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Fiancé texts me lists of jobs to do.

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Croo · 24/10/2024 23:55

My fiancé and I share a 1 year old baby. He works full time, I work part time on an online business. My hours vary, anything from 4 to 8 hours a day. Essentially, I work whenever baby is napping or sleeping. In between working, I’m of course looking after our baby. I think juggling work and baby makes things more difficult as other things, like housework, end up being down the priority list. Some evenings I don’t stop until 9pm or 10pm, and I just want to relax to go to sleep.

Our relationship has become increasingly strained, and I feel constantly criticised by him. He rarely has a positive word to say about me, my parenting, it feels like almost constant critique. One thing he does is text me lists of jobs most mornings, not ‘would you mind doing this today’ just a list of half a dozen (sometimes more) things he wants me to get done. Organising drawers, washing clothes, admin around the house, that sort of thing. So the first thing I wake up to and read in the morning is his list. If I don’t get through the list, there will be some sort of dig or criticism later down the line, or he will say how much more time I have compared to him. On the rare occasion he has our baby for the day, he will make an example of how much he managed to get done whilst also looking after the baby, often quite smugly.

He also criticises the way I deal with the baby at night, often moaning that the baby has kept him up for ages so he might as well do it. I’ve tried my best, but sometimes the only way the baby will settle is if I cuddle them for hours, and some nights I just don’t have that in me so will instead do a routine of shushing and patting, which he criticises as saying I’ve left the baby distressed and that he comforts baby properly when he does it. I’ve told him that that’s fine, he can do it himself, and he’s now decided he’s not going to sleep in bed with me tonight.

Is everyone’s relationship like this when they’ve got a baby? I feel so tired and fed up and like I can’t do anything right! I feel he doesn’t appreciate the toll it takes, being a full time mum and also running an online business, plus general life things. I don’t even have time for self care, like doing my makeup, which I used to love. If I have a ‘lie in’ - basically anything after 7am - I get told I’ve woken up too late and should be getting up earlier to complete the chores or things that need to be done. Believe it or not, we used to have a great relationship.

OP posts:
Naunet · 25/10/2024 08:50

Sounds like one of those men who thinks having a baby should make his life easier and turn you into his personal house skivvy. Tell him he’s not your boss, you already have a job, and it’s not to be his maid.

LemonPeonies · 25/10/2024 09:03

I had a similar situation with my exH, although we didn't have a child together (thank goodness). He was controlling and abusive in other ways, we both worked full time, him in a Monday to Friday 9 to 5 and me working 12 hour nursing shifts 3 or 4 a week. He saw that as me having more time off so I was expected to do all the housework. He wrote and left me lists on paper every time I had a day off: housework, get crickets for the lizard, food etc for the cat, etc etc. His weekends off he got drunk and did fuck all. Clearly I got sick of it and left. You're working AND looking after a baby, when he's got the baby he's not juggling work at the same time. He can't see from your point of view. I'd be telling him where to go. I bet this isn't the only way he tries to control you.

HappyFitnessQueen · 25/10/2024 09:08

This is crazy and so disrespectful to you. You need to stand up to him. No lists...no expectations...apart from getting through your day having got your work completed and with a fed and happy baby.

I bet he wasn't working when he was looking after the baby and doing whichever jobs he chose to do?

If you don't stand up to him now then this will only get worse. If it isn't an abusive relationship already then it's going to become one.

wombat15 · 25/10/2024 09:41

If DH sent me a list of jobs to do each day my immediate response would be to tell him to f* off. I wouldn't do that to him either unless he asked for one. You are working as well as looking after your baby during the day so how on earth does he think you will have time to do other jobs. Not sure why he is pleased with himself for doing housework rather than spending time with his child when he is at home either.

Your DH seems to be confusing himself with your boss.

JFDIYOLO · 25/10/2024 09:48

Their true nature often only shows with changing behaviour during pregnancy and kids.

Don't get pregnant again, if you decide to keep him. This behaviour will escalate if you have more.

You have to snip this behaviour off. It's going to be hard, but if you don't, it will grind on.

Is there anyone you can call on to back you up? Your parents, sister, friends, a trustworthy MIL?

Is there any possibility of getting help in the house? Obviously it's an expense so not for everyone, but laundry, cleaning, gardening, decluttering etc can be outsourced, so you are free to focus on the baby.

wombat15 · 25/10/2024 09:48

GreyCarpet · 25/10/2024 06:31

OP, my exh could be a bit like this when our daughter was born.

He just didn't understand what caring for a baby entailed and genuinely believed I had all the time in the world. He even tried setting me a 'time and motion' study to complete so he could see how I spent my day! Obviously, I refused.

What made all the difference was me going away for a week when she was 1 and leaving him in sole charge of her and my 8 year old son (his stepson).

He did a great ioh, tbf, but als0 admitted he had no idea how hard it would be or how every waking moment was filled with something.

He would set his alarm to get up an hour before she woke to get housework done and so that he could take them out each day and still found thar he couldn't keep on top of everything (he did mostly but I returned to a pile of clean laundry that he just hadn't had time to put away).

Having sole charge for a baby most of the day one day a week, as my exh did) just didn't give any insight into the reality of day to day glare and the time it took to get things done.

Anyway, he apologised for being a dick, fully admitted hed had no idea of the reality and never once complained again about how much time I had during the day again.

Is something like that a possibility before you follow the more drastic advice of kick him out?

I think most of us didn't realise how all consuming it was until we actually did it.

Even if he doesn't realise how much work it is, he is still not her boss. Also, OP is working too.

Autumndayz77 · 25/10/2024 09:52

Yes I had similar from my ex. Altho it was a handwritten list. I also got comments like I can see you’ve done fuck all, all day! Like your DP he did not pull his weight with DD. He did use to say I’ll have DD so you can do x job, like he was doing me a favour!

im not going to lie he actually did plenty of housework, but he was a verbally abusive prick about it amongst other things. I did hire a cleaner for a while after I asked him to leave!

User37482 · 25/10/2024 09:54

Just leave, this isn’t going to get better. I’m guessing he doesn’t do much of the stuff on his list?

ChillWith · 25/10/2024 10:21

You are so much better than this. I would tell him where he could shove his lists and then search up virtual assistants and leave those out for him. When he sees the price he will realise the error of his ways. If he doesn't, then remove yourself and your baby from the horrible environment he has created.

Biffbaff · 25/10/2024 10:26

No, not everyone has a relationship like this.

He treats you terribly.

Daisymay6 · 25/10/2024 10:34

That's abusive
Why are you putting up with it
I'd start by ignoring his lists and planning how I could leave
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MrsSkylerWhite · 25/10/2024 10:36

Why on earth do you tolerate that?

I’d have told my husband exactly where he could put his list if he’d ever tried that one (he never did because he’s a fair person).

WaltzingWaters · 25/10/2024 10:40

No, this is not how it should be with a baby. Not normal at all. He sounds as though he’s your boss, not an fiancé. And not even a nice boss, one you’d be looking to find a new job because of.

CheekySwan · 25/10/2024 10:40

Send him a list of things that need doing outside of the home seeing as he is out, he do the shopping, take the car to the garage, bring in tea as you have that much to do already with his list, work and looking after a 1 year old, you won't have time to cook, etc........Also, give him a list of the 'mans' jobs that need doing in the house, this needs fixing, this need replacing, bins need putting out, lawnmower needs oiling, that sort of thing

As for the baby, get daddy a badge, father of the year because he can get LO to sleep quicker

ItGhoul · 25/10/2024 10:42

The only item on your list of things to do should be 'tell your fiance to fuck off'

Fizzballs · 25/10/2024 10:44

Working like that around baby sounds impossibly difficult, without an arse of a "partner" with his lists.

That has to stop and if he can't see that he needs to go.

Nothatgingerpirate · 25/10/2024 10:50

Quite incredible.
I never had babies and married for convenience.
It's not just men who sometimes put themselves first.
Bastard.
Leave.

Velvian · 25/10/2024 10:59

The only response to those messages are Fuck. Off. What a dickhead.

Don't tell me the baby has his surname, as he has dangled the carrot of marriage at some unspecified point in the future.

Elphamouche · 25/10/2024 11:15

No this isn’t what it’s like. I have a 7month old and if my DH sent me lists, repeatedly dug at me for my parenting and not adhering to his housework demands, I’d probably be doing time.

Your fiance is a fucking wanker.

Hellskitchen24 · 25/10/2024 11:48

And what redeeming qualities does he have? I’m assuming he must have had had some for you to want to have his child.

Unfortunately some men show their true colours when you have a baby. They believe that they have finally got their skivvy in the bag; you raise his child, have his dinner on the table at 7pm and make sure his skiddy pants are washed and put away for him. All he does is work and his life never changes. Win win.

You need to bin him.

DecafDodger · 25/10/2024 11:52

On the rare occasion he has our baby for the day, he will make an example of how much he managed to get done whilst also looking after the baby, often quite smugly.

That's on days when he also works 4-8 hours while taking care of the baby, right?

TheYearOfSmallThings · 25/10/2024 11:53

Have you considered sending back a list saying:

  1. Who do you think you are? My manager?
  2. Organise your own fucking drawers
  3. You are not the boss of me
  4. Your lists are annoying me
  5. Go fuck yourself
PhoebeFeels · 25/10/2024 11:54

School of Andrew Tate! What a parent he is going to be as children grow up (you will probably be expected to have 3 or 4 more).
From reading other threads over the years, men like this never improve, they just become stronger as you become more subservient.

Manchesterbythesea · 25/10/2024 12:07

You asked..Is everyone’s relationship like this when they’ve got a baby?
No it’s not. This is a form of abuse. Your husband is a bully. Do you have any support, someone you can go to? Mum, sister etc?

QueenBitch666 · 25/10/2024 12:35

He's abusive

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