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To think I can skip MIL's 60th bday

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anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:10

MIL is turning 60 and I'm turning 30 in the same week. Going out for a meal for both birthdays. My DC is a toddler so wouldn't be a good idea to take them to an evening celebration meal because we'd like to go somewhere "fancy" and naturally whenever DC is out for a meal with us due to their age it's hard to maintain a conversation with grownups, more like you get distracted every 2 seconds because either a wipe is needed or they want help feeding or they want to point out how orange the carrot on their plate is etc. Everyone (ie myself, guests, toddler) would be happier is the toddler stayed at home with the nanny whilst we go for the celebration meal.

We have a nanny who does 9-2 a few days a week, she doesn't love doing evening babysitting as she has her own children, is a single mum and (understandably) wants to spend evenings with them. However she's kindly agreed to babysit on one of the dates, up to us which one. We have a great relationship with the nanny, she's absolutely amazing and I don't want to pressure her if she's said that it's once per month max.

PILs are coming down for the weekend from their hometown (a few hours away) and MIL said she'd like to go out for dinner for her birthday. I can't be both at my own birthday dinner and at hers because we only have childcare for one of the evenings. I've said I can join them with DC if it's something like afternoon tea, or we can join for dinner and just have starters then leave (as DC wouldn't stay seated much longer, will want to run around, as it's one of those slow service, fancy restaurant) or we go somewhere more relaxed / not as fancy and I'm happy to be the one doing all child related duties at the dinner (ie passing the wipes to DC when requested, taking them to the toilet, maintaining chat with them or doing colouring so they're entertained). None of these suit. I'm also happy sitting this one out, but the idea is outrageous for MIL and DH because it's MIL's 60th, super important that everyone is there. She wants to go somewhere fancy without the baby but with me there. My husband insists that in this case I should ask the babysitter to cover MIL's birthday and he will just not attend my birthday - I go with just my parents and siblings. I think that's ridiculous - your spouse is a closer relation than a PIL, it's my 30th just as much as it's her 60th.

I'll add that MIL and I don't get on amazingly. We're civil, we can maintain a conversation but due to being very different people, me not being treated particularly kindly by her through pregnancy and postpartum and a few other things, we aren't besties. I think she also doesn't love a few things about me, small things like wishing DH married someone significantly younger (we're same age) and doesn't love that we do one parent one language with me speaking the minority language (ie I speak to my child predominantly in a language she does understand but is by no means fluent in, it's a common tactic to make a child bilingual) but it's nothing like hate or wanting to not be in each others lives.

Except the nanny there's not really many babysitting options - my parents are older and couldn't really cope with an energetic toddler for a whole evening / wouldn't want to, siblings don't live particularly close so it would make it logistically difficult, DC would cry the whole time with MIL if she babysat and shes somewhat disinterested so I doubt she'd want to babysit either.

AIBU to want to either skip MIL's birthday or do one of the other options I've suggested - a more relaxed restaurant, an earlier meal like lunch or afternoon tea or leave halfway through the meal? As opposed to having my husband be absent at my own 30th.

OP posts:
TaraRhu · 28/10/2024 23:00

Can't mil babysit on your birthday? If she's around she might as well get involved. Then you can go out to the fancy place she wants on her bday.

Couldn't you also do a fancy lunch with milk when you have the nanny? Surely you could reserve somewhere at 12. You can't take an afternoon off ,

KnittingKnewbie · 28/10/2024 23:01

Josette77 · 28/10/2024 22:50

Your toddler will be fine staying with a disinterested grandma for a few hours.

Or I would boom your party for later at night, put toddler to bed and then go out. Your parents can stay with her then. Or have nanny put her down and parents stay.

Or, have nanny bring her kids for the night, or take DD home for the night, and pay an overnight fee.

The disinterested grandma is the MIL. She's going to be at her own party that night and not around for OP's birthday in order to babysit then

Daffyyellow · 28/10/2024 23:11

You pay the Nanny you get to choose which evening you get to celebrate.

IIWY I would celebrate my own birthday using the Nanny to babysit. No question, you pay, you choose, your birthday is more important to you than MIL’s.

Then for MIL, give her the choice - you attend with DC for as long as they cope or you don’t go.

MillyMollyMandy01 · 28/10/2024 23:12

Ask your nanny if she has any nanny friends who would be willing to cover one of the evenings. Explain the situation to her calmly and less emotionally than this post, and you might find she even offers herself….but if not, she might have a friend who would. If not, don’t you have a friend who you could offer to do a babysit swap with for an evening when she wants to go out?

vegaspot · 28/10/2024 23:24

We had my 60th and my daughter 30th in the same Month . We went to OXO tower including her 3 year old ,had a lovely day checking out the Southbank …absolutely no drama 🤦‍♀️

Throughahedgebackwards · 28/10/2024 23:28

Why is OP being given such a hard time? She's explained repeatedly that there are no babysitting options she's comfortable with, and that she has suggested alternatives that would enable her to attend.
Whatever happened to "it's an invitation not a summons" and "no is a compete sentence"?
You are not being unreasonable. OF COURSE you should use the babysitter for your own birthday celebrations, and OF COURSE your husband should be there. He can go and celebrate with his mother and you should not feel guilt tripped in to bending over backwards to appease everyone else at your own, and your child's, expense.

Sparsely · 28/10/2024 23:30

does your nanny have any nanny friends your daughter knows who would be interested? Or any of your friends have nannies? Sounds like you need a plan b going forward, unless you want to stay in and watch TV for the next 13 years..

biwinoone · 28/10/2024 23:37

well.. if your husband is happy to miss your birthday then it is ok for you to miss your MIL's birthday when you don't even get on well with her. Just get a baby sitter for your birthday, have a nice evening. Then don't attend your MIL's birthday, her son can attend it alone. She will probably be happy not to have your there as well and you too can have a nice relaxed evening without having to socialise with people who do not like you. Simple

Theirishwoman · 28/10/2024 23:40

TianasBayou · 28/10/2024 20:35

Go out for one meal to celebrate both birthdays?

Couldn’t imagine anything worse than sharing a day that’s supposed to be for me with my mother in law, OP has explained that they don’t get along. Add a DH like OP has and her birthday is all but forgotten with a joint event.

Catoo · 28/10/2024 23:44

OP. Let’s assume you have your birthday as planned. This leaves some options for MIL’s birthday:

1.You don’t go. No one needs to know until the day itself when you suddenly get a migraine or you say childcare fell through. DH goes and gives your apologies. If he kicks off ask him what childcare he organised.

2.You go in two cars and stay until DC start being a nuisance. Then you can leave and he can stay

3.You give the nanny an offer too good to refuse. Triple pay, a bonus, and offer that her and her DC can stay the night so she gets to see her family. Her dinner all paid for.

TumbledTussocks · 28/10/2024 23:47

I’d just take LO to mil’s dinner. If it gets to the point where it’s totally unworkable - they’re too tired or keen to walk about, I’d leave then but I’d give it a good shot and bring some small toys to fiddle with. Magnets/ small
animals/ cars. Even if it doesn’t go brilliantly you’ve given it your best shot.

I also liked the earlier suggestion of hiring an agency nanny to do the childcare but having your parents present (or a friend) for your own peace of mind.

Remaker · 28/10/2024 23:49

How old is your toddler? And what time do they go to bed? Can’t you just put them to bed before you go out for your birthday and have your parents there to babysit the sleeping child? We had two kids under two and used to do this all the time when they were little. They didn’t even know we’d gone out.

I do think you’re being a bit precious refusing to consider another babysitter for a couple of hours for your MIL’s birthday. Do you have any mum friends who might help? I’d do it for a friend.

This is not going to be the last time you have more than one event in a month. Time to cultivate some extra babysitters.

MrsPeterHarris · 28/10/2024 23:52

Dawevi · 28/10/2024 22:45

YABU. You're being deliberately difficult because you don't want to go and you think you've got a great excuse, but you don't.

Your nanny will know other nannies and at hearty one of those nannies will be happy to babysit for you. Or you can get on your local Facebook group and get recommendations for a good local babysitter.

You have a toddler not a newborn, they will be fine with someone new, and if they won't go to sleep for someone other than you or the nanny (mine never would) it won't kill them to be still up when you get home after the meal at 11/12.

If this was something you wanted to go to then you would be finding a way. If I was your husband I would be pissed off with you.

I agree with this. Plus with an agency nanny, you could have your parents there too so the nanny does all the running around but your parents are there for safety / being worried to leave DC with a stranger aspect. Seems the perfect solution.

ScabbyHorse · 29/10/2024 00:00

I agree with a previous poster that you could wait til your child is asleep and leave them with your parents and then go out to MILs thing.. if you really want to go. Otherwise just enjoy your own birthday.

Gingerbee · 29/10/2024 00:03

Has your MIL explicitly said she doesn't want rhe toddler at her birthday meal?
Or are you assuming?

I can understand both of you wanting to have what you want for your birthdays. They are both milestones. You should use nanny for your birthday plan.

I thought the idea of a professional sitter and your parents sitting was a really good idea. Wish I had thought of that years ago.

Couldn't your siblings babysit just this once? They could phone you if you they didn't settle. They would most likely already be in bed if was an dinner event. You vould even have a prearranged signsl if you have had enough! It could be a part of your birthday present.

In a more relaxed restaurants are usually very noisy and food very mediocre.
You could both entertain DC. If you think he has had enough then you excuse yourself not preempting just having a starter.

Personally, as a almost 60 year old I wouldn't want a lunch, brunch or and afternoon tea for a special birthday. I am approaching 60 not 75!
Then again I like a good party and dance.

I am assuming your birthday celebrations are over the same weekend.

Good luck and I hope you both have good birthdays.

Osirus · 29/10/2024 00:03

anonymoush · 28/10/2024 20:56

It's not all about me at all - it's about my child's safety. My parents are elderly and don't have the energy or health to look after a very energetic toddler. It would be dangerous to dump a toddler on people who've said they do not feel they are capable of taking that responsibility?

Elderly? If you’re 30 they can’t be more than 70 (biologically speaking). My mum is 72 and regularly babysits three at a time. A toddler, looked after by two adults, when it is likely to be asleep as well, should be a fairly straightforward task?

phoenixrosehere · 29/10/2024 00:10

YANBU and I wish posters would use the read all of OP’s posts function so you don’t have to repeat yourself.

The MIL doesn’t like you but wants you to leave your child/her grandchild for her birthday. You AND your DH should tell her that you will bring your child and leave if it becomes too much for them or you don’t come. You don’t get to dislike someone and dictate that they have to leave their child because it’s your birthday. Your husband, her son should be enough for her.

ChaosHol1 · 29/10/2024 00:16

Well since she doesn't like any of your suggestions, it's kind of tough shit for her and you can't go and will need to stay home with the toddler. The fact your husband thinks you'd use the babysitter and he miss his own wives 30th bday because its not acceptable for you to miss your mother in laws birthday, is preposterous on his part.

Runsyd · 29/10/2024 00:27

I don't understand. Aren't there babysitting agencies any more? Why can't you hire someone else for the evening?

Ilovelifeveryverymuch · 29/10/2024 00:46

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WiddlinDiddlin · 29/10/2024 02:47

Tink3rbell30 · 28/10/2024 22:26

Do what DH says, nanny for MIL's birthday and he can have toddler on your birthday. He wouldn't have suggested it if he didn't mind missing yours.

Kind of missing the point, that OP has repeatedly made - she minds her DH missing her birthday.

Reserved101 · 29/10/2024 04:19

Your explanations might be reasonable but, honestly, to me it reads as though you don't want to find a solution. My guess (and it is only that) is that if there were 2 evening events you really wanted to go to in one week, you'd settle on one of the options you are dismissing now.

purplebeansprouts · 29/10/2024 05:36

Who does she think she is? The Queen of Sheeba?

PeloMom · 29/10/2024 05:56

Your big birthdays will always fall within the same week so whatever you do now, will set the tone in the future. As you said, you are entitled to the birthday you want. I’d get the babysitter for then.
MIL is also entitled to the celebration she wants so she has to accept that you won’t be there or can choose from the other options you offered her.
in the meantime find out why your husband thinks his mother’s wants trump yours.

Gonegirl7 · 29/10/2024 06:01

Your birthday - use the nanny to babysit

her 60th - get a friend, a family. Member or a professional babysitter to babysit.

done.