phoenixrosehere · 01/11/2024 17:29

Threesacrow · 01/11/2024 16:30

You seem dismissive of your MIL's child sitting abilities, and yet she brought up your husband and he survived. Have you asked her to sit for your birthday meal? She might be pleased to be asked, maybe she holds back because she feels that you don't want her to get too close. Might be a good opportunity to improve your relationship with her, and hers with her grandson.

MIL has said to OP she doesn’t do young children.

Would you ask a relative who explicitly has told you they don’t do young children to babysit your young child??

phoenixrosehere · 01/11/2024 17:31

Peoplealwaysleavemespeechless · 01/11/2024 16:04

Honestly I do think your trying to "win" in this battle.
You should use the nanny for your MILs birthday and take your DC with you for your celebration. MIL is aging and doesn't live close so these events are important especially to her son who doesn't see her as often as you see your family.
You have to make sacrifices as a parent and this is one of those times.
Missing it will upset your husband and cause more drama in the future

Everyone is aging. if you’re going to use the same excuse for MIL that should go for OP too.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/11/2024 17:48

Peoplealwaysleavemespeechless · 01/11/2024 16:04

Honestly I do think your trying to "win" in this battle.
You should use the nanny for your MILs birthday and take your DC with you for your celebration. MIL is aging and doesn't live close so these events are important especially to her son who doesn't see her as often as you see your family.
You have to make sacrifices as a parent and this is one of those times.
Missing it will upset your husband and cause more drama in the future

OP has clearly said that she doesn't want her child at her birthday night out. She wants adult company and to be able to relax and enjoy herself without the responsibility of looking after her child.

Her MIL can still have her child-free celebration with OP's DH in attendance and OP will stay at home and look after her toddler.

I'm sure that OP makes lots of sacrifices for her child. Why is is more important that her husband isn't upset than OP being upset, particularly as it's her milestone birthday?

thepariscrimefiles · 01/11/2024 17:52

SheilaWilde · 01/11/2024 16:28

You, as the parent and mother who wants a 'special' birthday have to, at times, take a back seat.

You won't leave your DC with anyone other than the nanny so that means your birthday has to include your child. You're 30 not 8, your DC's needs trump your wants. If you don't choose this option then you have to not attend MILs birthday and deal with the consequences.

There are only two choices and whether it's 'fair' or not is irrelevant, you're an adult with a child. You have to take second place.

Her birthday does not have to include her child. She is absolutely OK with not attending her MILs birthday and I'm sure will be happy to deal with the consequences.

I'm sure that on every day except her birthday, OP is happy to take second place to her child. She isn't happy to take second place to her MIL, by sacrificing her own 30th birthday celebration so that MIL can have the child free birthday she wants with both her son and OP in attendance.

thepariscrimefiles · 01/11/2024 17:57

Threesacrow · 01/11/2024 16:30

You seem dismissive of your MIL's child sitting abilities, and yet she brought up your husband and he survived. Have you asked her to sit for your birthday meal? She might be pleased to be asked, maybe she holds back because she feels that you don't want her to get too close. Might be a good opportunity to improve your relationship with her, and hers with her grandson.

OP has said that her MIL has never offered to babysit and says herself that 'she doesn't do children'.

We don't know what her DH's childhood was like, but survival to adulthood by the child is the very least you can expect, and isn't the benchmark of a good parent. Most people who experienced the most horrendous childhoods survive to adulthood. I'm not suggesting that OP's DH's mum was a bad parent, but she doesn't sound as though she is a particularly warm and loving grandmother.

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