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40 years ago parents didn't stay with unwell babies?

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UndertheCedartree · 24/10/2024 20:40

Am I right in thinking that 40 years ago if a baby was taken to the big city hospital (from being born at the local town hospital i.e critically ill/likely to die) that the parents and definitely the dad did not go with them?

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Blondiney · 24/10/2024 22:40

I broke my femur when I was 2. Was in hospital with my leg in traction for god knows how long. Mum came during visiting hours, apparently.

Purplebunnie · 24/10/2024 22:40

DutchCowgirl · 24/10/2024 20:48

40 years ago when i was a toddler i had an operation and my mother was with me day and night in the hospital.

Maybe further back.. in the 50s and 60s when larger families were more common and traveling wasn’t that easy.

The hospitals didn't allow you to visit other than the allotted time

I had my tonsils removed early 60's and only saw my parents during the allotted hour. My dad was so upset about it he wanted me to come home for the weekend. I think he thought I wasn't going to make it. I was 3.1/2 and yes I do remember it. My bed was next but one to the end wall. Birmingham Children's Hospital

queenofthewild · 24/10/2024 22:41

I had my appendix out about 35 years ago. My mother was allowed to come for visiting times, but not permitted to stay overnight.

There was an Indian child at the end of the ward (traditional long ward) and his family never left his side. I recall it being seen as very peculiar at the time and my mother muttering that it was the slippery slope to parents doing the job of nurses if everyone behaved like that.

Lytlethings · 24/10/2024 22:41

oakleaffy · 24/10/2024 21:27

That must have been so tough for you and him.

I hope you were able to bond properly when he came home.

Things were so different then. I had a tiny baby who would not feed and no support once I was home. Babies were only taking to the ward for feeding so mothers could rest.
Babies were put in their own room from birth and fed every 4 hours. Now he would be fed every hour I guess. The one time I fed him in hospital he kept falling his sleep and the nurse kept flicking hard on his heel.

Rikitiki78 · 24/10/2024 22:43

I don’t think that was the case.

SapphireSeptember · 24/10/2024 22:44

itsjustasecrethandshake · 24/10/2024 20:51

SIL was a preemie (36 weeks so not awfully early) 60-odd years ago and needed to stay in hosp. MIL left her there and just phoned up 9 days later to see if she was still alive.

Fucking hell. That's cold. 😟

Flopsythebunny · 24/10/2024 22:45

I stayed with mine 41 years ago. Dad wasn't on the scene

UndertheCedartree · 24/10/2024 22:45

NameChangeChildhoodIllness · 24/10/2024 21:41

Sorry to hear this @UndertheCedartree
I’m 48 and about 10 years ago - when I was in therapy - realised that my parents had ‘abandoned’ me as a newborn baby. When I challenged my mother on this - she was kept in at local hospital, I was put in an ambulance as a newborn to Bristol Children’s Hospital and given life saving surgery at 2 days old and my parents only visited when I was 5 days old - she apologised and just said ‘that’s how things were then’. I was in hospital for 6 weeks and I think she was then nearby. I had at least two other reasonably long stays in hospital - when I was 3 my mother did stay overnight (camp bed or local accommodation) when I was 8 she was only there in daytime. I was horrified to hear how some children’s hospitals had visiting hours still in 70s and 80s.

what made me work out the timing of when I was born was joining a Facebook group for other people with my condition and hearing the story of a woman similar to me in age who was also sent off to Bristol from the southwest and her mother was in the ambulance and her dad drove behind. My dad didn’t do that. I do have an older sister though who needed looking after.

I’ve name changed for this but do message me if you’d like. It can be hard to find out. Maybe you could join a Facebook group for your condition or see if there is now a charity for adults who had it as children, as I did? It’s been helpful to compare notes.

Thank you I will message you.

Exactly the same I felt abandoned as a newborn.

My mum was too scared to go and my dad didn't want to go as they thought I was going to die so he didn't want to get attached.

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Frith2013 · 24/10/2024 22:46

No one stayed in with me when I was 1 (slightly more than 40 years ago).

ZoeyBartlett · 24/10/2024 22:46

Topseyt123 · 24/10/2024 22:31

I was born in 1966 and had two operations on my eyes to surgically correct a serious squint. One when I was three (I think) and the next when I was four. So it was over 50 years ago now.

On both occasions my mother stayed at the hospital day and night, and I was in for several days each time.

My surgery was privately funded, which we could only do because my parents had BUPA cover at work so I wonder if that was what made the difference and allowed her to stay. I seem to hazily remember us having a private side room with two beds in it - a normal sized single bed for my mother and a child sized one for me.

I suspect different hospitals had different policies, and the option to go private might make a difference.

I had the same op a few years later and no options for parents to stay. I vividly remember refusing to let them stick something in my eye and them leaving it, then when my parents left, the matron came and bollocked me and said if I didn't have it done they'd have to call my parents back and tell them how naughty I'd been and how cross they would be,

I was v upset but let them do test. Fortunately I'd forgotten my teddy, and my Dad realised and came back a few hours later with it. I was still v upset and told him why. He had words with me there and matron apologised to me.

I think they visited a few times but it was quite a distance. I was in for 2 weeks.

Shesnotelectric · 24/10/2024 22:47

2011 my son was just about to turn 3 needed an operation to fix his busted elbow.
I was given the option to stay or go home, of course I chose to stay but the staff were very put out (he wasnt admitted to ward until 10:30pm maybe that didnt help) made clear they preferred parents to go home! There were 8 children on the ward and only one other parent stayed. I was given a camp bed no blanket or anything. Although it was July I remember it being bloody freezing in there! 🤣
Visiting hours were still really limited in our local hospital then as well so I had to leave the ward outside of visiting hours and meal times.

FreeRider · 24/10/2024 22:47

I had my adenoids out in 1976 and my parents weren't allowed to stay, and only allowed to visit during visiting hours. I don't think my father actually came at all, and I know my mother wasn't there when I was taken down to theatre for the op...wasn't there when I woke up, either.

whyamiawakestillitssolate · 24/10/2024 22:48

I was born by caesarean in the 70s - my mum stayed in hospital for over a week recovering and said all the babies were taken away at night and mums just got to sleep through. In some ways I can see this would be great for physical recovery but I can’t imagine being parted from my newborn like that.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 24/10/2024 22:52

I had a squint correction in 1988/9 and remember my mum visiting afterwards rather than being there the whole time.

TenWeeCaramelJoeys · 24/10/2024 22:52

My sister had a major operation when she was about 8 (late 1970s) and was also generally in and out of hospital on a regular basis. My mum could only visit her during visiting hours. Two buses in each direction every single day, except when the minister of her church gave her a lift. She said he drove like a maniac😆 We were left with various neighbours and I hated it and only really understand how hard it must have been with hindsight. I don't remember my dad visiting her, but he probably did. She loved being in hospital!

UndertheCedartree · 24/10/2024 22:54

Mostlyoblivious · 24/10/2024 21:47

That’s really hard for you, I’m sorry. I think as the thread shows a lot has changed both for hospitals and also the way people are raised and as such how they think etc. Assuming someone is in their late 40’s now then the medics and nursing staff at their births could well have been born in the 1930’s and 1940’s and that could possibly be a very different mindset - I think that it is only in the 1980’s that operations on babies included anaesthetics as it was thought they didn’t feel pain. It’s frightening really.

Still, I cannot imagine not going with my baby

No anaesthetics for babies? That's awful!

And me too, I'd want to be with my baby.

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Kirbert2 · 24/10/2024 22:54

BrendaSmall · 24/10/2024 22:22

We both took time off work!
our children were and still are even though they’re now adults with their own children, our priority!

My son has been in hospital for almost 8 months. You’d have no job left if you tried getting 8+ months off.

pollyglot · 24/10/2024 22:55

45 years ago, my 10-month old DS1 was hospitalised with D&V. I stayed with him for 4 days, and basically saved a nurse the job of tending him - bathing, feeding, observing, in the isolation room. I slept in a reclining chair. Then 40 years ago, DD, aged 2, developed a serious eye infection, and I stayed with her for 4 days also, in a bed beside her hitched up to tubes and drips. Every time my DS2 was admitted with a life-threatening asthma attack, I stayed.

Fortunefavoursthebrave · 24/10/2024 23:00

I was in hospital for a week aged 5, (mid 80’s)I can still remember crying myself to sleep at night missing my parents, feeling completely alone. They came at visiting time only, that was just the way it was back then.
I couldn’t imagine doing that now if my kids were in hospital.

Mipil · 24/10/2024 23:01

I was in hospital for several times for several weeks in the 70s aged 4-6. Mothers could stay with babies/toddlers in the side rooms. Visiting hours were twice a day but, like a PP said, it was actually quite fun. There was a dining area at one end of the ward, where everyone ate together, a teacher who did schoolwork with us in the mornings and an occupational therapist who did craft activities and organised games with us, and they got one of the older kids to read everyone a bedtime story. The nurses let us dress up in nurses costumes and “help them” ie follow them around and get us to talk or play with children who were bed bound 😂

In some ways, maybe it was less scary as it was like being at school and having fun with lots of kids. They were pretty lax about letting parents stay longer to settle a child if they were upset or wait until they slept after evening visiting time. Evening visiting went on until bedtime, although older kids could go to the TV room or playroom if they wanted to stay up later.

PrettyPickle · 24/10/2024 23:04

This happened to my close friend in 1982 and she gave birth in a local community hospital and several days in, the Mother and baby were transferred to York Hospital due to the babies declining health.

Dad was allowed to visit but only during visiting hours until they felt the baby didn't have long left and then he was called to be with his wife and child.

UndertheCedartree · 24/10/2024 23:05

ForPearlViper · 24/10/2024 21:58

I think I must have been around 7 when I had my tonsils out and was in hospital for 3/4 day. I have only a fleeting recollection of it but my parents weren't there apart from visiting time. I can't remember being very upset so I can only assume that it wasn't too traumatising!

I am not saying it was right but I think children can more resilient that we now think they can.

I have severe trauma from being separated from my mum as a newborn so I can't really agree.

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Lovelylilylane · 24/10/2024 23:06

GoForARun · 24/10/2024 20:48

Same story here - my mum only visited at visiting time as far as I remember.

I was about six when I had my appendix out, circa 1972 , and (oddly!) I really liked it. The nurses were glamorous, kind and lovely and there was a little school room with a nice teacher who did lessons with us.

How times have changed.

Kirbert2 · 24/10/2024 23:10

Lovelylilylane · 24/10/2024 23:06

How times have changed.

There’s a school room and teachers at the hospital my son is in but I believe it is only for children who’ve been in hospital for months.

They also have scouts in that room every Monday and cooking/baking every Tuesday.

UndertheCedartree · 24/10/2024 23:11

OptimismvsRealism · 24/10/2024 22:01

24/7 with no respite and you miss work, other responsibilities? Even the idea you'd feel bad about this illustrates how hard parenthood is now. You don't need to be with them - they are in the safest place possible. It only stopped because of staff cuts.

Yes, I would always be with my children.

No, they are not always fine, I wasn't.

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