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King charles Heckled in Australia

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Albaamy121 · 22/10/2024 23:16

Did anyone see that King Charles was heckled in Australia this week by an Australian senator, Lidia Thorpe.

She shouted at him "you are not my King, this is not your land, you have stolen our land".

Any thoughts?

I didn't see any thread on it, so I started this one.

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Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:27

Woolycardy · 23/10/2024 03:26

Its a perfectly easy question.

And I answered it? Did you have another question?

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Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:28

Aussiegirl123456 · 23/10/2024 03:26

I’ll call you them because I don’t want to assume your gender and cause another argument

You could say my poster name. That's the normal thing to do

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Sheri99 · 23/10/2024 03:29

Gads, I love humor!

Am not sure about all American's but I love Aussie, Brit humor is really good too. All cultures/ppl need to be able to laugh with and at themselves...without that, we are not human. I spend much time looking at comedy shows in any language I can understand - captions help. Humor is almost the same throughout the world, with few exceptions.

Have had both a Russian exchange student and a German exchange student. The German exchange student visited the first year, for a year. Then the Russian came for a year. The German came again for a second year and found out we had a Russian exchange student the previous year. The German student (enraged and gutteral of course) asked me: "That RUSSIAN didn't sleep in MY bed did she?!?!".😂

History is important when hosting various nations...it seems.

Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:29

Woolycardy · 23/10/2024 03:26

Wind up merchant.

What an intelligent argument! That's like something my 12 year old niece would say.

Would you like to contribute anything to this thread beyond your threw word posts, and digs at others?

I don't see you contributing any thoughts of your own yet

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OneDandyPoet · 23/10/2024 03:30

EverybodyLovesString · 23/10/2024 02:46

Can you explain what power the UK has over Australia? I'm not sure what you're referring to.

Australia is not a colony and there is a long history of English people using the term “colonials” to sneer at Australians.

Maybe not a great deal of legislative power but King Charles is still Australias head of state, which is actually a bit mad given that Britain no longer, and thankfully, is in an Empire, which was acquired by force.

Aussiegirl123456 · 23/10/2024 03:30

Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:28

You could say my poster name. That's the normal thing to do

It is with sincere apologies that I referred to you as them, instead of the normal thing to do and refer to you by your username. I hope in time you can find it within your heart to forgive my mishaps and recognise my horror of a mistake was caused with no ill intention.

Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:32

Aussiegirl123456 · 23/10/2024 03:30

It is with sincere apologies that I referred to you as them, instead of the normal thing to do and refer to you by your username. I hope in time you can find it within your heart to forgive my mishaps and recognise my horror of a mistake was caused with no ill intention.

I'd honestly be glad to never speak to you again, to be honest. You've been nasty since you got here. You haven't contributed anything. You've just insulted people.

Would you like to actually contribute your own thoughts on this thread topic?

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learieonthewildmoor · 23/10/2024 03:32

Charles was a visiting dignitary, invited by the Australian government, of which Lidia Thorpe is a member.
She’s an impulsive gobshite, who loves a bit of attention. She was thrown out of the Greens because she was so unpredictable and unprofessional. (She was in a relationship with a gangster and couldn’t see why that was a problem for an elected representative.)
There we’re so many ways she could have made her point without embarrassing our country. She went for the easiest, quickest one.
Australia has been running itself for a really long time, and blaming Charles for the racism entrenched in our system is a bit of a stretch.
Sure, start a conversation about whether Indigenous Australians feel Charles is anything other than a symbol of oppression. Organise a protest or two, write a letter to Albanese, stand up in Parliament and talk about it. Do something that actually going to forward the position of Indigenous Australians.
Heckling Charles at a formal function was just dumb and inappropriate.
I sincerely hope she gets voted out at the next election, and they start screening candidates better.

Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:32

OneDandyPoet · 23/10/2024 03:30

Maybe not a great deal of legislative power but King Charles is still Australias head of state, which is actually a bit mad given that Britain no longer, and thankfully, is in an Empire, which was acquired by force.

Exactly. The king is still Australia's head of state.

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Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:33

learieonthewildmoor · 23/10/2024 03:32

Charles was a visiting dignitary, invited by the Australian government, of which Lidia Thorpe is a member.
She’s an impulsive gobshite, who loves a bit of attention. She was thrown out of the Greens because she was so unpredictable and unprofessional. (She was in a relationship with a gangster and couldn’t see why that was a problem for an elected representative.)
There we’re so many ways she could have made her point without embarrassing our country. She went for the easiest, quickest one.
Australia has been running itself for a really long time, and blaming Charles for the racism entrenched in our system is a bit of a stretch.
Sure, start a conversation about whether Indigenous Australians feel Charles is anything other than a symbol of oppression. Organise a protest or two, write a letter to Albanese, stand up in Parliament and talk about it. Do something that actually going to forward the position of Indigenous Australians.
Heckling Charles at a formal function was just dumb and inappropriate.
I sincerely hope she gets voted out at the next election, and they start screening candidates better.

She definitely did it in a way that got her a lot of news headlines.

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Woolycardy · 23/10/2024 03:33

Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 00:16

I must read up some more about her, and what else she's done in the past.

She is interesting in a way.

How about doing that before having a go on here?

Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:35

Woolycardy · 23/10/2024 03:33

How about doing that before having a go on here?

Have you? Again, would you like to contribute any of your own thoughts at all on the topic.

Or are you going to continually take digs at other people, as you have been doing.

I have read about her. I would like to read more about her, to know more about her.

Do you know every single thing about her? Im sure you dont.

Don't be so high and mighty then

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EverybodyLovesString · 23/10/2024 03:36

Her term expires in 2028 so a few more years left of her calling women cunts and playing footsies with Hamas. She's said she's not going run again because she knows she won’t be re-elected.

Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:36

EverybodyLovesString · 23/10/2024 03:36

Her term expires in 2028 so a few more years left of her calling women cunts and playing footsies with Hamas. She's said she's not going run again because she knows she won’t be re-elected.

Some people are asking her to resign now

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Sheri99 · 23/10/2024 03:37

As I mentioned before:

I had a Russian exchange student for a year.

One of the most intelligent people I have ever encountered. She taught me so much about soup (to keep warm), how to wrap a scarf to keep my neck warm...and she made all "A" grades; she had studied English 10 (!) years and had a better grasp of english grammar than any American I know of!

Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:38

Sheri99 · 23/10/2024 03:37

As I mentioned before:

I had a Russian exchange student for a year.

One of the most intelligent people I have ever encountered. She taught me so much about soup (to keep warm), how to wrap a scarf to keep my neck warm...and she made all "A" grades; she had studied English 10 (!) years and had a better grasp of english grammar than any American I know of!

I asked you a question @sheri99

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Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:38

Sheri99 · 23/10/2024 03:37

As I mentioned before:

I had a Russian exchange student for a year.

One of the most intelligent people I have ever encountered. She taught me so much about soup (to keep warm), how to wrap a scarf to keep my neck warm...and she made all "A" grades; she had studied English 10 (!) years and had a better grasp of english grammar than any American I know of!

Did you tell her that you think colonisers are good people who colonise people for their own good?

Which is what you wrote on here

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OneDandyPoet · 23/10/2024 03:39

Woolycardy · 23/10/2024 03:23

And give them to who?

To the descendants of the people that they took all of these things forcefully from, over the hundreds of years of empire, descendant to descendant? This would be the right thing to do.

EverybodyLovesString · 23/10/2024 03:39

Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:36

Some people are asking her to resign now

Yes, but they have no power to compel her to resign. She's an elected senator. Unless she's convicted of a serious crime, she's there until 2028.

There's no point even passing a motion to condemn her behaviour. She’s a narcissistic attention-seeker. Better not to give her the oxygen of publicity.

learieonthewildmoor · 23/10/2024 03:45

Her last escapade was to get arrested for abusing men coming out of a strip club.
Like I said, impulsive and attention seeking.
Thorpe tried to attack Posie Parker when she came to Canberra.
She was sexually harassed by another member of Parliament and kept quiet about it. The only time she behaved with propriety was when she stood up in Parliament and read a speech about it, along with all the other women the creep had assaulted.
She’s not a serious person. She certainly doesn’t understand her responsibilities as a Member of Parliament.
Having indigenous representatives is really important. Thorpe is doing a terrible job.

R053 · 23/10/2024 03:47

Sheri99 · 23/10/2024 02:12

Why do MODERN day leaders/peoples have to apologize for something they didn't experience or do to others, themselves? JUST an example: My father treated my mother like a slave. Am I to expect my brother to apologize for what my father did, just because he is a male?

Am not defensive, just so very TIRED of those who think they can try to fix water that has already passed under the bridge, long, long ago. Blaming modern persons for past hurts and slights. It is racist to do so! Colonizing is not a 100% bad thing, as it spread civilization, education, medicine, law and order.

Another question: Why are those who took over tribes; tribes who killed thousands of others in other tribes; those who did not bring with them educational systems, religious charity/learning, medicine, law and order NOT despised as white persons - especially white Brits, white Americans, northern Europeans are despised??

Why are whites the only "bad" people these days who everyone wants to see apologize for the past? This is madness: anger about past events of history - 100s of years ago. We are going to colonize space next, so why not get mad about that now? Because it is ridiculous, just like this anger at colonization from the past.

I live in Australia and only learned about the First Nations people since being here. There is very little that was positive about what they went through. They were almost completely wiped out. Sometimes going on road trips in Australia you come across historical plaques stating that massacres of indigenous people occurred in the area and not that long ago.

They didn’t get full citizenship until 1967 when the white population decided they would give it to them in a referendum. Before that they were classified together with fauna.

Families were frequently split up and children put in “missions” in an attempt to “civilise” them and breed them out of existence. But they were just basically put to work and sexually abused rather than treated kindly.
They are still finding mass graves for these sort of places.

Lidia Thorpe doesn’t have good delivery but I am not at all surprised by her anger.

knitnerd90 · 23/10/2024 03:48

From what I just read (and confirmed through Google) I don't think much of Lidia Thorpe, but I can't say I ever blame an Indigenous person for being angry with the monarchy. Of course, Indigenous Australians can disagree with her, but I'm also sure some would share this specific opinion of hers, and I don't think it's on British people (myself included) to say she's got no legitimate grievance. It's one of those things that Indigenous Australians get to make their own minds up about.

Lavenderfarmcottage · 23/10/2024 03:50

EverybodyLovesString · 23/10/2024 03:26

I think it’s more accepted in the UK because her working class just accept their lot in life and that they will always be working class. The aristocrats feel entitled to be born into wealth and given a title just because of who their parents are. Australia just isn’t like that culturally and the idea of a King is quite odd.

This seems like an outdated stereotype to me. I'm not British but I don't get the sense at all that working class Britons accept they’ll always be working class. Like Australia, there has been a gradual expansion of university education over the last 50 years that has lifted many working class people into the middle-classes. Class is less rigidly defined in Australia perhaps and we don't have an aristocracy but the mythology of the classless society in Australia is just that, a myth.

agree entirely and apologies I think I was wrong about this in many respects and didn’t articulate myself well.

I completely agree that there is a class system in Australia that is less transparent, reluctantly discussed here and even denied.

I think you could be a working class woman in Australia and marry into the upper class or work your way into the upper class and not be challenged. I don’t think you would be proud here to be born into money or not earn it, the opposite. Also there is no such thing as ‘old money’. You will get some serious snobs saying otherwise but we just aren’t old enough to have ‘old money’ and at the end of the day if you have serious money nobody would actually care whether you put it into a modern home or a limestone, heritage ‘old money’ home. I also think there’s more of an emphasis on what you do for a living.

I think here if you’re very good looking or talented, trendy and know the right people or very good at a sport or in a profession that’s impressive that will catapult you into the next social class or different social circles by way of marriage and friendships and so forth or even just education and wealth. However I would hazard a guess that in the UK it’d be stricter, challenging in those circles - you can’t fake it till you make it.

Albaamy121 · 23/10/2024 03:50

@sheri99 I hope you've learned something from the posters above who have pointed out to you - all the bad things that happened to people who were colonised.

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EverybodyLovesString · 23/10/2024 03:51

R053 · 23/10/2024 03:47

I live in Australia and only learned about the First Nations people since being here. There is very little that was positive about what they went through. They were almost completely wiped out. Sometimes going on road trips in Australia you come across historical plaques stating that massacres of indigenous people occurred in the area and not that long ago.

They didn’t get full citizenship until 1967 when the white population decided they would give it to them in a referendum. Before that they were classified together with fauna.

Families were frequently split up and children put in “missions” in an attempt to “civilise” them and breed them out of existence. But they were just basically put to work and sexually abused rather than treated kindly.
They are still finding mass graves for these sort of places.

Lidia Thorpe doesn’t have good delivery but I am not at all surprised by her anger.

It is not true that aboriginal people were classed as fauna. This is an urban myth that has been repeated so many times that it even has its own Wikipedia entry: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flora_and_Fauna_Act_myth

The 1967 referendum gave the commonwealth special powers to make laws affecting indigenous people in a state. The commonwealth already had those powers in the territories.

Flora and Fauna Act myth - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flora_and_Fauna_Act_myth