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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
dontbedaft2000 · 02/11/2024 09:25

Jem7474 · 02/11/2024 09:09

I'd set this out to DH very clearly.

  1. You want a child-free relaxed 30th birthday celebration. Those saying 'but she isn't letting MIL have that' are wrong - MIL will not be responsible for the child and there is a world of difference between A toddler being present who you can then more or less ignore, and YOUR toddler being present who will want your constant attention all evening, and for whom you will feel responsible. OP is willing to go for drinks/starters and take the toddler home if/when he gets grizzly. Not good enough fo this entitled MIL.

  2. You will be using the nanny you have already arranged for your birthday. You remain perfectly happy to attend MIL's birthday, wherever it is, but the child will be coming too, for all/part of it depending on what she chooses. Whatever the child can, no't do, nor can you. So really it is up to MIL to decide what she'd like.

  3. You would like your husband to celebrate this big milsetone with you so the suggestion he babysits for your 30th is not something you consider reasonable. And if he thinks skipping his wife's 30th is ok, just so his wife can go to his MIL's 60th - specifically without a child (remember OP has said she WILL go) - then that is a huge problem for reasons way beyond the practical. So you need a serious chat about where his priorities lie....

This is a mummy's boy/MIL problem. You sounds entirely reasonanble and accommodating.

Every word of this.

phoenixrosehere · 02/11/2024 09:34

Spirallingdownwards · 02/11/2024 09:06

Seriously just ask one of your friends to look after your kids for the other occasion or get DH to ask one of his friends. You don't need to use your nanny for both.

The reality is you don't like your MIL so you are making it an issue. Go to both dinners. Celebrate both birthdays in the manner that the "birthday girls" would like .

Why is it so hard to believe not everyone has friends who want to watch a young child?
OP’s MIL doesn’t even want to spend time with her grandchild. If OP had that, she would be using them, obviously.

MIL doesn’t want to do a mutual birthday either so why are you making it out as if OP is the issue. MIL could easily have a lovely childfree dinner with her son and husband and OP can have a childfree dinner with her husband, parents, and sibling, if MIL would drop OP needing to be at her dinner. If MIL really wanted OP, they could all go have a small outing the day of MIL’s birthday dinner and OP can stay home with her son while the rest go out, but that seemingly may be too much for the MIL who doesn’t do young children. If OP went and left MIL’s dinner early because her child won’t settle, her MIL would be likely upset with that too.

People always say xyz is not a summons yet OP is unreasonable in this situation when she had already made plans for her own birthday before MIL.

Spicastar · 02/11/2024 09:50

Hi op, what exactly are you looking for here? You've listed the options you've proposed to the MIL, she didn't agree, so those won't work.
You've rejected all other ideas.
Do you want us to say it's ok to not go to your MIL's party? Of course we can say that, but it won't make it ok for her, it will cause offence unfortunately.

Due to my work (international academic) I've often travelled with my son (now 5yo) and I've had to do what you won't consider: arrange my elderly ailing parents, MIL, or some other relative to look after him for 3-4 hrs at the time although my parents and MIL sound nearly identical to yours. Yes it can be awkward and challenging but it's only about a few hours.

If you truly value an ongoing relationship with your MIL, ask a sibling or friend to come babysit, pay what's needed.

If you don't care about it (given you even mention you're not sure you'd be with DH in the future) then don't go but be prepared for a fallout. This is unfortunately one of those situations you can't win because nobody else cares about a toddler's schedule and absolute comfort as much as their mum (been there with my kiddo and extended family many times).

Coralsunset · 02/11/2024 09:56

@anonymoush

Why don’t you have a lunchtime do for your birthday?

dontbedaft2000 · 02/11/2024 09:57

So yeah, OP you are good not to bother going to the MIL's party. No reason for her to throw a strop, shit happens. Her son can still be there on his own.

And then you can do what you always planned and use your carer to look after your child and have a lovely birthday with your husband.

And you both get to do what you both choose to do for our own birthdays, since hers is not more important than yours and you're both adults making your own choices.

Fortunately, it's a really easy fix :)

NerrSnerr · 02/11/2024 10:20

Coralsunset · 02/11/2024 09:56

@anonymoush

Why don’t you have a lunchtime do for your birthday?

Why? She wants an adult only meal out for her 30th so why shouldn't she. She booked her birthday and got childcare for it.

JustMyView13 · 02/11/2024 12:39

phoenixrosehere · 02/11/2024 08:50

Your only option is to not attend MIL’s dinner. If it’s that important to her to have you there, she can make adjustments. I would let her know with plenty of notice that due to childcare issues you will be unable to attend.

OP has told her MIL and MIL doesn’t care and still expects her to come and change her own birthday plans.

Definitely agree about the husband. Placing your wife’s birthday beneath your mother’s and expecting your wife to compromise after she already made plans shows a lack of consideration and respect for your wife.

Agree!
He’s also failing to come up with childcare solutions for HIS baby so HE can attend his mothers birthday.

The fact is, THEY are going out for MILs b’day, MIL is inflexible on the plans & options therefore husband needs to step up, be a dad, and make arrangements for his child so that he can socialise in a way that’s important to him and his family.

OP’s birthday isn’t really relevant, they’ve sourced childcare for that date so that’s a job done. And the Nanny is unavailable on MIL’s b’day, so that’s not an option.

Uptightmum · 02/11/2024 22:20

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 21:08

@thursdaymurderclub I mean... I've suggested plenty of options - earlier meal such as lunch, less fancy restaurant so it's easier to manage my child or me not going. There just genuinely is no other childcare so the choice is truly my own bday or MIL's bday. And why on earth would I share my bday with MIL?

The thing is the lack of child care is your and DH problem not mother in laws. So she shouldn’t need to ch age her plans because you haven’t got childcare.

i Presume your siblings would mind your child if you asked? Or a friend? There is nearly always an option especially if it’s dinner and not an over night.

you sound like you don’t want to go and are unwilling to compromise

JMSA · 02/11/2024 22:46

What a lot of unnecessary detail, but couldn't you invite MIL over to yours for a lovely meal?
Surely if your child is in bed then it won't matter.

dontbedaft2000 · 03/11/2024 01:53

Uptightmum · 02/11/2024 22:20

The thing is the lack of child care is your and DH problem not mother in laws. So she shouldn’t need to ch age her plans because you haven’t got childcare.

i Presume your siblings would mind your child if you asked? Or a friend? There is nearly always an option especially if it’s dinner and not an over night.

you sound like you don’t want to go and are unwilling to compromise

She doesn't have a child care problem, she has child care and is going to use it for her own birthday party. Then her husband can go on his own to his mum's party.

And since neither birthday is more important than the other, they both get to do what they want.

Easy fix.

dontbedaft2000 · 03/11/2024 01:55

Coralsunset · 02/11/2024 09:56

@anonymoush

Why don’t you have a lunchtime do for your birthday?

She doesn't want to.

phoenixrosehere · 03/11/2024 07:42

JMSA · 02/11/2024 22:46

What a lot of unnecessary detail, but couldn't you invite MIL over to yours for a lovely meal?
Surely if your child is in bed then it won't matter.

The details are actually necessary since you missed this important tidbit:

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there.

MIL wants to go out to dinner.
MIL wants to go somewhere fancy.
MIL wants to do something without her grandchild there.

Obviously by details, no having MIL for dinner will not work (also think that OP is hosting them during this visit).

SALaw · 03/11/2024 07:49

Make your own birthday meal a lunch or afternoon tea. Don't you want your child at your celebration?! Also, 30 isn't that big a deal IMO

dontbedaft2000 · 03/11/2024 07:53

SALaw · 03/11/2024 07:49

Make your own birthday meal a lunch or afternoon tea. Don't you want your child at your celebration?! Also, 30 isn't that big a deal IMO

Nah.

phoenixrosehere · 03/11/2024 08:20

dontbedaft2000 · 03/11/2024 07:53

Nah.

Exactly.

I rarely hear anyone say that to fathers, yet mothers are guilted and/or questioned if they have a childfree birthday.

Snoopsnoggysnog · 03/11/2024 08:24

Soontobe60 · 28/10/2024 20:33

Easy - ask the in laws or your parents to babysit for you on one night, and you and DH go out for your birthday, then the following night ‘nanny’ babysits so you can all go out!

This

what a lot of drama

Uptightmumma · 03/11/2024 09:18

dontbedaft2000 · 03/11/2024 01:53

She doesn't have a child care problem, she has child care and is going to use it for her own birthday party. Then her husband can go on his own to his mum's party.

And since neither birthday is more important than the other, they both get to do what they want.

Easy fix.

Lack of childcare is a problem if you have 2 Events and only childcare for 1. But the OP seems to think the MIL should change all the plans to suit their situation but actually it seem like their is solutions that OP isn’t willing to use. She doesn’t want to go fine don’t go but say that

NerrSnerr · 03/11/2024 09:34

@Snoopsnoggysnog did you even read the OP's first post? Her parents would not be able to cope with a toddler and MIL does not want to babysit.

NerrSnerr · 03/11/2024 09:37

SALaw · 03/11/2024 07:49

Make your own birthday meal a lunch or afternoon tea. Don't you want your child at your celebration?! Also, 30 isn't that big a deal IMO

She wants a child free evening to celebrate her birthday. You might not think a 30th is a big deal but others do, and the OP wants to celebrate hers how she wants.

Why should the OP change her plans because the MIL has planned something after the OP has organised her own and the childcare for it?

phoenixrosehere · 03/11/2024 09:44

Uptightmumma · 03/11/2024 09:18

Lack of childcare is a problem if you have 2 Events and only childcare for 1. But the OP seems to think the MIL should change all the plans to suit their situation but actually it seem like their is solutions that OP isn’t willing to use. She doesn’t want to go fine don’t go but say that

OP had already planned for her birthday before MIL decided she wanted to go out for dinner. MIL and unfortunately her DH expect her to change her already made plans for her MIL.

This was not two events from the beginning. OP told MIL the issue it caused since she already made plans and MIL doesn’t care.

Posters here often say whatever event was first gets priority yet OP is supposed to just lump it because her birthday doesn’t matter compared to MIL’s and how dare OP want to have a dinner focussed on her without her also taking care of her child.

Uptightmumma · 03/11/2024 09:58

phoenixrosehere · 03/11/2024 09:44

OP had already planned for her birthday before MIL decided she wanted to go out for dinner. MIL and unfortunately her DH expect her to change her already made plans for her MIL.

This was not two events from the beginning. OP told MIL the issue it caused since she already made plans and MIL doesn’t care.

Posters here often say whatever event was first gets priority yet OP is supposed to just lump it because her birthday doesn’t matter compared to MIL’s and how dare OP want to have a dinner focussed on her without her also taking care of her child.

I don’t think that at all. Both people are entitled to do their birthday how they want to. She is 100% entitled to have birthday not child focused. But so is the MIL.

neither want to change plans again fine.

I don’t like the OP suggesting the MIL change her plans when she is unwilling too. If there is no child care for MIL meal then tough, but the OP has said child won’t stay with xyz, child will cry, no one else. Hasn’t even ask siblings or a friend if they can have child for a few hours. I get the feeling if her DH organised child care she wouldn’t be happy with it.

the post and updates come across as I don’t want to go and I am unwilling to compromise

NerrSnerr · 03/11/2024 10:03

@Uptightmumma why is it down to the OP to be asking siblings, friends etc? Her husband can sort all this out for his mum's birthday.

ACynicalDad · 03/11/2024 10:07

Can nanny have your child at her home? Maybe both times, she may be more amenable then.

Uptightmumma · 03/11/2024 10:08

NerrSnerr · 03/11/2024 10:03

@Uptightmumma why is it down to the OP to be asking siblings, friends etc? Her husband can sort all this out for his mum's birthday.

He should but she has already stated a few times she is not happy to leave child with who her DH has suggested.

phoenixrosehere · 03/11/2024 10:14

Uptightmumma · 03/11/2024 10:08

He should but she has already stated a few times she is not happy to leave child with who her DH has suggested.

You mean the nanny she already planned for her birthday?

MIL can handle not having OP there. Why should OP put her birthday and child’s wellbeing underneath MIL’s wants.

OP goes to MIL’s birthday dinner and ends up having to leave because the child doesn’t settle, you think MIL will be happy?

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