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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
Allfur · 29/10/2024 10:02

Fluufer · 29/10/2024 09:53

You obviously just don't like your MIL and don't want to go. So just say so.
Personally I would find another babysitter. You're going to get sick of having only one unwilling babysitter sooner or later.

She can't get another babysitter because they might be a grave danger to the child, or the chikd might get scared. Over blown fears and inflexibility.

Cherrysoup · 29/10/2024 10:08

I’d put down my foot and insist on an afternoon outing somewhere for mil’s birthday. Why is she coming to yours for her birthday and you’re not going to her?

As an aside, as a language teacher, are you speaking your native language to the toddler and does your dh speak it? I was friends with a colleague who learned Welsh (not her mother tongue, although she was Welsh) and used it exclusively at home . I admired her persistence!

Rocknrollstar · 29/10/2024 10:17

Think ahead - how will you feel as a MiL if your DiL doesn’t attend your birthday party?

BIossomtoes · 29/10/2024 10:35

I’d put down my foot and insist on an afternoon outing somewhere for mil’s birthday.

How’s that work? You can’t insist another adult does anything. Mil’s as entitled to a grown up evening birthday celebration as her Dil.

Bellatrixpure · 29/10/2024 10:46

Rocknrollstar · 29/10/2024 10:17

Think ahead - how will you feel as a MiL if your DiL doesn’t attend your birthday party?

i probably wouldn’t care as much as if my HUSBAND didn’t want to come to an important birthday to be honest

Fluufer · 29/10/2024 10:48

OP how does your DH feel about the strict babysitter situation? You've gone on about how you don't want another babysitter, but what does he think? Is his response a reaction to you refusing to leave the child with anyone else?

OrangeRhymesWith · 29/10/2024 10:54

It's obvious you don't really want to go to mil's thing and that's fine but i can see her and your husbands annoyance at how you have an answer for everything except you or the nanny being with the child.

Sorry but there are times when your child will have to be in the care of people who are less interested or enthusiastic about him than you are.

If MIL has said she can mind him for your birthday let her, they may suprise you.

Likewise your parents may be fine either night - if it's your birthday, tell them they can call your husband and he can leave put the baby to bed and come back or just leave early, and the same but with you on call if it's for your MIL birthday. I mean you can stay just for the meal even - what would it be 3.5/4 hours?

it seems disingenuous to say there's no other childcare when there is. It's just not the childcare you think is good enough

Chandlerbuffay · 29/10/2024 10:58

@anonymoush I wouldn’t want a stranger looking after my toddler either. I don’t know anyone who does this. Surprised so many people on here use professional babysitters

BIossomtoes · 29/10/2024 11:02

Chandlerbuffay · 29/10/2024 10:58

@anonymoush I wouldn’t want a stranger looking after my toddler either. I don’t know anyone who does this. Surprised so many people on here use professional babysitters

Most people’s toddlers are looked after strangers most of the time. They go to nursery five days a week to be looked after by professional babysitters.

Fluufer · 29/10/2024 11:03

Chandlerbuffay · 29/10/2024 10:58

@anonymoush I wouldn’t want a stranger looking after my toddler either. I don’t know anyone who does this. Surprised so many people on here use professional babysitters

Everyone is a stranger at first. Most people also leave their kids with strangers at nursery and school, not a nanny. Why is a professional, vetted babysitter any different?

thepariscrimefiles · 29/10/2024 11:05

Tink3rbell30 · 29/10/2024 08:32

Yes but if he's not bothered why would you would be this awkward and insist he comes when he isn't bothered about being there?

If her DH isn't bothered about attending his wife's birthday, why on earth should she be bothered about attending her MIL's birthday?

Tink3rbell30 · 29/10/2024 11:31

thepariscrimefiles · 29/10/2024 11:05

If her DH isn't bothered about attending his wife's birthday, why on earth should she be bothered about attending her MIL's birthday?

In that case, she can go out for hers without DH as he isn't arsed about being there and doesn't sound like he's that interested in going and DH can go alone to MIL's then.

StaunchMomma · 29/10/2024 11:46

I can't believe how much stick you're getting here for not using a random babysitting service, OP.

My child has never been left with a random and never will. You're not a bad person for prioritising your child over other people's evening plans.

You're also not a bad person for wanting to celebrate your own birthday milestone rather that prioritise the wants of a woman you don't even get on with, MIL or not.

I'd be seriously pissed with DH in your shoes. Does he always pander to his Mum?

bittertwisted · 29/10/2024 11:54

StaunchMomma · 29/10/2024 11:46

I can't believe how much stick you're getting here for not using a random babysitting service, OP.

My child has never been left with a random and never will. You're not a bad person for prioritising your child over other people's evening plans.

You're also not a bad person for wanting to celebrate your own birthday milestone rather that prioritise the wants of a woman you don't even get on with, MIL or not.

I'd be seriously pissed with DH in your shoes. Does he always pander to his Mum?

The MIL and her mum are not randoms
Or her siblings
None of them are good enough either

Fluufer · 29/10/2024 11:58

StaunchMomma · 29/10/2024 11:46

I can't believe how much stick you're getting here for not using a random babysitting service, OP.

My child has never been left with a random and never will. You're not a bad person for prioritising your child over other people's evening plans.

You're also not a bad person for wanting to celebrate your own birthday milestone rather that prioritise the wants of a woman you don't even get on with, MIL or not.

I'd be seriously pissed with DH in your shoes. Does he always pander to his Mum?

I bet the DH isn't so rigid with childcare. He's probably tired of pandering his wife's inflexibility.

anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:02

Gingerbee · 29/10/2024 00:03

Has your MIL explicitly said she doesn't want rhe toddler at her birthday meal?
Or are you assuming?

I can understand both of you wanting to have what you want for your birthdays. They are both milestones. You should use nanny for your birthday plan.

I thought the idea of a professional sitter and your parents sitting was a really good idea. Wish I had thought of that years ago.

Couldn't your siblings babysit just this once? They could phone you if you they didn't settle. They would most likely already be in bed if was an dinner event. You vould even have a prearranged signsl if you have had enough! It could be a part of your birthday present.

In a more relaxed restaurants are usually very noisy and food very mediocre.
You could both entertain DC. If you think he has had enough then you excuse yourself not preempting just having a starter.

Personally, as a almost 60 year old I wouldn't want a lunch, brunch or and afternoon tea for a special birthday. I am approaching 60 not 75!
Then again I like a good party and dance.

I am assuming your birthday celebrations are over the same weekend.

Good luck and I hope you both have good birthdays.

Yes she has explicitly said she wants a child free meal and didn't like any of the ideas I'd suggested

OP posts:
KnittingKnewbie · 29/10/2024 12:05

janeavrilavril · 29/10/2024 09:32

You are just relishing the difficulty you are causing here, very obvious from your posts which give me a visual image of you like a child who puts their hands over their ears and hums whilst shouting no, no, no. Piles of viable solutions given here that can happen with a bit of effort on your part but ultimately just stay at home, no-one can drag you there.

Do you mean the MIL is being childishly inflexible?
Because OP has offered at least 4 different solutions and the MIL keeps saying they're not good enough.
I don't see what else the OP can offer except to leave her small child alone with a person the child doesn't know which OP (rightly) is not prepared to do.
How is the OP at fault?!

anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:06

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 29/10/2024 07:10

I would ask the nanny to do it at a rate of double pay. Husband can pay her.

She gets double pay already when she babysits in the evening. At double pay she is willing to do this one evening, not both

OP posts:
anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:17

Cherrysoup · 29/10/2024 10:08

I’d put down my foot and insist on an afternoon outing somewhere for mil’s birthday. Why is she coming to yours for her birthday and you’re not going to her?

As an aside, as a language teacher, are you speaking your native language to the toddler and does your dh speak it? I was friends with a colleague who learned Welsh (not her mother tongue, although she was Welsh) and used it exclusively at home . I admired her persistence!

She's coming here because she wants to make a weekend out of it I guess, it was her choice. Also if we went to hers then this wouldn't be an issue because childcare would absolutely not be possible and I couldn't / wouldn't go.

Language - yes, I am bilingual (born here but parents moved from their home country together before i was born) and to DC I speak my parents' language / the language we spoke at home / not English. In laws can understand bits of this language, my husband can speak relatively well because he studied it when we were dating but it's not his native language.

OP posts:
anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:18

BIossomtoes · 29/10/2024 10:35

I’d put down my foot and insist on an afternoon outing somewhere for mil’s birthday.

How’s that work? You can’t insist another adult does anything. Mil’s as entitled to a grown up evening birthday celebration as her Dil.

She's entitled to any celebration she wants, but in the same way I can't insist that her celebration is in the afternoon, she can't insist that I attend.

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anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:19

Fluufer · 29/10/2024 10:48

OP how does your DH feel about the strict babysitter situation? You've gone on about how you don't want another babysitter, but what does he think? Is his response a reaction to you refusing to leave the child with anyone else?

My husband would not leave DC with an agency sitter either. He would be horrified if I suggested it.

He understands my parents' health condition and agrees it would be dangerous to leave them alone, especially as my parents said they do not feel capable of doing it.

OP posts:
anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:21

OrangeRhymesWith · 29/10/2024 10:54

It's obvious you don't really want to go to mil's thing and that's fine but i can see her and your husbands annoyance at how you have an answer for everything except you or the nanny being with the child.

Sorry but there are times when your child will have to be in the care of people who are less interested or enthusiastic about him than you are.

If MIL has said she can mind him for your birthday let her, they may suprise you.

Likewise your parents may be fine either night - if it's your birthday, tell them they can call your husband and he can leave put the baby to bed and come back or just leave early, and the same but with you on call if it's for your MIL birthday. I mean you can stay just for the meal even - what would it be 3.5/4 hours?

it seems disingenuous to say there's no other childcare when there is. It's just not the childcare you think is good enough

MIL has never said she can mind DC, never once suggested it because she wouldn't enjoy it, DC would cry the whole time, it would be a nightmare for all.
She's said she "doesn't do" young children before.

OP posts:
Fluufer · 29/10/2024 12:22

anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:19

My husband would not leave DC with an agency sitter either. He would be horrified if I suggested it.

He understands my parents' health condition and agrees it would be dangerous to leave them alone, especially as my parents said they do not feel capable of doing it.

Why don't you get an agency babysitter and your parents to come? Then you have trusted people around, they don't need to do the heavy lifting and you can get to know another babysitter. You're cutting your nose off to spite your face by limiting yourselves to one reluctant babysitter.

anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:25

@Fluufer I've already responded to this.
Because DC doesn't immediately warm up towards people he's never met - like lots of toddlers. He would need to meet the babysitter a few times before, play with them etc. otherwise he'd probably just end up clinging to my parents, who (as I have explained) for health reasons are unable to care for my child for a full evening.

OP posts:
Fluufer · 29/10/2024 12:28

anonymoush · 29/10/2024 12:25

@Fluufer I've already responded to this.
Because DC doesn't immediately warm up towards people he's never met - like lots of toddlers. He would need to meet the babysitter a few times before, play with them etc. otherwise he'd probably just end up clinging to my parents, who (as I have explained) for health reasons are unable to care for my child for a full evening.

How old is your toddler and how far away are the birthdays? Couldn't you make some time to get to know another babysitter? How on earth did you introduce the nanny - do that with a babysitter.
If you just don't want to, then fine, but it's not impossible.

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