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AIBU to feel I should have been invited? ***edit by MNHQ to say this is a reverse***

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checkeredboards · 27/10/2024 19:23

I get along well with my in-laws and I always feel included and part of the family. We live about 3 hours away from my family and about 20 minutes away from my PILs. We have a great marriage. Been married for 8 years now. I recently had my PILs and SIL over for cake for my husband's 30th birthday. Well MIL presented him with concert tickets for his birthday and said out loud, "I bought you, your dad, me, and your younger sister concert tickets so we can all go see this band that we all love together in concert yayy." I'm thinking in my head MIL prob just forgot to mention me by name because surely there's no way his mum forgot to include me in this as I would be the only family member left out and we don't have a rocky relationship we get along very well and it would be way out of character for her. But nope she didn't include me. She went on to say how excited she was to do this for the four of them.

My husband was like thanks mum I'm super excited. Which I was pretty pissed at him that he right away didn't stand by me and immediately ask what about my wife. I told him later on that I was pretty pissed because I felt like it's one thing for his parents not to think of and include me but it's a whole other layer of hurt when husband doesn't even think of me. I couldn't help myself and muttered pretty loudly so I could make sure they heard, "thanks for including and thinking of your son's closest family member you know his wife the woman he married." I mentioned that this is very clearly a celebration centered around the four of them and I was going to leave them to it. His mom said how of course I'm part of the celebration and I said well right now it doesn't really feel like I'm part of it. That's the time I felt like my husband should have supported me. I'm the one he married and lives with. He just stood there like a dumb man shrugging his shoulders. Not literally speaking but figuratively speaking.

I felt like if they couldn't afford 5 concert tickets ok fine but there was so many ways around that where I wasn't completely left out. They could have given my husband money towards the concert ticket based on what they could afford and said, "hey for your birthday I want to go to a concert as a family please put this money towards you and your wife's concert ticket." Or they could have made it just a mother son night or a father son not that way not everyone in the family is included but his own wife! Especially like I said this is sooo out of character because his parents are not the type at all to not consider others feelings or how things may look or come across.

AIBU to feel hurt and left out by the actions of my MIL and also even more hurt that my husband wasn't immediately like what the hell what about my wife? I mention MIL specifically because I know she is the present buyer for the family and she is the one who presented the tickets during the celebration. If FIL was the one who bought the family presents and presented the tickets I would have said him instead of MIL.

I feel like MIL was going back in time where their family was just the four of them but now her son is married and family functions should include his wife.

OP posts:
LouH5 · 27/10/2024 21:24

checkeredboards · 27/10/2024 21:17

To those saying are they ever allowed to see their own son without them I already stated very clearly i might add that if it was just parents and him or mom and him or dad and him that's one thing but for me to be the one one left out changes the dynamic

I still spend time with my mum, dad and brother without my partner. It’s very normal. And nice to have this time together still. I love it when my partner joins us for family dinners and days out and things, but he doesn’t have to all the time.

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:25

Hollyhocksandlarkspur · 27/10/2024 20:55

I think it was extremely unkind to exclude you so pointedly and make you the only person present at his family birthday celebration to be excluded from an exciting trip. I would not dream of living my DCs partners out of a family trip for a birthday present. I don’t think you are at all unreasonable to feel sad.

When two young people marry they leave their own parents and cleave to each other, creating a new family and they certainly are considered to be the closest family in UK law as a spouse. As a mum in law I will always support their marriages and think their first loyalty should be to their spouses for the marriage to be a success,so you are right to expect your husband to have your back.

I really hooe this can be amicably resolved. It must be disappointing for your DH to see you be treated like you don't matter to them enough to be included after eight years of marriage..

Wise words indeed.

Demonhunter · 27/10/2024 21:26

checkeredboards · 27/10/2024 21:17

To those saying are they ever allowed to see their own son without them I already stated very clearly i might add that if it was just parents and him or mom and him or dad and him that's one thing but for me to be the one one left out changes the dynamic

Why isn't he allowed to spend time with his parents and his sister at the same time without you?

Crankyracoon · 27/10/2024 21:27

Yabu

MsPavlichenko · 27/10/2024 21:27

Your behaviour was atrocious. It was a celebration for your husband, and you acted like a spoiled child. Even if you are disappointed, you handled it badly. Even a joke about not having a ticket would have been better.

What wrong with the four of them having a night out just them. This one time? I do things with my adult DD without her partner sometimes, sometimes with both of them. It doesn’t mean he’s not part of the family. You must be very hard work.

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:29

Lulubellamozarella · 27/10/2024 21:13

Why does she need to check with the wife if he is free? She is not his secretary. And why does she have to ask if she can come to? If the object is to get the original family unit together to see a band they love, which is what this seems to be, then why does 'the wife' need to be invited? They can do things separately. She doesn't need to be invited to everything that he gets invited to. That's nonsense!!

Your definition of marriage and mine is completely different. I’d even go so far as to suggest that the institution of marriage means very little to you.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 27/10/2024 21:30

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:25

Wise words indeed.

No, they aren't wise words. They're validating OP's over dramatic and petulant reaction.

Chardonnay73 · 27/10/2024 21:30

Jesus, are you not getting the fact that even though you are married… although are you? I’m not sure? Did you mention that? 🙄
Your husband has the right to go out with other people without you.
Your husband has the right to go out with his nuclear family without you.
Can you not be happy that he can spend ONE evening with his mom, dad and sister? Without spoiling it by whining about how you are NFI?
It’s a thing they all enjoyed together, have history of it together. Did you even know him when this band was around? Do you have memories with him and the family of listening to this band together? I’ll bet my mortgage that you didn’t. In which case, why are you bellyaching so much ?
Honestly, grow up, you sound like a bloody nightmare with your non discreet ‘muttering’

justanotherchangeofname · 27/10/2024 21:32

I understand why you're upset, it's not nice to be left out when normally you're so involved with the family but you really should have sucked it up in that moment, it's your husbands birthday and you made it about yourself which isn't fair, even if you are unhappy about something.

You could have raised the same issues with your husband after his birthday or with your MIL separately. With there being no other issues and them normally being kind, it's more likely lack of thought which isn't nice but isn't with malice either.

Astrabees · 27/10/2024 21:33

YANBU, I can’t believe that his mother could have done this to you at an occasion when you were hosting her. She owes you a big apology and it will take her time to win back your trust. I’m pleased your DH has seen your side of it and hoe he refuses to go with them because of their rudeness.

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:33

SouthLondonMum22 · 27/10/2024 21:05

I got that they were married the first 100 times OP pointed it out, thanks.

So what? Married people are still individuals and don’t need to be stuck together 24/7.

Don’t bother marrying if you think that you’re only two individuals sharing a household. What’s the point? The correct protocol would be for the MIL to have spoken with her DIL beforehand to make sure dates are suitable and bought tickets for all of them.

Cosyblankets · 27/10/2024 21:34

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:33

Don’t bother marrying if you think that you’re only two individuals sharing a household. What’s the point? The correct protocol would be for the MIL to have spoken with her DIL beforehand to make sure dates are suitable and bought tickets for all of them.

Why couldn't she speak to her own son? Why did she need to speak to his wife?

Lulubellamozarella · 27/10/2024 21:35

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:29

Your definition of marriage and mine is completely different. I’d even go so far as to suggest that the institution of marriage means very little to you.

You know little about me. Marriage means very much to me. I have been happily married for many years and the reason why is because my DH and I have an amazing relationship together but we also are allowed to do things separately and don't expect to be in each others pockets and invited to everything that the other is invited to. FYI I also have a fabulous relationship with my in laws and my own family.

So if your definition of marriage is that you have to do everything together then knock yourselves out. Mine is not and its very successful.

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:35

ForAvidQuail · 27/10/2024 20:54

You sound very hard work🥱

Yeah, a wife to think think she’s part of her husband’s family. How dreadful. What on earth was she thinking!

checkeredboards · 27/10/2024 21:35

sugarapplelane · 27/10/2024 21:11

Grow up Op. stop making what was a thoughtful gesture into something nasty.

Yes, your MIL perhaps should have run the dates past you incase she was about to waste her money on tickets for a date your Husband couldn’t make. But that is the only thing she did wrong.

You don’t need to be included in everything just because you are married.

My MIL is married to my DH’s Step Father and he comes along to everything with MIL, absolutely everything. My DH gets annoyed as sometimes he just wants time with his Mum. Step Father is like a bloody puppy following along. He feels left out apparently which goes back to his childhood.

Did anything bad happen in your childhood where you were left out which may subconsciously haunt you now?

I don't know why your DH is placing the blame just on his stepfather. Surely if he is coming your MIL has somewhat a part in that too. Isn't that up to her to say something?

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rosesaredeadvioletsaretoo · 27/10/2024 21:37

Of course they can do things without you! You were really rude and spoilt something nice. You need to apologize. You behaved shockingly.

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:38

Lulubellamozarella · 27/10/2024 21:35

You know little about me. Marriage means very much to me. I have been happily married for many years and the reason why is because my DH and I have an amazing relationship together but we also are allowed to do things separately and don't expect to be in each others pockets and invited to everything that the other is invited to. FYI I also have a fabulous relationship with my in laws and my own family.

So if your definition of marriage is that you have to do everything together then knock yourselves out. Mine is not and its very successful.

My husband and I do things separately but our families would never be so rude as to exclude either myself or my husband. We are a married couple. If we choose to do something separately, that’s an entirely different situation. You do understand the difference yah? And nothing negates the NIL’s thoughtless and rude behaviour.

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:39

MsPavlichenko · 27/10/2024 21:27

Your behaviour was atrocious. It was a celebration for your husband, and you acted like a spoiled child. Even if you are disappointed, you handled it badly. Even a joke about not having a ticket would have been better.

What wrong with the four of them having a night out just them. This one time? I do things with my adult DD without her partner sometimes, sometimes with both of them. It doesn’t mean he’s not part of the family. You must be very hard work.

Atrocious? Nah, the MIL’s behaviour was atrocious.

Lulubellamozarella · 27/10/2024 21:39

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:35

Yeah, a wife to think think she’s part of her husband’s family. How dreadful. What on earth was she thinking!

She is part of the husbands family. It doesn't mean she gets to go to everything he gets invited to! Family or not! They are two separate people. You and your DH must be joined at the hip!!

SouthLondonMum22 · 27/10/2024 21:39

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:33

Don’t bother marrying if you think that you’re only two individuals sharing a household. What’s the point? The correct protocol would be for the MIL to have spoken with her DIL beforehand to make sure dates are suitable and bought tickets for all of them.

No vows I said included giving up my independence and not having a life outside of my husband.

Was it the ‘correct protocol’ for OP to stomp her feet and ruin her husband’s birthday?

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:39

Lulubellamozarella · 27/10/2024 21:39

She is part of the husbands family. It doesn't mean she gets to go to everything he gets invited to! Family or not! They are two separate people. You and your DH must be joined at the hip!!

well we are married. And our families have good manners ;-)

LouH5 · 27/10/2024 21:39

checkeredboards · 27/10/2024 21:35

I don't know why your DH is placing the blame just on his stepfather. Surely if he is coming your MIL has somewhat a part in that too. Isn't that up to her to say something?

Maybe the MIL doesn’t want him to come and he doesn’t always get invited, but then he throws his toys out the pram and causes a scene the way you did over the gig tickets, so now he gets invited everywhere as they’ve been made to feel like they have to, kind of like what you’re doing to your husband and his family.

Lovelylilylane · 27/10/2024 21:40

SouthLondonMum22 · 27/10/2024 21:39

No vows I said included giving up my independence and not having a life outside of my husband.

Was it the ‘correct protocol’ for OP to stomp her feet and ruin her husband’s birthday?

Vows that say two become one.

HalloweenHaribo · 27/10/2024 21:40

Did you recently start a thread about being jealous of your husband telling his parents any kind of news, before telling you?

Even though he'd only tell them something an hour before telling you, you were moaning because you're his WIFE and as his WIFE you should know first because his parents are not his WIFE but you are his WIFE.

And WIFE WIFE WIFE WIFE WIFE WIFE WIFE etc?

checkeredboards · 27/10/2024 21:40

UneFoisAuChalet · 27/10/2024 21:21

Bet you the family had discussed the possibility of going to see their favourite band together like the good old days. And they ‘surprised’ him for his birthday. That’s why your DH just stood around shrugging. Now he’s had to do a bit of back peddling to shake you off, but he’ll do it for the opportunity to spend time alone with his family.

I would suggest looking closer to home as to why this happened OP. Maybe they never get time with son/brother without you there and maybe they thought ‘there’s no way she can muscle in on this’.

As you say, you are his wife, so you should be secure in your relationship, that spending one night apart won’t be the end.

But your theory doesn't add up bc if they felt like I was "muscling" in which would be an add way to put it when it's simply just someone's spouse coming along to a family event which kept quite natural they wouldn't have been as kind and loving to me.

Also why would my own husband not want me with him that night.

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