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Costa should make it clear that cream or marshmallows cost extra

219 replies

Learc · 27/10/2024 00:29

when buying hot chocolate.

OP posts:
Lyannaa · 27/10/2024 10:33

Headisspinningnow · 27/10/2024 08:18

Is it the same at Starbucks? We dont have Costa where I am. They always ask me if I want cream, I always say no as I dont like it, no idea they charged extra

No it's not and they don't.

Beezknees · 27/10/2024 10:33

CherryValley5 · 27/10/2024 10:08

This! Costa is the favourite ‘coffee’ shop of people who don’t actually drink coffee.

People have different tastes. In other news water is wet.

RockaLock · 27/10/2024 10:33

Surely this is a one-time issue though Confused

The first time you go to Costa, you say "yes please" to cream. Then you realise you've been stung for an extra 70p, and so the next time you are there you say "no thank you".

DustyAmuseAlien · 27/10/2024 10:39

For-profit business uses upselling tactics and marketing to increase revenue. So shocked.

There must be a place where businesses don't need to make money, and services are fully functional and provided by the state but only modest taxes are due, so small as to be unnoticeable, and no effort is needed for people to keep themselves informed of what is available. That's where we all need to move to.

Lyannaa · 27/10/2024 10:42

Upselling is entirely different to this. People know when they are being sold something. Whereas this is ambiguous because Costa is the only shop that charges extra. Starbucks doesn’t. The independent coffee shop I use on a Saturday doesn’t.

burnoutbabe · 27/10/2024 10:52

It is inconsistent -Starbucks frappacino include cream on top but they always ask if you want it.

It makes for a very transactional purchase -do you want x blend -how much? Sprinkles? How much? Can you imagine that in subway? Or burrito bowls? They should make it clearer what's included and what's an optional extra.

IncessantNameChanger · 27/10/2024 10:55

marmamumma · 27/10/2024 02:09

You silly billies. Do what we did in Australia, ignore them and go to your local lovely family owned coffee shop. There are still Starbucks hanging around here and there, but the majority closed within a couple of years. I don't know anyone that goes to one except in desperation. Terrible overpriced coffee. ( we take our coffee seriously in Australia - we even invented McCafe - which is heaps better than Starbucks btw)

I'm a a market town so we only have charity shops and coffee shops. There's one clothing shop on the High Street. If you live in a big town or city lovely local indis can't pay the shop rents. If I go into my two closest bigger towns there's not one indi coffee shop.

I'd have to agree about the rolling menu as a dyslexic. I struggle with a science degree so I'm sure plenty of other dyslexics do. Plus the other vulnerable ND people. I find Prof Cox talking about black holes easier to grasp than a bright rotation menu.

We aren't all masters of the,English language speed reading suporters of indi start ups. Not by choice, we're struggling to speed road and process. This might come as a massive shock when we age and sight and processing speed drops off. Some might understand then that dome people could never speed rwad a menu at distance and speed.

Precipice · 27/10/2024 11:00

cakeorwine · 27/10/2024 09:02

I am sure people recognise these upselling techniques

What Is Upselling? 9 Upselling Techniques That Work Like a Charm

Interesting quote at the bottom

Are upselling techniques ethical?

Yes, they are. It should never be your intent to deceive your customer or sell a product that doesn’t do what it claims to do.

If you are satisfied being transparent with your customers and that your products and services are as good as they claim to be, there is no issue with offering upsells.
An upsell should always be better than or outperform the original goods or services. Otherwise, there will be no incentive for your customer to choose the upgraded option. If your customer can afford the cost and wants the best solution, they will choose the upsold items. Otherwise, they won’t.

So....how do you upsell marshmallows and cream on a hot chocolate without upsetting customers who may not have seen the extra price or realised that it would cost extra - because you now have an unhappy customer - and unhappy customers are more likely to spread the word of their unhappiness than happy ones.

This is at best a very optimistic view of the process. In actuality, it is merely the business jargon trying to sell you on upselling. You tend to encounter this usually when you've already made a selection and communicated it. It's tiresome to have to reiterate the choice, because someone is trying to argue you away from it to earn themselves more money. It's insulting.

"If your customer can afford the cost and wants the best solution, they will choose the upsold items." This line is frankly outrageous in its presumption.

MsCactus · 27/10/2024 11:02

I've always known cream and marshmallows is extra! It says on the board when you look at drinks to order

Do people really not read prices and get annoyed at the baristas because they haven't read the menu?????

BlueEyedLeucy · 27/10/2024 11:04

It’s hardly a shocking new phenomenon…in my first waitress job, 23 years ago, we had hot chocolate for one price, or hot chocolate with ‘the works’ (cream and marshmallows) for another price. Expect to pay extra for anything over and above the baseline product. It’s a business.

Magnastorm · 27/10/2024 11:12

You'd have to be pretty naive to not expect marshmallows etc to cost etc, but, equally, it's plainly obvious they staff there are told to ask in a really offhand way that is intended to catch people out who either don't know that it's an extra charge or who aren't really listening.

It's not "do you want marshmallows as well? That's 50p extra", it's "do you want marshmallows" in the same way as you will be asked if you want ice in a soft drink in a bar.

I mean, you can understand perfectly why they do it but it is slightly underhanded.

MsCactus · 27/10/2024 11:14

IncessantNameChanger · 27/10/2024 10:55

I'm a a market town so we only have charity shops and coffee shops. There's one clothing shop on the High Street. If you live in a big town or city lovely local indis can't pay the shop rents. If I go into my two closest bigger towns there's not one indi coffee shop.

I'd have to agree about the rolling menu as a dyslexic. I struggle with a science degree so I'm sure plenty of other dyslexics do. Plus the other vulnerable ND people. I find Prof Cox talking about black holes easier to grasp than a bright rotation menu.

We aren't all masters of the,English language speed reading suporters of indi start ups. Not by choice, we're struggling to speed road and process. This might come as a massive shock when we age and sight and processing speed drops off. Some might understand then that dome people could never speed rwad a menu at distance and speed.

I think if someone is struggling to read a menu and prices when ordering something they probably need a carer or an interpreter to help them buying things in all shops, not just Costa.

Imo Costa menus say very clearly that marshmallows and cream costs extra. When you read the hot choc price it's literally right there (one price with and one without) - I don't get why pps are annoyed by this. It's not hidden or anything

ihaveliterallynoidea · 27/10/2024 11:24

Why would you even think it's free?!

Precipice · 27/10/2024 11:28

ihaveliterallynoidea · 27/10/2024 11:24

Why would you even think it's free?!

Because sometimes things are offered as an extra to the item you've ordered and are free, e.g. cheese for your pasta dish, sugar or milk for your coffee. The categories of extras that fall into free and not free are not so discrete that there can never be any confusion.

cakeorwine · 27/10/2024 11:50

Precipice · 27/10/2024 11:28

Because sometimes things are offered as an extra to the item you've ordered and are free, e.g. cheese for your pasta dish, sugar or milk for your coffee. The categories of extras that fall into free and not free are not so discrete that there can never be any confusion.

Italian restaurants are missing a trick when they ask if you want Parmesan on the pasta as they serve it to you.

Maybe it should be an extra on the menu

cakeorwine · 27/10/2024 11:55

Magnastorm · 27/10/2024 11:12

You'd have to be pretty naive to not expect marshmallows etc to cost etc, but, equally, it's plainly obvious they staff there are told to ask in a really offhand way that is intended to catch people out who either don't know that it's an extra charge or who aren't really listening.

It's not "do you want marshmallows as well? That's 50p extra", it's "do you want marshmallows" in the same way as you will be asked if you want ice in a soft drink in a bar.

I mean, you can understand perfectly why they do it but it is slightly underhanded.

Edited

"Do you want a flake with that?" when a child and a parent are buying an ice cream.

And that question should be asked to the child, not the parent, so the child says yes and the parent doesn't have time to say "No" or doesn't want to be seen as the parent who has to say "No"

ABirdsEyeView · 27/10/2024 11:56

If the picture shows a hot chocolate with cream and marshmallows, that's how it should come! Because that picture is selling you the product - sneaking in extra costs is underhand, especially when you consider the cost of coffee shop drinks!

NuffSaidSam · 27/10/2024 12:13

MsCactus · 27/10/2024 11:14

I think if someone is struggling to read a menu and prices when ordering something they probably need a carer or an interpreter to help them buying things in all shops, not just Costa.

Imo Costa menus say very clearly that marshmallows and cream costs extra. When you read the hot choc price it's literally right there (one price with and one without) - I don't get why pps are annoyed by this. It's not hidden or anything

Well, no, because in most shops things are more clearly priced.

If you go into almost any shop the price on the item/shelf is what you pay. There aren't additional costs.

As a pp said, if you go into a restaurant and ask for cheese on your pasta or sauce or pepper, you still pay the price on the menu. In most places that menu will be written down so you can read it as slowly as you need to. It's not on a brightly lit screen, rotating round so you can only see the price 1/3 of the time.

Coffee shops of this kind are quite unique in this pricing structure/menu display.

MartinCrieffsLemon · 27/10/2024 12:27

SapphireSeptember · 27/10/2024 06:30

Gregg's don't charge for extra cream on their hot chocolate, at least not the ones I've been in to. Like Gregg's hot chocolate, it's decent and not too expensive.

They are supposed to. It's an extra unless it's a Speciality/Seasonal

MartinCrieffsLemon · 27/10/2024 12:50

Lyannaa · 27/10/2024 10:42

Upselling is entirely different to this. People know when they are being sold something. Whereas this is ambiguous because Costa is the only shop that charges extra. Starbucks doesn’t. The independent coffee shop I use on a Saturday doesn’t.

It's not the only place at all

MartinCrieffsLemon · 27/10/2024 12:52

If you need to count every single penny then use the app. It's very, very clear on the app when you're adding extras at a cost

MrsSkylerWhite · 27/10/2024 12:54

It’s obvious, isn’t it 🤷‍♀️

CherryValley5 · 27/10/2024 13:05

MartinCrieffsLemon · 27/10/2024 12:52

If you need to count every single penny then use the app. It's very, very clear on the app when you're adding extras at a cost

If you need to count every penny to this extent then I’d suggest that a coffee shop probably isn’t the place to be full stop. If adding 60p worth of cream to a hot chocolate is really going to push you over the edge then it wasn’t a wise choice to get one in the first place

Hankunamatata · 27/10/2024 13:31

It literally says extras on the price board with the cost next to them

Funkyslippers · 27/10/2024 15:27

burnoutbabe · 27/10/2024 10:52

It is inconsistent -Starbucks frappacino include cream on top but they always ask if you want it.

It makes for a very transactional purchase -do you want x blend -how much? Sprinkles? How much? Can you imagine that in subway? Or burrito bowls? They should make it clearer what's included and what's an optional extra.

Same with Costa frappucinos