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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
Mumof2heroes · 30/10/2024 09:54

Just get the nanny to sit for your birthday and have a wonderful evening with your family. Don't go to MIL's celebration unless she can accommodate LO. Guess what, the world will continue to turn and the sun will come up as normal in the morning. I am considerably older than you and have had a dramatic, demanding and manipulative MIL for 37 years and one thing I have learnt is that no amount of bending over backwards will make her happy or like me. I have finally realised that it's her problem not mine to resolve and I no longer do a single thing to appease her or accommodate her because it is never enough and never appreciated. Life is too short and you have already spent too much of yours agonising over this decision. Trust me I should know.

Wellingtonspie · 30/10/2024 09:56

I think you’ve offered all the options. But it appears the only solution for MIL is that you don’t get your birthday celebration.

So I’d simply say though. I’m using the nanny on my birthday as my birthday treat to a child free meal. MIL will have to pick one option and since you’re happy to sit out a grownup fancy meal I’m not sure what her issue is. She doesn’t want the child there. Isn’t that keen on you. Seems more like she just wants to ruin your birthday plans 🤷🏻‍♀️

We have also never used a baby sitter. If we need childcare is my parents or the in-laws and my youngest is now 8.

Codlingmoths · 30/10/2024 09:57

jannier · 30/10/2024 09:54

Wasn't the nanny a stranger once? Build a relationship with someone, get a DBs done.
Most people with kids don't have the luxury of a nanny what do they do?

Have a regular babysitter? Which the op does have for going out together once a month? Which sounds like a completely normal social schedule for working parents of a young child. Or, the other thing most parents do is have grandparents. Some of my in laws have never used a babysitter because they have absolute bucketloads of grandparent help 7 days a week. The op doesn’t have that, and can’t magic up healthy helpful grandparents. So here they are.

HappyTwo · 30/10/2024 10:06

Your m’n’law sounds tricky - but so do you. You think your m’n’law should bend to your suggestions…but you have every reason under the sun why you can’t find a solution!

It’s one night - your son going to bed too late / being over excited is no big deal. Especially since the nanny looks after him in the mornings. Or find another baby sitter and het them used to your son over several sessions before you feel comfortable leaving him with them.

BadSkiingMum · 30/10/2024 10:13

@anonymoush
I have sympathy for both you and your MIL, as both of you are allowed to have the kind of celebration that you want for their special birthdays.

When my DC was a similar age I learnt the hard way that I needed both regular childcare and trusted backup childcare. This came about via a job interview that I had to miss - my usual sources of childcare were not available, the employer wouldn’t reschedule and the manager was scathingly harsh towards me on the phone when I called in advance to try to discuss any options. I ended up withdrawing my application. With the benefit of hindsight, I probably should have put in a formal complaint as she was running a public service and I was in a shortage profession.

Anyway, I asked around and managed to find a good backup babysitter. She was a retired lady who had previously worked in a nursery and just did a little ad-hoc babysitting to supplement her pension. I took up references, interviewed her and she had a couple of familiarisation sessions with DC (with me present) before beginning to use her on a semi-regular basis. All this took a couple of weeks to get up and running.

She was brilliant and that initial investment of time, care and money was well worth the effort to have trusted ad-hoc babysitting in place. All in all, the arrangement lasted three years and only ended because we moved house.

Hope you manage to work something out.

phoenixrosehere · 30/10/2024 10:18

HappyTwo · 30/10/2024 10:06

Your m’n’law sounds tricky - but so do you. You think your m’n’law should bend to your suggestions…but you have every reason under the sun why you can’t find a solution!

It’s one night - your son going to bed too late / being over excited is no big deal. Especially since the nanny looks after him in the mornings. Or find another baby sitter and het them used to your son over several sessions before you feel comfortable leaving him with them.

Why does OP need to attend her MIL’s b’day? She doesn’t.

MIL could still have her meal without OP there. OP is not stopping MIL from having a childfree meal on her birthday and her son is going to be there.

Why would you want a person you don’t get on with at your birthday dinner and then be adamant that they be there?

OP isn’t forcing her MIL to do anything. She asked her and MIL said no and OP accepted it.

Why does MIL get what she wants but OP does not but more money should be spent to make it happen?

Fingerscrossedfor2021HK · 30/10/2024 10:33

StillAtTheRestaurant · 28/10/2024 20:13

YANBU but why can't you do lunch/afternoon tea/a more relaxed dinner for your own birthday meal? It sounds like you're expecting MIL to compromise when the easiest thing to do would be to make your own celebrations something you can take DC to.

Edited

Why on earth should OP change her own plans to placate a selfish old bat who has treated her badly?

Codlingmoths · 30/10/2024 10:34

BetterWithPockets · 30/10/2024 09:48

OP, you and your MIL sound very similar here; you’re both very clear on what you want and nothing else will do. (Fair enough, you’re both entitled to be like that.)

Her: it has to be adults only, in the evening, at a fancy restaurant, and you have to be there.
You: it has to be adults only, in the evening, and my DH (who has offered to stay home with your DC in order that the nanny can babysit for your MIL’s 60th) has to be there.

Can’t see much difference between you, tbh…

May your husband or best friend if you don’t have a husband skip your next birthday, and may that grant you some insight into how the op might want her life partner to want to celebrate with her.

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 11:14

Fluufer · 30/10/2024 08:04

She's not willing to flexible with her own birthday at all, so why should she expect it of MIL. Bad as each other.

The mother-in-law is effectively saying that the OP should cancel her 30th birthday plans to attend her 60th. The OP has never suggested that the mother-in-law should cancel her own birthday plans. She is just saying that she would not be able to attend an evening event and stated some alternatives as the mil was insisting she be there. Hardly the same!

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 11:17

Pumpkinsoup24 · 30/10/2024 09:07

Don't think a 30th is really a big thing. 40th and 60th only.

You're not a closer relation to tour husband as his own mum. They are blood related and you're replaceable as such (really don't mean to sound nasty here) but I think you need to understand why he needs to pick his parent. Can't you both have a combined celebration at a fancy restaurant and that way the babysitter only has to do 1 night and will suit everyone and be more budget friendly.

Then you can do something special with just your husband and baby.

I am in my fifties. I had a great 30th, as did my friends. The idea of sharing it with my mother in law is just bonkers!

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 11:19

Jk987 · 30/10/2024 09:48

That was too long and detailed to read. Sounds like you're overthinking!

Just be positive and up front about what you want to do for your own birthday. Own your choices, you don't have to justify them.

How do you know if the OP was overthinking or indeed anything about her predicament, if you struggled to read the few paragraphs of text that most others managed to get through?!

poetryandwine · 30/10/2024 11:38

Hi, OP -

I think I understand your concerns. I would not want to leave a young child with a stranger, either.

However aside from the short term problem of these events, having only one trusted childminder is leaving your family vulnerable in case of emergencies. If your DH were suddenly hospitalised, or worse, you might or might not be able to cope by running yourself absolutely ragged, in the absence of additional child care. What if you were the victim of an emergency? How would he cope?

(You’ve mentioned leaving DC with a friend, but there will likely be natural limitations on this)

I realise this probably seems unlikely. Of course it does, until it happens to you. And ‘you’ can be anyone.

So understanding that you wish to personally vet anyone who cares for DC, I think it’s past time to bring another childminder into the picture, perhaps in a couple of joint sessions at first. Whether this is in time to solve the present dilemma I have no idea.

This will also give you and DH more options generally, because you sound lucky enough to be able to afford some evenings to yourselves

Simplelobsterhat · 30/10/2024 11:40

I'd be having a very serious chat with my husband about what his marriage means to him if he says it's more important for a daughter in law to be at a significant birthday than for a husband to be at one! I would be remembering that every time he wanted anything from me frankly!

I think it's fair enough for mil not to want to change her plans to something more child friendly. After all you didn't want to either. But also fair enough for you to not go. If I've understood correctly, she'll be staying with it near you for the weekend anyway, so I'd make a big point of doing birthday cake etc with her and your ds at another point of the weekend so she cant say you are ignoring her birthday.

poetryandwine · 30/10/2024 11:41

PS I had not read @BadSkiingMum ’s great post above when I read. Brilliant!

Simplelobsterhat · 30/10/2024 11:46

By the way, I understand not leaving children with people you don't know well (although you start having less choice once they start school) but if you don't have relatives who can help out perhaps you need to start vetting / getting to know another babysitter.

We never used babysitters we didn't know, so I get it, but were lucky we had multiple family members who could do it. If all you have is one person who can't often do evenings, you might want to try and build in more, not for this occasion, as I think it's fine for you to miss it, but for emergencies, future events you really don't want to miss etc. I'd find it very hard with no one to fall back on.

phoenixrosehere · 30/10/2024 12:48

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 11:17

I am in my fifties. I had a great 30th, as did my friends. The idea of sharing it with my mother in law is just bonkers!

Exactly. Plus, some keep ignoring/missing the fact that their relationship is cordial as best, but considering MIL’s behaviour not sure to even call it that.

It is a bit off to push and expect someone to attend your birthday dinner knowing it will cause issues with their own birthday plans.

MrRobinsonsQuango · 30/10/2024 14:40

I would drop the rope on this. Continue with your 30th birthday plans -why should you sacrifice your birthday for her birthday?! Bet she wouldn’t compromise either. It’s not your fault you can’t get childcare very frequently.

LaineyCee · 30/10/2024 14:45

Pay a babysitter (other than your nanny) to look after the child. It’s what those without servants do all the time. It will do the child good to experience how the 90% live.

Goodtogossip · 30/10/2024 16:13

Your options are:

1 Say you'll go to MIL dinner with the kids in tow, if she doesn't like it ask her what she suggests you do as your sitter can only cover your birthday night out.

2 Tell MIL you can attend her meal if she can babysit DC the night of your Birthday celebrations.

3 Get your husband to ask the Nanny if she would do both evenings as it's two big birthdays & wants you both to attend each one but can't because of babysitting restrictions.

4 Don't go to MIL dinner & when she strops about it explain you suggested alternatives so you were able to go but it was her decision not to change her plans.

5 Invite MIL to an afternoon tea to make up for not joining her on her night out. Might not be what you want to do but shows you to be the bigger person & making an effort for her 60th.

6 Have your birthday celebrations at a later date when the Nanny is happy to babysit.

Barbarella73 · 30/10/2024 17:35

i think I’d celebrate my birthday with family and friends and let DH look after DC. He’s prioritising his mum over you, so why would you want him at your birthday celebrations knowing that?
You must know OP that you’re not going to get what you want with the options you’ve told us you have.

BetterWithPockets · 30/10/2024 18:08

Codlingmoths · 30/10/2024 10:34

May your husband or best friend if you don’t have a husband skip your next birthday, and may that grant you some insight into how the op might want her life partner to want to celebrate with her.

And may your child, if you have one, skip yours…

Also — life partner? Really? What an awful term.

Did I say either was in the wrong? No, I said both were very similar.

Bellatrixpure · 30/10/2024 18:41

I don’t think there was any question of OPs husband not attending his Mum’s birthday meal. Is that what you were getting at?@BetterWithPockets

Wellingtonspie · 30/10/2024 18:57

BetterWithPockets · 30/10/2024 18:08

And may your child, if you have one, skip yours…

Also — life partner? Really? What an awful term.

Did I say either was in the wrong? No, I said both were very similar.

Was no question of the dh going to his own mother’s birthday. Just the op was going to miss it.

Giving mil technically a one on one with her son. Much wanted according to most mils on here time without the wife.

BetterWithPockets · 30/10/2024 19:52

Bellatrixpure · 30/10/2024 18:41

I don’t think there was any question of OPs husband not attending his Mum’s birthday meal. Is that what you were getting at?@BetterWithPockets

Edited

I was just replying to @Codlingmoths in the same vein as s/he replied to me, that’s all.

BetterWithPockets · 30/10/2024 20:06

Wellingtonspie · 30/10/2024 18:57

Was no question of the dh going to his own mother’s birthday. Just the op was going to miss it.

Giving mil technically a one on one with her son. Much wanted according to most mils on here time without the wife.

Indeed.