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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
FinishTheBook · 30/10/2024 08:56

Redlettuce · 30/10/2024 08:48

Or she could compromise, have her birthday celebration next month, go out for lunch, find somewhere less fancy, get a babysitter.

It's not worth falling out over IMO.

OP doesn’t want to. MIL doesn’t want to. Both fine to not want to as it’s their birthday and they should do as they like.
OP is understanding of MIL not compromising and is happy for her to stick with her plan. MIL and husband are not understanding of OP not compromising. OP isn’t the problem here.

Theres no need for a falling out. As long as MIL and husband accept that OP is allowed the birthday she wants, just like MIL is choosing, all is well. Any falling out will be because MIL and husband are having a tantrum.

LaDamaDeElche · 30/10/2024 08:57

Your birthday is an important one as is hers. Your husband should attend both and is out of order to suggest not attending yours just so you can appease his mother by attending hers. It’s also absolutely your right to not want to leave your child with someone you don’t know and I don’t know why posters are arguing the toss about this. The whole thing is a non issue and MIL will have her son there which is the most important. In her position I would understand and not want you to miss out on your own celebrations. I’d actually be quite annoyed with my DH that he was accommodating this nonsense and suggesting missing your 30th just to keep his mother happy.

Chandlerbuffay · 30/10/2024 09:00

Fluufer · 30/10/2024 08:04

She's not willing to flexible with her own birthday at all, so why should she expect it of MIL. Bad as each other.

Erm not quite. 😂 she has made arrangements and is paying a babysitter for her own birthday, which she is quite entitled to do.

MIL and DH are the ones being unreasonable.

Redlettuce · 30/10/2024 09:05

SerafinasGoose · 30/10/2024 08:51

It's crude and ill-considered emotional blackmail. Old age is a privilege. It's one that my own beautiful mum, for one, never got to enjoy. Nor was she the sort ever to engage in this kind of manipulative behaviour to bend others to her will.

As a more general observation, DiL/MiL threads are now rivalling WOHM vs SAHM and breast vs formula as amongst the most confrontational of MN threads. There's a common lament that mothers-in-law are 'hated' on Mumsnet.

My observation is the reverse. On this site specifically, younger women are often expected to put their own best interests, wishes and wellbeing at the abolute bottom of the family priority list. Men are frequently given a free pass for behaviour that's subject to the most vehement censure if a woman indulged in exactly the same. That attitude seems to be leaching over into the female hierarchy, with the seeming expectation expressed on many threads that younger women should defer consistently to their elder female relatives. They should break their backs to please their mothers-in-law and be quite happy to be treated with a complete lack of consideration or even courtesy in return.

If any group of people is 'hated' on MN, it isn't mothers-in-law. It's daughters-in-law. And it's younger mothers in particular. These days, 'Mumsnet' is increasingly looking like a misnomer.

I didn't say the mil was being reasonable by the way. They are both being unreasonable - Does it really matter that much going somewhere fancy? If i was 60 or 30, I'd prefer having my whole family there over and plan the event around this. Someone needs to compromise.

Cuppachuchu · 30/10/2024 09:05

KnittingKnewbie · 28/10/2024 20:59

Go out for your own birthday with nanny babysitting.

Bring the toddler to MIL's birthday. Sit the toddler in between DH and MIL. Sit yourself as far away as possible. Ignore all child minding duties and leave to DH. Smile to yourself in the knowledge that you will never be asked (forced) to bring your toddler out again as your reasons for wanting to keep him at home become blindingly obvious to the others

The above sounds good to me. I wouldn't be putting myself out for your MIL, she seems to want everything her own way.

Pumpkinsoup24 · 30/10/2024 09:07

Don't think a 30th is really a big thing. 40th and 60th only.

You're not a closer relation to tour husband as his own mum. They are blood related and you're replaceable as such (really don't mean to sound nasty here) but I think you need to understand why he needs to pick his parent. Can't you both have a combined celebration at a fancy restaurant and that way the babysitter only has to do 1 night and will suit everyone and be more budget friendly.

Then you can do something special with just your husband and baby.

BIossomtoes · 30/10/2024 09:08

Cuppachuchu · 30/10/2024 09:05

The above sounds good to me. I wouldn't be putting myself out for your MIL, she seems to want everything her own way.

They both do, that’s the problem.

irregularegular · 30/10/2024 09:09

I'd ask your MIL to babysit for your 30th so that you can join her for her 60th. Seems like the obvious solution, given she is staying with you. And if she is really keen for you to join her for her birthday, she should be happy to help out in exchange.

Your toddler may cry if not used to being left with your MIL, but they will be fine I'm sure. Or explore other options for babysitting eg your siblings. It is a special occasion and I feel like you are making excuses. Absent special circumstances, you really should be able to find an appropriate babysitter for one evening for your MIL's 60th. There are also reputable babysitting agencies etc

angela1952 · 30/10/2024 09:12

StillAtTheRestaurant · 28/10/2024 20:13

YANBU but why can't you do lunch/afternoon tea/a more relaxed dinner for your own birthday meal? It sounds like you're expecting MIL to compromise when the easiest thing to do would be to make your own celebrations something you can take DC to.

Edited

Yes, this. It solves the babysitting problem which is yours, not hers. You can't expect a group of adults to want to go a tea party for a 60th.

phoenixrosehere · 30/10/2024 09:15

I’m wondering why MIL wants OP there so bad considering her relationship with OP and knowing their circumstances.

If she was trying to make the relationship better with OP she would be ok with OP not attending and wouldn’t expect OP to change her 30th birthday plans.

phoenixrosehere · 30/10/2024 09:16

irregularegular · 30/10/2024 09:09

I'd ask your MIL to babysit for your 30th so that you can join her for her 60th. Seems like the obvious solution, given she is staying with you. And if she is really keen for you to join her for her birthday, she should be happy to help out in exchange.

Your toddler may cry if not used to being left with your MIL, but they will be fine I'm sure. Or explore other options for babysitting eg your siblings. It is a special occasion and I feel like you are making excuses. Absent special circumstances, you really should be able to find an appropriate babysitter for one evening for your MIL's 60th. There are also reputable babysitting agencies etc

MiL doesn’t do young children OP stated in one of her posts, hence that not being an option.

FinishTheBook · 30/10/2024 09:16

angela1952 · 30/10/2024 09:12

Yes, this. It solves the babysitting problem which is yours, not hers. You can't expect a group of adults to want to go a tea party for a 60th.

🤦🏻‍♀️

OP doesn’t ‘expect’ that. She is ok with not attending and MIL having the meal she wants. OP has solved the babysitting problem for her own birthday so that she can also have the birthday that she wants.

Bellatrixpure · 30/10/2024 09:19

angela1952 · 30/10/2024 09:12

Yes, this. It solves the babysitting problem which is yours, not hers. You can't expect a group of adults to want to go a tea party for a 60th.

Because OP has stated, she wants to celebrate the birthday childfree and has made arrangements to be able to do this.

Why should she compromise on her own birthday plans to attend her MIlL birthday who doesn’t even like her?

She has put forward solutions, MIL is being a diva expecting EVERYONE to be there

jannier · 30/10/2024 09:20

I'd get a proper babysitter.

Chandlerbuffay · 30/10/2024 09:24

jannier · 30/10/2024 09:20

I'd get a proper babysitter.

Read OP updates. She doesn’t want to leave her child with a stranger

phoenixrosehere · 30/10/2024 09:31

Chandlerbuffay · 30/10/2024 09:24

Read OP updates. She doesn’t want to leave her child with a stranger

Her DH doesn’t want to either while suggesting that she uses the nanny for his mother’s birthday and he misses his wife’s birthday.

Fluufer · 30/10/2024 09:33

phoenixrosehere · 30/10/2024 09:31

Her DH doesn’t want to either while suggesting that she uses the nanny for his mother’s birthday and he misses his wife’s birthday.

I don't think she's actually asked him. He would be horrified at the mere suggestion though apparently.

FunWithFlagz · 30/10/2024 09:34

StillAtTheRestaurant · 28/10/2024 20:13

YANBU but why can't you do lunch/afternoon tea/a more relaxed dinner for your own birthday meal? It sounds like you're expecting MIL to compromise when the easiest thing to do would be to make your own celebrations something you can take DC to.

Edited

This is madness! Why should she compromise on her birthday for her mother in law?

OP, definitely don’t use your babysitter for anything other than your own birthday. Your husband can attend his mums dinner alone. How dare he suggest missing yours.

irregularegular · 30/10/2024 09:37

Maria1982 · 28/10/2024 21:38

Are you really surprised ?? We have even fewer options than that. Friends who can babysit? Nope, most of our friends also have small children and I wouldn’t ask them to take care of an extra toddler so I can go out of an evening. At two they don’t really do sleepovers so they 😂

Why not? And in return you offer to babysit for them one evening. In my experience, that's how friendships (especially when you have young children) work!

irregularegular · 30/10/2024 09:38

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:53

As mentioned, my parents and MIL can't babysit, reasons in the last paragraph

you didn't say MIL can't babysit. You just said she probably woudn't be keen. This may be your own prejudice. Have you actually asked her?

Barms155 · 30/10/2024 09:47

So the problem with the nanny is that she has no one to look after her kids when looking after yours. Can your son not go to nanny's house and then you pick up on the way home. Or could the nanny not bring her kids with her??? All the kids play together...mini sleep over.

Jk987 · 30/10/2024 09:48

That was too long and detailed to read. Sounds like you're overthinking!

Just be positive and up front about what you want to do for your own birthday. Own your choices, you don't have to justify them.

BetterWithPockets · 30/10/2024 09:48

OP, you and your MIL sound very similar here; you’re both very clear on what you want and nothing else will do. (Fair enough, you’re both entitled to be like that.)

Her: it has to be adults only, in the evening, at a fancy restaurant, and you have to be there.
You: it has to be adults only, in the evening, and my DH (who has offered to stay home with your DC in order that the nanny can babysit for your MIL’s 60th) has to be there.

Can’t see much difference between you, tbh…

ChekhovsMum · 30/10/2024 09:53

Your husband has the DC all day on your birthday, plus the morning after, while you go off with the two or three people who care about you most in the world and who really make you laugh - friends, family, whoever, and have a fantastic time all day plus hangover time if you need it. He doesn’t mind missing your birthday, so he can miss your birthday.

jannier · 30/10/2024 09:54

Chandlerbuffay · 30/10/2024 09:24

Read OP updates. She doesn’t want to leave her child with a stranger

Wasn't the nanny a stranger once? Build a relationship with someone, get a DBs done.
Most people with kids don't have the luxury of a nanny what do they do?

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