If the UK has to pay reparations, will other countries?

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If the UK is made to pay reparations where will that leave other nations who were or indeed still are involved in slavery?

The same as above.,

@Danajune11

She didn't use it as an endearment. So that's not relevant

She said "you're being a cunt" and then she went on to insult me more

As you like to say to others

I wasn't talking to you

Well we could probably determine the countries where genocide was committed, would have been better of without invasion

Many people having their ass handed to them this much would have left by page 30.

Well we could probably determine the the countries where genocide was committed, would have been better of without invasion

Which Caribbean countries had a genocide? I can find reference to one in Haiti in 1802 but nothing after.

I don't like slavery. But there are people still enslaved today.

I don't like genocide or the maltreatment of women and children - these still happen.

Even if the UK had magically 18 trillion dollars tomorrow, do you expect that money would solve?

Slavery would be even worse if the UK had stayed at home.

That doesn't say who you are referring to. As your little bullying comments are purposefully vague.

Why should any poster leave a thread?

I certainly would never be bullied out of any thread, and I don't think any other poster would either.

By the way, "ass handed to them," I haven't heard anyone other than my 12 year old nephew say that phrase. You don't usually hear grown women saying it.

Oh, you must be new.

My answer to that is, today is a new day and perhaps the pursuit of money should be made to any rich slave owners, and traders and not the current impoverished ordinary taxpaying peoples of the UK who were not responsible for historic slavery? History is not our fault, it is not our responsibility, we have no spare money: stop trying to use emotional manipulation in an attempt to pour on spurious collective guilt and bully us into giving something we do not have.

Nope. Certainly not. Are you?

Having your ass handed to you is common parlance on mn, pal.

I'm now musing if any of the descendents of victims of the Highland Clearances are eligible for reparations. And if not why not.

I've never seen anyone
"with their ass handed to them" (lol!l)
as unruly rabbit eloquently said, leave a thread.

Most people stand up for themselves. They don't let bullies run them off a thread.

I saw OPs get absolutely savaged by bullies many times on here. They always stood up to the bullies

I disagree. I've never seen it on any thread.

Slavery would be even worse if the UK had stayed at home

Ah here, saviour complex much?

So the UK colonialised countries to help people? Really?

Most people just want to look after themselves; a government/ruling class is like an awkward mother-in-law, generally a pain the arse but "our" pain in the arse so we're allowed to complain about her but outsiders aren't.

The colonisers swoop in and convince themselves they are saving the poor savages from themselves but the savages would prefer to decide for themselves, rather than being imposed on by the outsiders.

I'm surprised by the amount of people on this thread that can't understand that people just wanted to be left to look after their own countries. It's as if UK colonisation was the only way that history could have gone.

See, this is even more suspect than thinking the government can stump up money without tapping the taxpayer.

Or maybe you have confirmation bias?

Because you've seen it, you think other people have seen it.

So the UK colonialised countries to help people? Really?

No, they ended slavery to help people.

Yes I hate that idea of "colonisers saved the poor savages".

The people that were there wanted to be left alone and to develop, themselves.

@sofiamofia Should a rape victim be forced to prove how they still suffer from the effects of the rape before the rapist is held accountable? Is the act of rape not enough to justify him being held to account?

Should the offspring or the grandchildren, or the great-grandchildren or the great-great-grandchildren of the rapist, plus also all their friends and neighbours, also have to be held to account years after the rapist has died, even though they are not responsible for the historic actions of the rapist?

@Danajune11 That's a well written post.

It may be well-written, but one would hope you can see what a silly argument it is.

But the UK also benefitted hugely from slavery.

I they can't benefit from slaves for ages, then end it and say "hey we are great ".

They still have to acknowledge what happened before.

Britain was the first in history to end slavery (an unprecedented and contested step at the time, and in an era where slavery was normative). Without which, those enslaved would probably have been slaves either way, and would potentially still be slaves, or have been so until a much later date and without everything Britain has contributed/paid since in ending slavery.

Well, it's good to know that we shouldn't feel obliged to save anyone. I wouldn't want to develop a saviour complex.

Yes going back to talk about Governments, i think that later governments should apologise, especially as countries are still suffering today.