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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
Peach0123 · 01/11/2024 18:03

anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:21

MIL has never said she can mind DC, never once suggested it because she wouldn't enjoy it, DC would cry the whole time, it would be a nightmare for all.
She's said she "doesn't do" young children before.

Honestly OP if it was me, no chance would I go making an effort or the stress your having just now for a GP who cannot be arsed with her own Grandson. Especially if you attending is just for some sort of show. Just make apologies via DH and stay home with your toddler that day. You certainly already tried solutions, it's not been accepted.

Plan and enjoy your 30th OP. Let DH stay home with the little one and invite your nanny along to the meal, she sounds like a gem.

Don't get in to the habit of letting anyone including DH ( whether is for 'peace keeping' or whatever the excuse is) stress you out when it's actually a really simple situation. However totally appreciate it does not feel this way right now.

Widower2014 · 01/11/2024 18:21

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

Tell DH that if he can't be arsed going to your birthday, why should you go to his mother's who is doing nothing to accommodate the requirements of their grandchild

Mh67 · 01/11/2024 18:29

Do kid friendly thing for your birthday and use nanny for mil birthday

AndSoFinally · 01/11/2024 18:32

Would the nanny look after your DC at her own house? That way she doesn't need her own babysitter and doesn't miss time with her own kids. You could pick him up on the way home from the restaurant

HappyTwo · 01/11/2024 18:34

anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:25

@Fluufer I've already responded to this.
Because DC doesn't immediately warm up towards people he's never met - like lots of toddlers. He would need to meet the babysitter a few times before, play with them etc. otherwise he'd probably just end up clinging to my parents, who (as I have explained) for health reasons are unable to care for my child for a full evening.

Then the solution is simple - find a baby sitter he can see a few times to get used to them before the birthday party dinners.
Most parents feel uncomfortable with new babysitter last / most toddlers feel uncomfortable with new sitters. Your nanny was a stranger once too.

Conniebygaslight · 01/11/2024 19:01

All these people suggesting you leave your DS with complete strangers are being ridiculous OP. Your MIL sounds a very cold and entitled woman and it’s easy to see why your DH acts like a scared child around her. The only answer is to not go to her birthday and use the nanny for yours.
Your MIL wont like it but she doesn’t sound like she’d want to be happy with anything TBH, she’s put you in a position that’s impossible so that’s what she gets. Enjoy your 30th

phoenixrosehere · 01/11/2024 19:12

MN is weird.

OP had already made plans for her birthday yet MIL deciding to visit knowing it is OP’s birthday as well and OP has to just give them up. OP’s not allowed to have a childfree birthday with her family because she’s a mother and has to cater to her MIL instead to some posters. MIL is a mother too but can have what she wants on her birthday. MIL knew of OP’s plans and could be understanding and simply have a lovely dinner with her husband and son, but rather OP miss out on her own birthday.

I’m glad my MIL is nothing like hers.

jannier · 01/11/2024 19:18

phoenixrosehere · 01/11/2024 15:30

Are you sure OP’s MIL does think her DIL is special?

MIL knows the situation and could easily offer to do both a small lunch with her son’s family and then have her birthday dinner with her son and husband.

MIL and OP have a polite relationship and are not close whatsoever and if MIL was trying to make it better, she wouldn’t be demanding OP’s presence at her birthday party or at least accepting that OP may have to leave early to go home if her grandson doesn’t settle.

If mil didn't think Dil was important or special she would be ecstatic that she had son to herself....but on mn mils are all horride and as mothers mntrs have absolute unquestionable rights to their offspring I always wonder how they will cope when they are faced with being mils Karma is great.

phoenixrosehere · 01/11/2024 19:36

jannier · 01/11/2024 19:18

If mil didn't think Dil was important or special she would be ecstatic that she had son to herself....but on mn mils are all horride and as mothers mntrs have absolute unquestionable rights to their offspring I always wonder how they will cope when they are faced with being mils Karma is great.

MIL doesn’t think her DIL is important since OP told her MIL her circumstances and MIL still said she had to be there so not sure why you are ignoring that tidbit or think that proves MIL thinks OP is special.

I actually think OP has more of a DH problem since he has no issue missing OP’s birthday knowing she wants him there so she can attend MIL’s birthday. There is no reason he can’t be at both birthday meals.

NerrSnerr · 01/11/2024 20:03

Mh67 · 01/11/2024 18:29

Do kid friendly thing for your birthday and use nanny for mil birthday

Why should the OP have to change the plans she already made and not have the 30th she wanted?

Bababear987 · 01/11/2024 20:39

I am horrified by the amount of people who would leave their baby with a stranger. I genuinely cant understand how any parent would be comfortable doing this just for a night out? Somebody being vetted means jackshit and not a risk i would take either.

OP ask MIL what she suggests you do, be interesting to see her response. And tell your husband that if he suggests missing your 30th for his mums 60th he can sleep in another room.

Dont know how far away the parties are but it probably would be a good idea finding another adult who is able to mind your toddler incase something ever came up ie unexpected hospital visit, having another baby etc. You should have a back up plan just incase.

Wellingtonspie · 01/11/2024 20:43

Mh67 · 01/11/2024 18:29

Do kid friendly thing for your birthday and use nanny for mil birthday

Why should she have to as the parent who arranged and pays for the nanny/babysitter not get to use it on her birthday meal. For once you know not stopping every other second to wipe a face, sort out a juice. She should sacrifice enjoying her own birthday meal for a mil who basically tolerates her because she wants a child free dinner. Nah.

KnittingKnewbie · 01/11/2024 23:15

This thread is nuts.
Infuriating.
I have never seen such poor reading comprehension before or on the other hand a complete disregard for the OPs many and repeated updates.
Every suggestion has been asked and answered many times.
The MIL will not be around to baby sit for OP's birthday and even if she was, she wouldn't want to... Etc etc

I'm beginning to think all these posters saying the OP is a selfish harridan are the MIL with name changes

READ THE OP'S POSTS BEFORE YOU COMMENT!!!

Findinganewme · 02/11/2024 01:00

CosyLemur · 01/11/2024 16:57

If an afternoon tea with DC in tow is such a fantastic option then why doesn't OP do that for her birthday after all it's her child not MIL's.
Why should MIL have to compromise yet another birthday (because we all know a 60 year old mother with grown up children, will have compromised on most of her birthdays) just because OP refuses to compromise on hers.

i didn’t say it was a fantastic option. What I do say, is that it is completely understandable that OP should want a child-free, celebration of her choice on for her special birthday. She shouldn’t have to forsake it, for her MIL’s day.i also said that it’s totally understandable that MIL may not like any option proposed and can carry on, without OP. As long as OP’s husband attends both, it shouldn’t be hurting anyone.

dontbedaft2000 · 02/11/2024 03:48

Hesma · 01/11/2024 14:24

Get babysitter to cover for MILs do and MIL to cover for yours

No, she's already decided to have her babysitter for her birthday which she wants to enjoy. That's not an option in play.

She can just do what she suggested and not go to MIL's party. Won't matter. Husband can go on his own to his mum's do, and can go to his wife's party too, as he should.

No need for MIL meltdown, easy sorted.

dontbedaft2000 · 02/11/2024 03:49

KnittingKnewbie · 01/11/2024 23:15

This thread is nuts.
Infuriating.
I have never seen such poor reading comprehension before or on the other hand a complete disregard for the OPs many and repeated updates.
Every suggestion has been asked and answered many times.
The MIL will not be around to baby sit for OP's birthday and even if she was, she wouldn't want to... Etc etc

I'm beginning to think all these posters saying the OP is a selfish harridan are the MIL with name changes

READ THE OP'S POSTS BEFORE YOU COMMENT!!!

Yep, I have wondered if some of these posters lacking in basic comprehension are actually the MIL.

dontbedaft2000 · 02/11/2024 03:52

HappyTwo · 01/11/2024 18:34

Then the solution is simple - find a baby sitter he can see a few times to get used to them before the birthday party dinners.
Most parents feel uncomfortable with new babysitter last / most toddlers feel uncomfortable with new sitters. Your nanny was a stranger once too.

Nah. She definitely shouldn't feel forced to hand her kid over to a stranger for no reason. An old woman's demands aren't a reason.

She already has childcare, she'll be using it so she can have a party, and doesn't need to go to MIL's thing. Her husband can go to his wife's party as he should and can also attend his mum's do.

All sorted. Easy peasy.

JustMyView13 · 02/11/2024 05:30

Why is the childcare your problem to solve? You’ve made arrangements for your own birthday and that has absolutely nothing to do with the MILs. If your husband is so insistent on your child free attendance then leave him to coordinate the childcare.

NeurospicyMummy · 02/11/2024 08:36

Hi OP,

Totally get your position. Feels very relatable to mine too. Your parents and baby sound lovely and it makes total sense why they can’t do more. And I wouldn’t get a random babysitter from an agency either - anyone who works in that world will understand why.

Your only option is to not attend MIL’s dinner. If it’s that important to her to have you there, she can make adjustments. I would let her know with plenty of notice that due to childcare issues you will be unable to attend.

OP it has taken me until my little one is nearly 5 to realise that MIL cannot make me do anything. I compromised too often (date of wedding, wedding guests, who we saw after birth etc) and it was never appreciated and only left me resentful.

Finally, I am disappointed in your husband. He is expecting you to compromise on a milestone birthday and not his mother. Have you looked at Relate marriage counselling? You can even attend online and on your own if DH is not interested. If he’s like this now I suspect he’s like this in other circumstances too. Highly recommend you iron them out asap. We went to Relate and it was the best thing for our marriage (once we found a counsellor that worked for us). I’m not suggesting he’s a rubbish DH (mine isn’t either) but these issues need addressing with a neutral mediator.

Best of luck x

Needanadultgapyear · 02/11/2024 08:46

Do you have a friend who could babysit for MILs birthday?. My friends and I used to have a babysitting token system where we covered for each other everyone started with four tokens and you gave one for an evenings baby sitting. There was a circle of 6 of us and it worked really well. Someone who knows you and your DC and is used to DC that age.

phoenixrosehere · 02/11/2024 08:50

NeurospicyMummy · 02/11/2024 08:36

Hi OP,

Totally get your position. Feels very relatable to mine too. Your parents and baby sound lovely and it makes total sense why they can’t do more. And I wouldn’t get a random babysitter from an agency either - anyone who works in that world will understand why.

Your only option is to not attend MIL’s dinner. If it’s that important to her to have you there, she can make adjustments. I would let her know with plenty of notice that due to childcare issues you will be unable to attend.

OP it has taken me until my little one is nearly 5 to realise that MIL cannot make me do anything. I compromised too often (date of wedding, wedding guests, who we saw after birth etc) and it was never appreciated and only left me resentful.

Finally, I am disappointed in your husband. He is expecting you to compromise on a milestone birthday and not his mother. Have you looked at Relate marriage counselling? You can even attend online and on your own if DH is not interested. If he’s like this now I suspect he’s like this in other circumstances too. Highly recommend you iron them out asap. We went to Relate and it was the best thing for our marriage (once we found a counsellor that worked for us). I’m not suggesting he’s a rubbish DH (mine isn’t either) but these issues need addressing with a neutral mediator.

Best of luck x

Your only option is to not attend MIL’s dinner. If it’s that important to her to have you there, she can make adjustments. I would let her know with plenty of notice that due to childcare issues you will be unable to attend.

OP has told her MIL and MIL doesn’t care and still expects her to come and change her own birthday plans.

Definitely agree about the husband. Placing your wife’s birthday beneath your mother’s and expecting your wife to compromise after she already made plans shows a lack of consideration and respect for your wife.

NeurospicyMummy · 02/11/2024 08:52

Like I said, MIL simply cannot make her. It’s quite the revelation when you realise “oh, she can’t make me!”. I do sympathise with the situation, been here many times.

Spirallingdownwards · 02/11/2024 09:06

Seriously just ask one of your friends to look after your kids for the other occasion or get DH to ask one of his friends. You don't need to use your nanny for both.

The reality is you don't like your MIL so you are making it an issue. Go to both dinners. Celebrate both birthdays in the manner that the "birthday girls" would like .

Jem7474 · 02/11/2024 09:09

I'd set this out to DH very clearly.

  1. You want a child-free relaxed 30th birthday celebration. Those saying 'but she isn't letting MIL have that' are wrong - MIL will not be responsible for the child and there is a world of difference between A toddler being present who you can then more or less ignore, and YOUR toddler being present who will want your constant attention all evening, and for whom you will feel responsible. OP is willing to go for drinks/starters and take the toddler home if/when he gets grizzly. Not good enough fo this entitled MIL.

  2. You will be using the nanny you have already arranged for your birthday. You remain perfectly happy to attend MIL's birthday, wherever it is, but the child will be coming too, for all/part of it depending on what she chooses. Whatever the child can, no't do, nor can you. So really it is up to MIL to decide what she'd like.

  3. You would like your husband to celebrate this big milsetone with you so the suggestion he babysits for your 30th is not something you consider reasonable. And if he thinks skipping his wife's 30th is ok, just so his wife can go to his MIL's 60th - specifically without a child (remember OP has said she WILL go) - then that is a huge problem for reasons way beyond the practical. So you need a serious chat about where his priorities lie....

This is a mummy's boy/MIL problem. You sounds entirely reasonanble and accommodating.

dontbedaft2000 · 02/11/2024 09:25

Needanadultgapyear · 02/11/2024 08:46

Do you have a friend who could babysit for MILs birthday?. My friends and I used to have a babysitting token system where we covered for each other everyone started with four tokens and you gave one for an evenings baby sitting. There was a circle of 6 of us and it worked really well. Someone who knows you and your DC and is used to DC that age.

No, she made it clear that wasn't an option.

Luckily, she already has a carer and will use her for her own party.