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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
maddening · 29/10/2024 12:30

HeddaGarbled · 28/10/2024 20:32

You are right and your husband is wrong to prioritise his mother over you.

And the husband can go to both events - he doesn't even have to choose

Sofaspot · 29/10/2024 12:32

A demonstration of how everyone is different. I can't imagine doing either of those celebrations without my 3yo, but as MIL doesn't want her at hers (are you sure that's not your spin on it?) I think you all (you and Dh) decline that invitation and arrange to do something else to mark MIL's birthday during the day.

Chandlerbuffay · 29/10/2024 12:35

@Fluufer @BIossomtoes yes I appreciate that nursery staff are strangers at first. However, I would think in the majority of new starters, there would be a few settling in sessions and the parent(s) and child would meet the staff first so at least there is going to be familiarity between staff and child, and confidence for the parents. That’s what happened when my children started childcare settings

Different to a random unknown (yes I know, vetted) person turning up at your door for the first time to do bath and bedtime. I know some people are happy to do this and that’s fine, but I wouldn’t be comfortable and it seems @anonymoush wouldn’t be either. And that is her right as a parent

Fluufer · 29/10/2024 12:37

Chandlerbuffay · 29/10/2024 12:35

@Fluufer @BIossomtoes yes I appreciate that nursery staff are strangers at first. However, I would think in the majority of new starters, there would be a few settling in sessions and the parent(s) and child would meet the staff first so at least there is going to be familiarity between staff and child, and confidence for the parents. That’s what happened when my children started childcare settings

Different to a random unknown (yes I know, vetted) person turning up at your door for the first time to do bath and bedtime. I know some people are happy to do this and that’s fine, but I wouldn’t be comfortable and it seems @anonymoush wouldn’t be either. And that is her right as a parent

Who says they have to turn up for the first time to do bath and bedtime? Presumably it's not a complete surprise birthday tomorrow?

Allfur · 29/10/2024 12:42

anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:19

My husband would not leave DC with an agency sitter either. He would be horrified if I suggested it.

He understands my parents' health condition and agrees it would be dangerous to leave them alone, especially as my parents said they do not feel capable of doing it.

Horrified? Such hyperbole

Itisjustmyopinion · 29/10/2024 13:17

Sometimes I read threads on MN and think I must live in a different world as in mine we babysit friends kids (without having to go through full disclosure checks), we use agencies and/or nursery staff wanting to make a few extra £££. Plus kids have sleepovers with each other all the time from school age

Not saying one way is better than another as people have their reasons but it just seems so restrictive to me, especially to celebrate milestone birthdays. And the LL comment was a low blow OP

I think the only thing the MIL has done wrong is insist OP needs to be there. I don’t think she is unreasonable to want a child free evening meal.

IreneGoodnight · 29/10/2024 13:27

Apologies if this has already been suggested OP but would your nanny do a second evening session if she could bring her own children with her, just on that occasion?
You could provide lovely food, drink and some fun films or games for everyone to enjoy.
You could also provide return transport - by taxi if necessary - or maybe the whole family could bunk down at your place overnight if her kids are tiny and likely to doze off?
The kids might have a real giggle together.
Anyway, it's just a thought.

Sofaspot · 29/10/2024 13:27

Is there a reason nanny can't babysit in an evening with her own child present, either at your house or hers?

Although really, you just need to be honest and admit you're putting up barriers because you don't want to go to MIL's birthday. In this situation I'd "sacrifice" my 30th birthday and do something different or at another time, rather than any 60 yo's I cared about, but you obviously don't, so admit it.

BerlinSky · 29/10/2024 13:27

StillAtTheRestaurant · 28/10/2024 20:13

YANBU but why can't you do lunch/afternoon tea/a more relaxed dinner for your own birthday meal? It sounds like you're expecting MIL to compromise when the easiest thing to do would be to make your own celebrations something you can take DC to.

Edited

Because her birthday is just as important and she shouldn't have to compromise either?

wowzelcat · 29/10/2024 13:31

anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:21

MIL has never said she can mind DC, never once suggested it because she wouldn't enjoy it, DC would cry the whole time, it would be a nightmare for all.
She's said she "doesn't do" young children before.

Well, you don't go to her party then. Send your husband to her do, and you and your husband enjoy your 30th birthday and have the nanny babysite. In fact, if your MIL doesn't 'do' young children, then I wouldn't bother bringing them to see her. If she doesn't like your kids or want to ever be around them, that's her choice, but you don't have to turn your life upside down to accommodate her request.

bittertwisted · 29/10/2024 13:31

Itisjustmyopinion · 29/10/2024 13:17

Sometimes I read threads on MN and think I must live in a different world as in mine we babysit friends kids (without having to go through full disclosure checks), we use agencies and/or nursery staff wanting to make a few extra £££. Plus kids have sleepovers with each other all the time from school age

Not saying one way is better than another as people have their reasons but it just seems so restrictive to me, especially to celebrate milestone birthdays. And the LL comment was a low blow OP

I think the only thing the MIL has done wrong is insist OP needs to be there. I don’t think she is unreasonable to want a child free evening meal.

The LL comment has enraged me
I am from Chester, all my boys were born in the Countess

Should we not allow our children to go in to hospital because of the minuscule risk of rogue staff?

I'm afraid the OP looks down on you, and your quite normal risk assessment for your children's safety

She is a far superior parent, finding the danger in everything

However it seems her 3 year old can't sit and play a game or read a book for a few hours with his grandparents, too lively and unruly. All 3 of my boys could, including the autistic one, so maybe I'm not that bad after all

Amyknows · 29/10/2024 13:36

She sounds awful and spoilt. She cares about image then. I wouldn't be making any grand effort to do what she wants. But then the crux of the problem is your dh. He's being really , really shit to you saying he won't come to yours. That's a man you want to be married to?
Surely your birthday trumps his mother's if you have one night of childcare?
I would be seriously rethinking if someone treated me as second best or made choices to spite me.

Bellatrixpure · 29/10/2024 14:00

bittertwisted · 29/10/2024 13:31

The LL comment has enraged me
I am from Chester, all my boys were born in the Countess

Should we not allow our children to go in to hospital because of the minuscule risk of rogue staff?

I'm afraid the OP looks down on you, and your quite normal risk assessment for your children's safety

She is a far superior parent, finding the danger in everything

However it seems her 3 year old can't sit and play a game or read a book for a few hours with his grandparents, too lively and unruly. All 3 of my boys could, including the autistic one, so maybe I'm not that bad after all

You’ve twisted what OP has said a lot there. She is quite entitled not to want to leave her child with agency staff

thing47 · 29/10/2024 14:24

Speaking as someone who didn't hesitate to leave my DCs with friends' teenage daughters babysitting I do find OP's reluctance to even countenance the idea of an 'unknown' babysitter quite odd. But she is the toddler's mother, this is an opinion she is entitled to hold and as her DH is in full agreement then no one else's opinion actually matters here. The couple have decided that is their stance.

Given that, MIL can either have both of them at her party, or neither. @anonymoush is happy with either option – she makes that perfectly clear in her opening post – so that's the choice which faces MIL. She can't make demands that OP choices another option, because OP isn't going to and people don't get to make those sorts of demands of other adults. It's as simple as that really.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/10/2024 14:27

bittertwisted · 29/10/2024 13:31

The LL comment has enraged me
I am from Chester, all my boys were born in the Countess

Should we not allow our children to go in to hospital because of the minuscule risk of rogue staff?

I'm afraid the OP looks down on you, and your quite normal risk assessment for your children's safety

She is a far superior parent, finding the danger in everything

However it seems her 3 year old can't sit and play a game or read a book for a few hours with his grandparents, too lively and unruly. All 3 of my boys could, including the autistic one, so maybe I'm not that bad after all

I'm not sure why you are taking this so personally. The OP isn't talking about not taking her sick child to hospital which I am sure she would do. She is talking about leaving her child with a stranger (albeit a trained and vetted nanny) to attend a social occasion, which she doesn't want to do as this is a risk she can mitigate. Just because someone does something differently from you, it doesn't mean that she is saying that your choices are wrong.

You are criticising her 3 year old and comparing him to your children, which is unfair. The OP isn't saying that you are a bad mother at all.

another1bitestheduck · 29/10/2024 14:42

Two options
Either you reiterate to MIL all of the many options you have outlined here (can include the ones you know she won't go for and you don't want like her babysitting your dc on your birthday so you appear even more reasonable) and tell her to either pick one or accept you can't come (but dh will) - ball in her court. Put it in a text message so you can keep referring back to it.

Then any further comments "MIL we have tried to be as accommodating as possible, we've given you 5 options, you're the one refusing to pick any," and repeat. She says "but I really want you all there" "Yes and we want to come so let us know which of those options work for you" "but I want it to be an adult only event" "of course that's your choice so let us know which of those options work for you" "I want it to be in the evening" "yes that's fine, let us know which of the options work best to allow that." Etc.

Or avoid all the aggros lie to her "yep mil babysitter all sorted" and then at last minute "can you believe it babysitter cancelled/ive come down with a stomach bug, what a shame! I'm gutted to have to miss it."

As per the MN mantra though you have a dh problem as well as a MIL one if he genuinely offered to go to his mother's bday and skip yours! That would really piss me off!

RhiWrites · 29/10/2024 16:06

anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:25

@Fluufer I've already responded to this.
Because DC doesn't immediately warm up towards people he's never met - like lots of toddlers. He would need to meet the babysitter a few times before, play with them etc. otherwise he'd probably just end up clinging to my parents, who (as I have explained) for health reasons are unable to care for my child for a full evening.

I completely get your problem for this event. There isn’t time to find another babysitter.

However I suggest you work on finding one. Maybe the nanny can recommend some friends and you meet them, or find an agency sitter and do a couple of play dates with you present to establish a relationship with your kids.

Having only one viable babysitting option limits you so much. For the future I would work on finding more.

user1478112490 · 29/10/2024 18:03

Can't you get your toddler to sleep and then go out and your parents or mil could babysit? Presumably if it's your 30th your parents aren't much older than 60-mid 70's and if the child is asleep there hopefully won't be too much to do?

exaltedwombat · 29/10/2024 18:28

Look harder for an alternative baby sitter.

LeanneAnne · 29/10/2024 18:38

I honestly don't know why you bothered posting. You have an answer for everything and already know you aren't going to your MILs birthday so what was the point. you seem very suffocating... It's a couple of hours childcare not rocket science.

pineapplesundae · 29/10/2024 19:38

Ask the nanny if she can recommend someone to watch toddler on one of the birthdays. Check with a neighbor that you’re on good terms with. Plan an overnight with husband to celebrate both your birthdays since you’re the same age. Figure it out! Thirty is a milestone birthday but after sixty, you don’t know how many more there will be. The same with thirty but the odds are in your favor.

phoenixrosehere · 29/10/2024 19:40

It’s ridiculous how many think OP should bend over backwards and leave her child with a stranger for her MIL who doesn’t even like her and isn’t interested in her grandchild.

Wonder why she really wants OP there in the first place.

vodkacat · 29/10/2024 20:27

It’s your 30th book the babysitter for that. Arrange a tea party at your house the afternoon of her bday so the child can attend. Let them go out in evening. Don’t negotiate. You’re only 30 once.
don’t get a random sitter why should you.

WillimNot · 29/10/2024 20:39

You know what @anonymoush it's just so unfortunate that DC is poorly and can't be left on the day isn't it? 😉

And yes, this was a tactic I've used with In laws because they are entitled feckers who don't care about myself or my children (me, I don't care, my kids, that's a different matter).

dapsnotplimsolls · 29/10/2024 20:46

I can't believe posters are still coming up with 'helpful' suggestions. Just don't go. And tell your DH to stop being such an arse.