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If the UK has to pay reparations, will other countries?

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Controversialname · 24/10/2024 19:07

If the UK is made to pay reparations where will that leave other nations who were or indeed still are involved in slavery?

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NoisyDenimShaker · 26/10/2024 20:13

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 19:15

I wonder will they get an apology out of Keir?

I doubt it. Nobody alive today had anything to do with any of it, so there's no need to apologise.

We also don't want to give any ammo to countries who have their hand out.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 26/10/2024 20:14

I don’t know, I’m rather fond of guinea piggies….

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:15

Kirova · 26/10/2024 20:13

Um, what?

I don't think she said, or meant, any of these things! We've covered crocodiles, hippos, guinea pigs and apples, but no goldfish were mentioned as far as I could see.

Did you read the thread beyond this one page?

She has said all of those things to me on this thread.

NoisyDenimShaker · 26/10/2024 20:15

FrippEnos · 26/10/2024 20:13

Can you try to think of other countries. Why do you think that they are asking for reparations From the UK

For all this talk of countries, what this is about is politicians.
Why are they doing this?
Because its a vote winner
Because its good for a politician to have something or someone that can be painted as a villain,
Because they can promise something that won't happen and then blame the villain that they have created.
Its a good distraction to have something that you can shove in the media so that you can hide behind it.
Because its good for a politician to divide the people so that they can get away with more.
And because when you have little or no money in the pot due to your own corruption or incompetence you can distract people by saying 'look at what they should give us', 'they owe us'.

Hear, hear! This is why "reparations" are a con.

Do these countries think we can't spot that??

Puzzledandpissedoff · 26/10/2024 20:15

Why is the UK the only country being asked to pay though?

It isn't, @Portakalkedi; CARICOM's 10 point plan refers throughtout to "European Governments" who they perceive to be responsible not only for the original atrocities but also for the claimed ongoing harm, though whether they'll get any further with other nations remains to be seen

There's also the point that most countries report principally on matters which affect themselves, so with Starmer and Charles both visiting the Caribbean at the moment we're hearing a lot about the British end of things

caricom.org/caricom-ten-point-plan-for-reparatory-justice/

Kirova · 26/10/2024 20:16

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:15

Did you read the thread beyond this one page?

She has said all of those things to me on this thread.

Yep, but I didn't see any of those comments!

NewGreenDuck · 26/10/2024 20:16

I think that the test should be hippo or guinea pig. It would take 270 guinea pigs to equal 1 pygmy hippo.

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:17

Kirova · 26/10/2024 20:13

Um, what?

I don't think she said, or meant, any of these things! We've covered crocodiles, hippos, guinea pigs and apples, but no goldfish were mentioned as far as I could see.

Goldfish were indeed mentioned on this thread. She told me that a goldfish was more intelligent than me.

Unrulyrabbit also called me thick, stupid, a child and that I have low IQ.

She's a massive bully

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 26/10/2024 20:17

Maybe we can ask for all the guinea pigs to be returned?

We should definitely try and get them away from Peru!

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:19

Kirova · 26/10/2024 20:16

Yep, but I didn't see any of those comments!

You know how mumsnet works right. Those posts were reported for abuse by me, and mumsnet deleted them.

You can still see what she said at the time, in my replies to her at the time .

She called me thick and stupid and that a goldfish was more clever than me.

She's one of the vilest bullies I've seen on mumsnet

Unrulyrabbit · 26/10/2024 20:20

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:13

Bullies always run away when confronted dont they @unrulyrabbit

Or just keep snapping around your ankles.

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:21

Unrulyrabbit · 26/10/2024 20:20

Or just keep snapping around your ankles.

Are you not ashamed for what you said in any way to me?

Do you ever think how people feel after you are cruel to them on here?

You said so many disgusting things to me on here

Unrulyrabbit · 26/10/2024 20:21

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:17

Goldfish were indeed mentioned on this thread. She told me that a goldfish was more intelligent than me.

Unrulyrabbit also called me thick, stupid, a child and that I have low IQ.

She's a massive bully

I haven't mentioned goldfish once on this thread.

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:23

Unrulyrabbit · 26/10/2024 20:21

I haven't mentioned goldfish once on this thread.

Yes you did.
And what about your other long list of insults towards me?

What about when you called me a child with low IQ?

Are you sorry for that one?

Unrulyrabbit · 26/10/2024 20:24

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:19

You know how mumsnet works right. Those posts were reported for abuse by me, and mumsnet deleted them.

You can still see what she said at the time, in my replies to her at the time .

She called me thick and stupid and that a goldfish was more clever than me.

She's one of the vilest bullies I've seen on mumsnet

😂

Not entirely accurate.

Happy for MN to re- instate my original posts for a 'truth check' though, go for it.

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 26/10/2024 20:25

@Unrulyrabbit there might be a demand for reparations coming alongside the apology.

Unrulyrabbit · 26/10/2024 20:26

"Are hippos vegetarian... "

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:26

Unrulyrabbit · 26/10/2024 20:24

😂

Not entirely accurate.

Happy for MN to re- instate my original posts for a 'truth check' though, go for it.

@unrulyrabbit lets just take one of your vile insults towards me.

You called me a child with Low IQ.

I and many other posters saw it.

Are you sorry for saying that?

FirstNationsEnglish · 26/10/2024 20:27

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 19:57

Sure look up why the Commonwealth countries are seeking reparations, that'll give you a good start.

Edited

I was looking at the CARICOM Ten Point Plan (never heard of it before). To be bluntly honest it just seemed a load of word soup to me. I did get the bit about psychologic rehabilitation / African knowledge programme - and understand the 'disconnect', but, sincerely, fail to see how financial 'reparation' from a generation of people who have nothing to do with historic slavery can assist the mental health of people who are feeling the psychological hurts of not being certain of their historical roots.

Type 2 diabetes and high blood pressure - I'm sorry, I cannot accept that modern ill health can be laid at the door of history. More, it's genetics and modern living.

Repatriation: how many CARICOM peoples currently living around the world truly want to be repatriated to the various African countries of their ancestors? The amount of folk coming to live in Europe from the Congo or Nigeria or Sudan or (name your country) would perhaps suggest that they are not the best places to live?

As an aside, I would hope that people who feel that way would be sympathetic to our Jewish friends who want to remain in their historic lands to live peacefully and without fear.

As many others have already said on this thread: how far back do you go and please treat other nations whose populations were enslaved, with the same measure. As a first nations English person, my ancestors were also enslaved by other nations. My more recent ancestors were exploited, if not enslaved, by the powerful and the rich to maintain the powerful and the rich. I am fortunate in that I do not dwell on historic wrongs and just make the most of my life as it is, now.

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:27

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 26/10/2024 20:25

@Unrulyrabbit there might be a demand for reparations coming alongside the apology.

Not your argument to get involved with

Unrulyrabbit · 26/10/2024 20:27

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 26/10/2024 20:25

@Unrulyrabbit there might be a demand for reparations coming alongside the apology.

😂

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 26/10/2024 20:28

Not your argument to get involved with

I wasn't talking to you.

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:28

Unrulyrabbit · 26/10/2024 20:24

😂

Not entirely accurate.

Happy for MN to re- instate my original posts for a 'truth check' though, go for it.

It's exactly accurate. As you well know.

So now you're denying you said those things.

I've been emailing mumsnet about your posts as you are one of the worst bullies to me ever on here .

I will happily ask mumsnet to show everyone what you said to me.

You called me thick, stupid, a child with low IQ.

Danajune11 · 26/10/2024 20:29

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 26/10/2024 20:28

Not your argument to get involved with

I wasn't talking to you.

You were talking about what I was saying.

Have you forgotten. ?

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 26/10/2024 20:30

Have you forgotten. ?

Yes.