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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
WiddlinDiddlin · 29/10/2024 20:52

LeanneAnne · 29/10/2024 18:38

I honestly don't know why you bothered posting. You have an answer for everything and already know you aren't going to your MILs birthday so what was the point. you seem very suffocating... It's a couple of hours childcare not rocket science.

Re-read the OP then... the question was 'AIBU to either not go, or do one of the solutions I've set out here?'..

The question wasn't 'can you think of an alternative solution I haven't thought of' or indeed 'can you suggest a solution I've already thought of and discounted for valid reason'.

Pinkdhalia · 29/10/2024 21:09

Can't you merge birthdays if not just do yours.

Pessismistic · 29/10/2024 21:11

Just tell your dh you are celebrating and having a child free night and that's not changing if he chooses to not to go to your celebration that's another discussion but tell him straight it's your birthday its your choice. Its your nanny your paying extra for so why should his mum gain from this and not you.

blushroses6 · 29/10/2024 21:22

Confused by people acting as if it’s just a random birthday of yours, it’s your 30th! Definitely use the babysitter for yours and you can celebrate MIL another time or in the daytime with her grandchildren.

BonneMaman77 · 29/10/2024 21:35

Your options sound reasonable,
but if they’re not acceptable to you husband what reasonable suggestions has he come up with?

lolacherricoke · 29/10/2024 21:50

Your responses to people are unnecessarily aggressive.
I think the reality is that you don't want to go, but your excuses are weak.
I also think that as a mum you have to sometimes compromise and so an earlier meal for your own birthday seems the way forward.
If you ate to precious and l do this, then asking your parents as a one off is not a bad thing.

5128gap · 29/10/2024 21:51

In your shoes I'd do the day time thing for my own birthday so my child could be part of my celebration. I'd get the nanny to sit to attend MiLs and then ask her to sit again the following week so I could go out alone with DH. I'd do this because life is too short for the drama of arguing over a dinner. Making it your hill to die on would end up making you more miserable than giving in since your DH doesn't agree with you, and strong arming him into choosing your dinner against his preference would put a taint on the thing and be a hollow victory.

Angrywife · 29/10/2024 22:14

Putting it out there as another suggestion, do you have a spare room where the nanny and her child could stay over on the 2nd night she babysat for you maybe?

I'm with you, I wouldn't give up my birthday celebration for my MIL either!

phoenixrosehere · 29/10/2024 22:14

lolacherricoke · 29/10/2024 21:50

Your responses to people are unnecessarily aggressive.
I think the reality is that you don't want to go, but your excuses are weak.
I also think that as a mum you have to sometimes compromise and so an earlier meal for your own birthday seems the way forward.
If you ate to precious and l do this, then asking your parents as a one off is not a bad thing.

Why does she need to compromise when MIL won’t?

OP’s suggestions were reasonable and there is really no need for OP to be there when her husband, MIL’s son will be.

If their child doesn’t settle with a stranger, she’s still going to have to leave MIL’s birthday and go home. Considering MIL doesn’t like OP, doubt she is going to be understanding if OP leaves her dinner early and very doubtful she would be happy if her son did instead.

MIL doesn’t do young children, and doesn’t want her grandchild there but is pushing OP to be there. If this was a wedding, people would be calling MIL’s behaviour ridiculous and telling OP to not go.

Weird, how for weddings, it is unacceptable behaviour but for a birthday, it is not to some.

Rasputin123 · 29/10/2024 22:53

phoenixrosehere · 29/10/2024 22:14

Why does she need to compromise when MIL won’t?

OP’s suggestions were reasonable and there is really no need for OP to be there when her husband, MIL’s son will be.

If their child doesn’t settle with a stranger, she’s still going to have to leave MIL’s birthday and go home. Considering MIL doesn’t like OP, doubt she is going to be understanding if OP leaves her dinner early and very doubtful she would be happy if her son did instead.

MIL doesn’t do young children, and doesn’t want her grandchild there but is pushing OP to be there. If this was a wedding, people would be calling MIL’s behaviour ridiculous and telling OP to not go.

Weird, how for weddings, it is unacceptable behaviour but for a birthday, it is not to some.

OP is not being unreasonable OP’s child MIL’s GC should be at MIL’s celebration and a compromise would be either for MIL to go to her chosen fancy meal without OP and her GC and enjoy having her DS to herself or MIL either goes for lunch with everyone or for an early evening meal with everyone.

partygate · 29/10/2024 23:08

Get your parents to stay in your house while you hire an agency babysitter. Surely someone you know can recommend a nanny? If you really think the nanny might ‘prevent them from getting to adulthood’ (eye roll) then have your parents be in the house at the same time

Codlingmoths · 29/10/2024 23:10

partygate · 29/10/2024 23:08

Get your parents to stay in your house while you hire an agency babysitter. Surely someone you know can recommend a nanny? If you really think the nanny might ‘prevent them from getting to adulthood’ (eye roll) then have your parents be in the house at the same time

She’s explained that her child would just hang onto her parents, that her dh doesn’t want an agency babysitter either, that a new babysitter would require several getting to know you sessions. This is her dhs problem anyway, op has a nanny booked for her birthday.

Oblahdeeoblahdoe · 29/10/2024 23:15

I don't think you're being at all unreasonable. Put your foot down and tell them you're not going to MIL's meal and you're having the nanny to babysit for yours. DH can decide whether to go with you or not. MIL is being very unreasonable expecting her DS and his wife to attend a swanky meal when they have a toddler. I just can't imagine being like this with my own adult DC and DGC.

MillieBas · 30/10/2024 02:27

Your husband sounds awful. I would be livid if my partner prioritised the MIL over me. Listen, don't waste your energy on people who don't really give a toss about your feelings. Get the babysitter for your birthday. You've offered a few options and nobody is trying to help you sort it. If it was me, I wouldn't go to either. After my husband had said that to me it would have spoilt it. Go out with your friends instead if you can.

Tiredofallthis101 · 30/10/2024 03:55

anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:25

@Fluufer I've already responded to this.
Because DC doesn't immediately warm up towards people he's never met - like lots of toddlers. He would need to meet the babysitter a few times before, play with them etc. otherwise he'd probably just end up clinging to my parents, who (as I have explained) for health reasons are unable to care for my child for a full evening.

@anonymoush I would have said the same about my DC before I tried this - a good agency babysitter will get toddler to interact with them even if very shy. I was very reluctant to get the babysitter but actually it went so much better than I thought. It took a little while but my DC did warm up fo the babysitter. What's the harm in trying, just be on call and then if after say an hour your little one still hasn't warmed up you could go back.

SulkySeagull · 30/10/2024 04:02

@StillAtTheRestaurant yea happy birthday OP. Here’s your 3 year old to chase round a restaurant while you try and catch up with your friends.

mitogoshigg · 30/10/2024 04:03

Why can't you go somewhere child friendly for your birthday, surely you want your own child to be there???

NerrSnerr · 30/10/2024 04:10

thursdaymurderclub · 28/10/2024 20:42

good lord you sound hard work and exhausting.

Get nanny to look after the little darlings for your own birthday celebration and get a sitter in ( i see no reason why your own parents can't sit for one evening with your kids so that your DH can celebrate his mums 60th without it being all about you!)

The OP has said her parents wouldn't cope with babysitting a toddler and they wouldn't want to.

You think them not wanting to babysit isn't a reason why they shouldn't? Should they be forced?

NerrSnerr · 30/10/2024 04:12

mitogoshigg · 30/10/2024 04:03

Why can't you go somewhere child friendly for your birthday, surely you want your own child to be there???

She wants to have an evening out for her own birthday. It's fair enough to not want to be looking after a 2 year old for your 30th celebration.

dontbedaft2000 · 30/10/2024 05:02

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

Nope, your husband should absolutely NEVER have suggested not going to his wife's 30th birthday. Pretty disgusting actually, who's he married to?

He could go on his own to his mother's do though.

dontbedaft2000 · 30/10/2024 05:04

Pinkdhalia · 29/10/2024 21:09

Can't you merge birthdays if not just do yours.

Why would she want to merge them?

dontbedaft2000 · 30/10/2024 05:11

For all the weirdos who are choosing to be triggered by this for some reason, let's clarify.

She's going to her own 30th. She's not taking her kids. Her nanny can only do that one night. That's that.

Here's what she asked:

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

And, of course, the answer is she is very much NOT unreasonable to want to skip the MIL birthday or to have one of these compromises.

Her husband sounds like a right shithead though.

dontbedaft2000 · 30/10/2024 05:12

mitogoshigg · 30/10/2024 04:03

Why can't you go somewhere child friendly for your birthday, surely you want your own child to be there???

Nah. She wants an adult night out. Completely normal.

leafybrew · 30/10/2024 05:18

Hmm - haven't read the ins and outs of 7 pages - but I just thought - Wowzers!! I'd love to be 30 years old - what a nice age!

I have just turned 60; and got a senior railcard - which is nice. I haven't got grandchildren, but if I did, I would want them involved on my birthday. As a 30 year old who has them every day? Maybe not so much. Grin

OutboundName · 30/10/2024 05:21

Definitely keep the sitter for your own birthday! Your question was about whether you can skip the meal. I'd give DH the choice of either you come with DC for the first part of the meal and leave when they start getting antsy, or stay behind with DC and not attend the meal. Clearly a second babysitter isn't possible (no way would I leave my toddler with a stranger or elderly parents not comfortable with it)