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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
icallshade · 29/10/2024 06:06

Book the sitter for your birthday.

I have a toddler (2.5) so know what you mean about it being trickier, however in this circumstance I would take my little girl out for the day to somewhere I know she will end up exhausted from, not let her nap, put her to bed earlier (7-7.30) and get your parents to sit in while toddler sleeps.

Worst case scenario, toddler wakes up and you come home. You need to try and be a little more flexible, give it a go and if it doesn't work out you can always leave and take over from your parents.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/10/2024 06:08

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 28/10/2024 22:48

Seems obvious to me, too.

She doesn't like her MIL so why on earth would she want to spend her own birthday with her?

thepariscrimefiles · 29/10/2024 06:13

Justtakenthebait789 · 28/10/2024 22:51

I can’t believe some of the answers on here!

I am turning sixty soon and I wouldn’t dream of making such a silly fuss about my birthday!

In this situation it would be completely natural to me to work around my dil’s 30th birthday! And as the mother of a young child, of course her arrangements would take priority, I can’t imagine why they wouldn’t! In our family, all help goes to supporting mothers of young dc; bc that is when support is most needed!

And of course it’s more important that my dil celebrates her 30th birthday. That really is a milestone! I have celebrated my 30th, 40th and 50th and would be perfectly happy moving my 60th birthday to the afternoon or another day to suit everyone else.

And your dh is facilitating your mil’s selfish behaviour op. I think you are more than justified in feeling upset about that!

And quite right that you prioritise the safe-guarding of your toddler and not engage total strangers to look after her. As a mil I would totally support that decision; not rail against it!

You sound like a great MIL! I can't believe how offended some posters are that OP doesn't immediately agree to use an agency babysitter that her child doesn't know, despite all her misgivings.

thepariscrimefiles · 29/10/2024 06:21

icallshade · 29/10/2024 06:06

Book the sitter for your birthday.

I have a toddler (2.5) so know what you mean about it being trickier, however in this circumstance I would take my little girl out for the day to somewhere I know she will end up exhausted from, not let her nap, put her to bed earlier (7-7.30) and get your parents to sit in while toddler sleeps.

Worst case scenario, toddler wakes up and you come home. You need to try and be a little more flexible, give it a go and if it doesn't work out you can always leave and take over from your parents.

Why would she book the sitter for her own birthday when a) she really doesn't want to and b) she may need to leave her own birthday celebration early if things don't work out?

Why choose OP's birthday rather than MIL's for this 'experiment' of using a sitter her child doesn't know with her elderly parents that love their grandchild but due to age/health can't really cope without OP there?

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 29/10/2024 07:10

I would ask the nanny to do it at a rate of double pay. Husband can pay her.

strawberry2017 · 29/10/2024 07:22

So screw what you want for your birthday as long as MIL gets what she wants? Erm no! That's not remotely fair.

RosesAndHellebores · 29/10/2024 07:27

Reflecting on the thread and beyond 60, but as a MIL, FFS, I think I'd just say, "oh what a shame you can't get a sitter this month, never mind, we'll celebrate next month when you can".

icallshade · 29/10/2024 07:38

thepariscrimefiles · 29/10/2024 06:21

Why would she book the sitter for her own birthday when a) she really doesn't want to and b) she may need to leave her own birthday celebration early if things don't work out?

Why choose OP's birthday rather than MIL's for this 'experiment' of using a sitter her child doesn't know with her elderly parents that love their grandchild but due to age/health can't really cope without OP there?

I meant book the regular Nanny for her own birthday and use her parents for MIL.
Clearly this didn't come across well so I'll edit my post. I completely agree she should prioritise her own birthday which was the point I was trying to make.

Vermeers · 29/10/2024 08:18

OP, you have made enough efforts to compromise.
Enjoy your birthday as planned.
If your husband decides to miss your birthday then I certainly wouldn't bother with his mothers, let him attend on his own.
I missed lots of things with young children, it happens.

BeanThereDoneIt · 29/10/2024 08:25

You’ve offered so many reasonable alternatives, I really don’t see how you’re in the wrong here for having lines you’re not willing to cross when it comes to childcare choices.

C8H10N4O2 · 29/10/2024 08:31

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 22:12

As I've said I already pay the nanny double her daytime rate when she does evenings. Do you suggest I double the double? Clearly the financial incentive is there but she doesn't want to / can't do it.

Yes, I'd be ok with MIL moving her celebration to when the nanny can babysit - next month or the one after.

So why not move your own birthday dinner to the following month? Personally I'd defer a 30th for a 60th and its hardly come as a big surprise that both your birthdays are in the same week. Nor is it surprising that a 60th is to be celebrated with a family get together.

Every post you make here seems to be just another variant on "I don't want to" so what do you want from this thread?

You have a three year old and in three years neither you nor DH have built any kind of support system that can provide a couple of hours babysitting - that was your choice. Its your choice to be obsessive and picky about anyone else being in contact with your child. What do you do if the nanny goes sick or there is another emergency?
My parents and inlaws could both have baby sat a three year old for a few hours in their 70s - are your parents exceptionally frail or is this more of you deciding that nobody can possibly look after your child except your personally approved nanny?

Personally I'd combine the events or do the bigger celebration and defer my own for a month - a 30th just isn't such a milestone. The reality of small children is that you suck it up and find reliiable babysitters or you don't go out.

Trying to demonise your MiL because she doesn't live close to be a local granny and because she understand OPOL isn't going to change the facts that its your choices which have left you short of bogstandard babysitting services.

Tink3rbell30 · 29/10/2024 08:32

WiddlinDiddlin · 29/10/2024 02:47

Kind of missing the point, that OP has repeatedly made - she minds her DH missing her birthday.

Yes but if he's not bothered why would you would be this awkward and insist he comes when he isn't bothered about being there?

C8H10N4O2 · 29/10/2024 08:35

C8H10N4O2 · 29/10/2024 08:31

So why not move your own birthday dinner to the following month? Personally I'd defer a 30th for a 60th and its hardly come as a big surprise that both your birthdays are in the same week. Nor is it surprising that a 60th is to be celebrated with a family get together.

Every post you make here seems to be just another variant on "I don't want to" so what do you want from this thread?

You have a three year old and in three years neither you nor DH have built any kind of support system that can provide a couple of hours babysitting - that was your choice. Its your choice to be obsessive and picky about anyone else being in contact with your child. What do you do if the nanny goes sick or there is another emergency?
My parents and inlaws could both have baby sat a three year old for a few hours in their 70s - are your parents exceptionally frail or is this more of you deciding that nobody can possibly look after your child except your personally approved nanny?

Personally I'd combine the events or do the bigger celebration and defer my own for a month - a 30th just isn't such a milestone. The reality of small children is that you suck it up and find reliiable babysitters or you don't go out.

Trying to demonise your MiL because she doesn't live close to be a local granny and because she understand OPOL isn't going to change the facts that its your choices which have left you short of bogstandard babysitting services.

she understand OPOL

Should of course have been "doesn't understand OPOL"

Bellatrixpure · 29/10/2024 08:36

Your husband sounds like a right wet wipe who can’t say no to Mummy. I’d skip her birthday and do what is right for you

jeaux90 · 29/10/2024 08:39

OP your nanny. Can she recommend someone else to sit? Who sits her DC when she is working?

BTW it's perfectly acceptable to say you can't make the MIL birthday for these reasons. Your DH is being unreasonable for saying he won't come to yours and sit the DC.

C8H10N4O2 · 29/10/2024 08:44

RosesAndHellebores · 29/10/2024 07:27

Reflecting on the thread and beyond 60, but as a MIL, FFS, I think I'd just say, "oh what a shame you can't get a sitter this month, never mind, we'll celebrate next month when you can".

I think the problem is that the visit/travel has already been arranged. As an August birthday I've never been able to overworry about birthdays celebrations being "on the day" so I'd move my own but yes, either could move.

The bigger issue to me is that the OP has a three year old and no support network in place to cover for a couple of hours babysitting. If the nanny is the only person acceptable and she needs booking well in advance and infrequently out of hours they need to build up a few people who can provide emergency support.

MadKittenWoman · 29/10/2024 08:55

bittertwisted · 28/10/2024 21:18

I do think your DH is being pretty cruel saying he would rather be at your MILs than yours

However you are also being ridiculously precious about someone looking after your toddler for a few hours
Sure your parents could cope with a few hours of being a bit frazzled
toddler will survive a few hours of a disinterested 60 year old granny
And sitters from agencies are vetted and experienced

It's one evening for a few hours, you are overthinking how this will harm your toddler

This. If you really don't have any friends who could do it, just book a sitter!

Apollo365 · 29/10/2024 09:05

I’ll admit I haven’t RTFT.
You have a babysitter for your 30th. Get that booked/restaurant booked ASAP.
Sorry MIL but 60 doesn’t trump 30.
Let husband go alone to that; not your issue.
We've gone solo to loads of stuff. That’s what happens when you have kids.

Apollo365 · 29/10/2024 09:06

If your parents could manage evening could they come after the child is in bed? So tell MIL you can make it after 19:30pm or similar?

Packetofcrispsplease · 29/10/2024 09:09

You both sound inflexible.
I had no help at all ( no relatives or paid help ) so had to use babysitters from an agency for the very rare occasions we did actually go out ( I have 3 children) when we first moved here .
I did join a babysitting circle once I knew a few school / nursery mums and that did work .
Obviously each member of the circle could only baby sit on evenings their husbands/ partners were home .
I do think your husband should be there for your 30th birthday meal out and your MIL might need to rethink having your toddler at the meal / you leave early .

Codlingmoths · 29/10/2024 09:18

I’d book the nanny for my birthday, tell my dh if he didn’t want to come to my birthday the problem was solved as like fuck would I ever go near a celebration for his mum ever again, why the fuck would I when she’s only the mum of the man who would skip his wife’s bday to make a point about going to his mums, and out of me, a mum of a young toddler and a grandma, the one who gets the child free dinner will be the one who never ever gets that usually and that’s me. If you can’t support me in having a baby free meal out for my own birthday then what is even the point of you?? I hope you’ve got me something thoughtful because so far the only vibe I’m getting is who cares if I’m turning 30, not you. Nanny is booked, it is what it is, you’re coming because you married me and support me in having ONE child free night out, and I’m done thinking of solutions for your mum, that’s your job. Remember the wellbeing of your young child must be considered in your plan or I will be staying with them, as I love <dc>.

i’d be mad as you can see!

janeavrilavril · 29/10/2024 09:32

You are just relishing the difficulty you are causing here, very obvious from your posts which give me a visual image of you like a child who puts their hands over their ears and hums whilst shouting no, no, no. Piles of viable solutions given here that can happen with a bit of effort on your part but ultimately just stay at home, no-one can drag you there.

bittertwisted · 29/10/2024 09:42

She doesn't want to have any form of sitter
She wants to be the only person in the world good enough and safe enough to look after her child, other than the personally vetted nanny she has the great privilege of being able to afford

But on top of that the rest of us are lax shit parents who are happy to leave our 2 year olds with next doors cat to go out on the lash

If Mary Poppins flew in to offer she wouldn't be good enough due to the spoon full of sugar incident

Fluufer · 29/10/2024 09:53

You obviously just don't like your MIL and don't want to go. So just say so.
Personally I would find another babysitter. You're going to get sick of having only one unwilling babysitter sooner or later.

Pelagi · 29/10/2024 09:56

Trouble is, neither of you is being U.

You want to go out for a nice child-free evening meal for your important birthday, at about the time of the actual birthday. You only want to have a specific babysitter for DC (fair enough). You would like to have important family with you. You don’t want to change to a different kind of meal or another day.

MIL wants to go out for a nice child-free evening meal for her important birthday, at about the time of the actual birthday. She would like to have important family with her. She doesn’t want to change to a different kind of meal or another day.

These wishes are incompatible. You can’t both get what you want. But neither of you are U to want what you want. Someone has to compromise or be upset. That’s life though. I suspect though you are wanting validation for your wishes being R and hers being U. They aren’t. They are the same.