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The Labour Party are bloody hypocrites

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prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 18:13

I think Angela rayner has got a nerve to start slashing the right to buy when she has profited from it, is she going to give the money back then that she pocketed from this scheme when she sold her house? I have always been a labour supporter and I am as working class as they come but I am so angry about this. I am not denying that the right to buy policy has its issues but it's just tinkering around the edges of the housing crisis and ignoring the real issues. I may be slightly emotional about this as I live in a one bedroomed council flat that I was planning on buying next year, my only hope of probably ever owning a property. Instead, if and when I choose to have children and I am overcrowded, they will now have to rehouse me themselves instead to a bigger property and I will now probably be a lifelong council tenant. Fabulous. Why are they targeting the people at the bottom? I can't support them anymore sadly.

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Isleoftights · 26/10/2024 22:01

'Labour has always been against the right to buy'. Not true ! The 'right to buy' policy first appeared in Labour's 1959 General Election manifesto.

purplebeansprouts · 26/10/2024 22:02

JRSKSSBH · 26/10/2024 22:00

Things are definitely free ….. to some people, like Angela Rayner selling her ex-council home, fudging the situation and avoiding tax. Or one of the recipients of Lord Ali’s largesse (free glasses, suits, football tickets, accommodaton, holidays, birthday parties) or Keir Starmer living rent free in No 10. How about Taylor Swift’s free blue light police convoy to Wembley (cost the British tax payer £150,000 but free to her, save coughing up for lots of freebies for lefty politicians).

The Taylor swift concerts would have bought in LOADs for the economy

Schnitzelschmitzel · 26/10/2024 22:05

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 21:27

The flat below me must have been bought under right to buy as it is privately owned and there is a couple and three children living in there. I'm not sure how much they are paying but I don't think they work so they are probably claiming housing benefit.

😂🙄

thepariscrimefiles · 26/10/2024 22:05

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What a load of fucking racist bollocks.

BanjoKnickers · 26/10/2024 22:10

thepariscrimefiles · 26/10/2024 22:05

What a load of fucking racist bollocks.

But unfortunately still allowed to vote Hmm

thepariscrimefiles · 26/10/2024 22:12

JRSKSSBH · 26/10/2024 22:00

Things are definitely free ….. to some people, like Angela Rayner selling her ex-council home, fudging the situation and avoiding tax. Or one of the recipients of Lord Ali’s largesse (free glasses, suits, football tickets, accommodaton, holidays, birthday parties) or Keir Starmer living rent free in No 10. How about Taylor Swift’s free blue light police convoy to Wembley (cost the British tax payer £150,000 but free to her, save coughing up for lots of freebies for lefty politicians).

'Keir Starmer living rent free in No 10'! Did all the previous Prime Ministers pay rent then?

Angela Rayner was investigated by Manchester Police and was found to have done nothing wrong.

sparemeatyre · 26/10/2024 22:19

purplebeansprouts · 26/10/2024 22:02

The Taylor swift concerts would have bought in LOADs for the economy

And loads to TS, and her encourage who budgeted for secure transport. Did TS & Co save £150k, right into their own pockets.

thepariscrimefiles · 26/10/2024 22:21

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 21:27

The flat below me must have been bought under right to buy as it is privately owned and there is a couple and three children living in there. I'm not sure how much they are paying but I don't think they work so they are probably claiming housing benefit.

Are you saying that someone bought this and is renting it out or that the people living there bought it and are claiming housing benefit?

If it is the former, that is a good example of how right to buy reduces the amount of council properties and often ends up in the hands of private landlords.

If it's the latter, I doubt that the people who live there would qualify for a mortgage if none of them are working.

VivX · 26/10/2024 22:21

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 21:57

With three small children under about 5 in a one bedroom flat I doubt they are working from home somehow!

I worked from home with children under 5 - I just had to do it when they were asleep at night or dh was around. I was very lucky I'm in a profession that could accommodate this - but it's not an impossible scenario, although it does require a bit of organisation and coordination.

Also, unless you are stalking them, how do you know that they aren't working strange shift patterns?

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 22:33

We share a driveway and our front doors are right next to each other and we do chat sometimes plus I work from home occasionally so I do notice the comings and goings but no I'm not a stalker.

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JenniferBooth · 26/10/2024 22:43

BanjoKnickers · 26/10/2024 20:43

My mum lives in a three bedroomed council house and has asked to downsize and she has been told no.

This is because all the fuckers in one-bedroom flats that she could downsized to have bought them at giveaway prices.

(How big was that flat you were planning to buy, OP? Grin)

Yeah cos those who dont have living proof that they have had sex without contraception dont even deserve ONE bedroom 🙄

Opentooffers · 26/10/2024 22:44

Sounds like you are suffering from jealousy of what some other people have. Your mother and your aunt will of had to pay bedroom tax for under-occupancy.
So you have a degree, you work, you are childless and saving, yet somehow you think your lot will be to just move to a bigger council house when you have DC's? Have you already met the man you plan to procreate with and know that between yo, you'll never earn enough to get your own place? If that's the case, you don't earn enough to be having DC's either maybe.
I don't blame people for buying under the scheme, it worked for them, though I am against the scheme ever having been in existence. But for the scheme, you might of not had to wait 6 years for a flat. However, interesting your default at 19 was to apply for a council home. Is it just because that's how your family got houses? Whereas, my default was to assume I'd buy at some point and my DS's I'd guess would be the same - though likely we'll in the future, not by 25.
Count your blessings maybe, you got provided somewhere cheap to rent as a single person at a relatively young age. That's not bad going these days, a lot will be 30 by the time living independently from parents occurs.Now you can save to buy in future as a choice, freeing up the flat when you do.

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 22:46

No because bedroom tax only applies if you don't work and claim housing benefit.

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Opentooffers · 26/10/2024 22:52

A lot of people don't work the system as well as you have, and get to move out by 25, so well done for that. You weren't homeless, and had a 3 bedroom house with your mum you could of chosen to stay in while saving. Your need is not desperate unless your DM was abusive or unbearable to live with.

redorangeye110w · 26/10/2024 22:52

I worked with a young man years ago. He bragged that he registered to live with his nan when he was 16. He never did, then age 21 he bought her council house for 30k (a gift from his parents). That house was worth at least 100k at the time. Nowadays nearer 300k.

He was delighted with himself.

That's right to buy for you.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 26/10/2024 22:57

Keir Starmer living rent free in No 10

This is such a laughable criticism that it can't be serious, even though the rest of the post did read as a serious complaint.

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 22:57

As far as I can remember the only requirement to join the housing list was living in shared accommodation which living with parents is classed as.

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BIossomtoes · 26/10/2024 23:13

Keir Starmer living rent free in No 10.

It’s part of the PM’s remuneration package to help compensate for the entirely inadequate salary, Starmer claims less than his entitlement.

Rosybud88 · 26/10/2024 23:21

Never been a fan of the scheme - it’s outdated and unfair - plenty of private renters who haven’t benefited from subsidised rent with no entitlement to buy a property at a subsidised price who will be locked into paying extortionate rent forever with no hope of buying a property.

BIossomtoes · 26/10/2024 23:23

Rosybud88 · 26/10/2024 23:21

Never been a fan of the scheme - it’s outdated and unfair - plenty of private renters who haven’t benefited from subsidised rent with no entitlement to buy a property at a subsidised price who will be locked into paying extortionate rent forever with no hope of buying a property.

The rents aren’t subsidised. Local authorities that still own social housing have to maintain housing finances completely separately. Housing associations don’t receive any public funding to their rent account.

BanjoKnickers · 26/10/2024 23:41

BIossomtoes · 26/10/2024 23:23

The rents aren’t subsidised. Local authorities that still own social housing have to maintain housing finances completely separately. Housing associations don’t receive any public funding to their rent account.

But this is an unusual definition of subsidy. They certainly are subsidised in the sense that a valuable income-generating asset is rented out at below market value. The local authority could make more money for the public good if the flat was rented out at its true value. There is a substantial "opportunity cost" in tying up public assets in this way.

VivX · 26/10/2024 23:48

prestatynprlck · 26/10/2024 22:57

As far as I can remember the only requirement to join the housing list was living in shared accommodation which living with parents is classed as.

Yes, but as @Opentooffers said, why was that almost your default? - You mentioned that you applied for council housing at 19 and remained on it until 25, when you got a council flat.

You must not even have finished your degree at 19.

AnneLovesGilbert · 27/10/2024 00:26

VivX · 26/10/2024 23:48

Yes, but as @Opentooffers said, why was that almost your default? - You mentioned that you applied for council housing at 19 and remained on it until 25, when you got a council flat.

You must not even have finished your degree at 19.

At 25 she was apparently studying while working pt.

PepoAmericano · 27/10/2024 00:47

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Beezknees · 27/10/2024 06:15

Opentooffers · 26/10/2024 22:52

A lot of people don't work the system as well as you have, and get to move out by 25, so well done for that. You weren't homeless, and had a 3 bedroom house with your mum you could of chosen to stay in while saving. Your need is not desperate unless your DM was abusive or unbearable to live with.

To be fair, while I don't agree with RTB, OP hasn't "worked the system" she wouldn't have been offered the property if there was somebody who needed it more at the time.

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