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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 05:24

Of course you should prioritise your own birthday. My mum and my mother-in-law would be mortified if I gave up my birthday to celebrate theirs. Your husband is not being a decent partner. You are not stopping him from going to his mother 60th but you just can’t attend because of no available babysitting.

I cannot believe people are saying that you should prioritise your mother-in-law or that you are being hard work. How strange.

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 05:26

MSLRT · 28/10/2024 21:04

You’re being a bit precious. The simple solution is to do a joint birthday meal. I can’t understand why you won’t do this.

Really? The 30th is a milestone that many want to celebrate with their friends. I would not have wanted to share mine with just my mother-in-law! Very different events.

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 05:33

Viviennemary · 28/10/2024 21:59

YABU. This sounds like a one off situation. Pay the nanny double rates or whatever if takes to arrange the babysitting. Or postpone your celebration to a later date.

Seriously?! Why should she postpone her own 30th? She is not asking her mother-in-law to cancel her 60th plans, so why should she change her 30th? I can’t believe anybody would be selfish enough to take away their daughter-in-law’s 30th celebrations. I know I would not do this in that position, and neither would my mum.

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 05:34

Onesipmore · 28/10/2024 22:07

Holy Moly - sleepovers I would never allow? Friends I will need to be there myself, I have now heard it all !

Same here. It surprises me how against sleepovers people are nowadays. My kids are now at university, but have so many happy memories of sleepovers they had, during their primary school years especially.

standardduck · 30/10/2024 05:39

Wow, some of these replies are wild.

OP gave numerous suggestions to MIL & DH.

I don't think it's unreasonable to not want to leave your toddler with strangers (I'd never use agency babysitter for my toddler).

MIL is being precious and unreasonable. I think your DH is being unfair here too. Why prioritize your MIL birthday over yours?

I'd go ahead with your plan. Enjoy your 30th and if your MIL doesn't want your toddler at her birthday dinner, then skip it.

I am seriously surprised people are calling OP selfish.

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 05:46

dontbedaft2000 · 30/10/2024 05:11

For all the weirdos who are choosing to be triggered by this for some reason, let's clarify.

She's going to her own 30th. She's not taking her kids. Her nanny can only do that one night. That's that.

Here's what she asked:

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

And, of course, the answer is she is very much NOT unreasonable to want to skip the MIL birthday or to have one of these compromises.

Her husband sounds like a right shithead though.

Yes. It is getting tiresome after so many pages seeing people bring up the same old suggestions.

It blows my mind that people think she should cancel her 30th plans and have a joint birthday with her mother-in-law. Who is offering no compromise at all and being very selfish.

I would be so disappointed in my husband in this situation.

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 05:49

standardduck · 30/10/2024 05:39

Wow, some of these replies are wild.

OP gave numerous suggestions to MIL & DH.

I don't think it's unreasonable to not want to leave your toddler with strangers (I'd never use agency babysitter for my toddler).

MIL is being precious and unreasonable. I think your DH is being unfair here too. Why prioritize your MIL birthday over yours?

I'd go ahead with your plan. Enjoy your 30th and if your MIL doesn't want your toddler at her birthday dinner, then skip it.

I am seriously surprised people are calling OP selfish.

I think that many people on mumsnet don’t have friends or any kind of social circle. They cannot imagine wanting a night out with friends because their own lives are so small. It is weird. A 30th is a very different milestone to a 60th.

FinishTheBook · 30/10/2024 05:52

YANBU OP, not at all. In fact, as a pp said, you're tying yourself up in knots to try to please people. And these people, your MIL and husband, both sound awful. Fuck 'em and please yourself.

Enjoy your birthday.

goldenshred · 30/10/2024 05:58

Pinkissmart · 28/10/2024 21:24

Can’t or doesn’t want to

About a single parent, on a thread about lack of childcare.

Christ on a bike

It's very depressing!

Op you need to find an evening baby sitter that's not your nanny.

Believe me she doesn't even want to do once a month. Even at double.

Nosleepforthismum · 30/10/2024 06:07

Fluufer · 29/10/2024 12:22

Why don't you get an agency babysitter and your parents to come? Then you have trusted people around, they don't need to do the heavy lifting and you can get to know another babysitter. You're cutting your nose off to spite your face by limiting yourselves to one reluctant babysitter.

This is a great shout. OP, I’ve used a number of babysitters found on websites like “childcare” and “sitters” and they’ve all been great and used to dealing with kids that are slow to warm up. Lots of them have childcare jobs during the day and are DBS checked/first aid trained etc and do evening and adhoc babysitting to supplement their wages. Do a trial run as well if your nervous but all the ones I’ve had have been genuinely wonderful. My (just turned) 3 year old in particular loves having a babysitter to show off all his toys, he is allowed to stay up a tiny bit later and maybe have some treat food with the babysitter and iPad time. Basically, you just need to frame it as Babysitter = the best thing ever! It’s an added bonus if your parents can also be there to ease any worries you may have about your DC being left with a stranger.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 30/10/2024 06:16

StillAtTheRestaurant · 28/10/2024 20:13

YANBU but why can't you do lunch/afternoon tea/a more relaxed dinner for your own birthday meal? It sounds like you're expecting MIL to compromise when the easiest thing to do would be to make your own celebrations something you can take DC to.

Edited

Because there is zero reason the OP should be the one to compromise. She deserves a lovely birthday meal every bit as much as her MIL, if not more.

@anonymoush Just be firm and tell DH that he will not be missing YOUR birthday for his mummy. If he insists, then you know where you stand and need to take the steps needed to remedy that. Tell him that you will be missing his Mummy's birthday, send her flowers/chocolate/whatever, and be assured she won't melt away from disappointment.

FreshStart2025 · 30/10/2024 06:35

That’s the best solution I’ve read - ask your nanny to do both nights but allow her to bring her own children one of the nights! Surely that’s a win / win

As a single parent myself, I suspect childcare is her biggest issue.

I guess it would depend on how old her children are and whether they’d cope with a later night (if sleeping over not an option). But good excuse to not stay too late at MIL’s dinner and could leave DH there. At least you’ve shown your face.

I feel 60 is a big milestone, it might be the last one.

Codlingmoths · 30/10/2024 06:44

FreshStart2025 · 30/10/2024 06:35

That’s the best solution I’ve read - ask your nanny to do both nights but allow her to bring her own children one of the nights! Surely that’s a win / win

As a single parent myself, I suspect childcare is her biggest issue.

I guess it would depend on how old her children are and whether they’d cope with a later night (if sleeping over not an option). But good excuse to not stay too late at MIL’s dinner and could leave DH there. At least you’ve shown your face.

I feel 60 is a big milestone, it might be the last one.

Edited

There is no reason in any of the ops posts that 60 will be her mils last milestone, this is just fabricated emotional blackmail.

FreshStart2025 · 30/10/2024 06:49

I wasn’t meaning only attend as it could be the last one. I just meant life is short and you never know what is going to happen. I lost my Dad recently, so I guess coming from a place of loss. It’s probably feels a big deal to MIL (not more important than own 30th of course!) and I can understand wanting family there to celebrate 60th in style.

HappyTwo · 30/10/2024 07:18

It’s crazy your childcare is limited to one person. Ask your nanny to recommend someone - pay them to join your nanny on your birthday night for a few hours so they and your child can get used to each other and then they can babysit night of m’n’laws dinner. You are also saying they run around - why it’s dinner, it’s nighttime they should be in bed. Most people get kids ready for bed before leave for dinner
and yes you have a hubby problem

Fluufer · 30/10/2024 07:18

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 05:33

Seriously?! Why should she postpone her own 30th? She is not asking her mother-in-law to cancel her 60th plans, so why should she change her 30th? I can’t believe anybody would be selfish enough to take away their daughter-in-law’s 30th celebrations. I know I would not do this in that position, and neither would my mum.

She absolutely has asked her MIL to change her plans though.

Fluufer · 30/10/2024 07:19

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 05:49

I think that many people on mumsnet don’t have friends or any kind of social circle. They cannot imagine wanting a night out with friends because their own lives are so small. It is weird. A 30th is a very different milestone to a 60th.

OP is going out with her siblings, parents and husband. I think her own small world is the reason for the lack and fear of babysitters tbh.

FinishTheBook · 30/10/2024 07:25

Fluufer · 30/10/2024 07:18

She absolutely has asked her MIL to change her plans though.

Not quite. OP had suggested ways that she could attend, a different time, venue or just staying for a short time. She’s happy for MIL to not change her plans and to just not attend. Seems fair enough.

5128gap · 30/10/2024 07:42

Your MiL is not unreasonable to want an adult only birthday dinner. She doesn't have a toddler to accommodate, she's done that, so while it would be optimum if she picked arrangements that suited your child, she has the right not to. Just as you have decided not to include your child in your own meal.
What your MiL cannot do is 'insist' you attend if you don't have a babysitter. How can she insist anyway? She has no authority over you.
You have the right to WANT a child free birthday dinner. But given you have the responsibility for a child can only have that if you can find a babysitter. You have one, but that doesn't allow you to attend both meals.
You and your husband therefore need to decide which meal to attend. He has chosen his mother's and you have chosen your own. That's clearly a conflict between the two of you, so sort that out. No one else has any obligation here, including your MiL.
You have been given every possible compromise here, and by your husband, but the only options you seem interested in are the ones that are not open to you, your MiL changing HER plan or your husband (willingly) choosing your meal. So you need to put these aside and choose one of the compromises suggested.

FinishTheBook · 30/10/2024 07:48

5128gap · 30/10/2024 07:42

Your MiL is not unreasonable to want an adult only birthday dinner. She doesn't have a toddler to accommodate, she's done that, so while it would be optimum if she picked arrangements that suited your child, she has the right not to. Just as you have decided not to include your child in your own meal.
What your MiL cannot do is 'insist' you attend if you don't have a babysitter. How can she insist anyway? She has no authority over you.
You have the right to WANT a child free birthday dinner. But given you have the responsibility for a child can only have that if you can find a babysitter. You have one, but that doesn't allow you to attend both meals.
You and your husband therefore need to decide which meal to attend. He has chosen his mother's and you have chosen your own. That's clearly a conflict between the two of you, so sort that out. No one else has any obligation here, including your MiL.
You have been given every possible compromise here, and by your husband, but the only options you seem interested in are the ones that are not open to you, your MiL changing HER plan or your husband (willingly) choosing your meal. So you need to put these aside and choose one of the compromises suggested.

No. OP can just not attend MILs meal and and her husband can still attend. OP is fine with that.

Her husband can then attend her birthday plans because they have a babysitter.

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 07:55

Codlingmoths · 30/10/2024 06:44

There is no reason in any of the ops posts that 60 will be her mils last milestone, this is just fabricated emotional blackmail.

That comment was insane. The retirement age is going up as we are living longer, not dropping dead after 60!

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 07:57

FreshStart2025 · 30/10/2024 06:49

I wasn’t meaning only attend as it could be the last one. I just meant life is short and you never know what is going to happen. I lost my Dad recently, so I guess coming from a place of loss. It’s probably feels a big deal to MIL (not more important than own 30th of course!) and I can understand wanting family there to celebrate 60th in style.

Just seen you commented after losing your dad. I am sorry. It just affect how you view life I am sure. Hope you are doing ok.

RadiatorHeaven · 30/10/2024 07:57

Fluufer · 30/10/2024 07:18

She absolutely has asked her MIL to change her plans though.

OP was trying to compromise in different ways. The mil has not offered any flexibility at all.

thepariscrimefiles · 30/10/2024 08:00

lolacherricoke · 29/10/2024 21:50

Your responses to people are unnecessarily aggressive.
I think the reality is that you don't want to go, but your excuses are weak.
I also think that as a mum you have to sometimes compromise and so an earlier meal for your own birthday seems the way forward.
If you ate to precious and l do this, then asking your parents as a one off is not a bad thing.

Mumsnet unwritten rule: posters can be as rude and aggressive to the OPs as they like but OP must remain polite and grateful for their advice at all times and must agree that she is being unreasonable if that is what the majority of posters say. OP has obviously broken that rule and hasn't even had the manners to apologise!

thepariscrimefiles · 30/10/2024 08:03

mitogoshigg · 30/10/2024 04:03

Why can't you go somewhere child friendly for your birthday, surely you want your own child to be there???

Why wouldn't she want an adult birthday celebration for her 30th? Maybe she wants to have fun, have a few drinks, chat to her friends and let her hair down. It's difficult doing that that while being responsible for a toddler.