King charles Heckled in Australia

[Albaamy121]

Did anyone see that King Charles was heckled in Australia this week by an Australian senator, Lidia Thorpe.

She shouted at him "you are not my King, this is not your land, you have stolen our land".

Any thoughts?

I didn't see any thread on it, so I started this one.

See my post above.

Also, Australia does not elect Prime Ministers. They elect parliaments and if the PM doesn't have the support of Parliament they can be removed.

It makes all the difference.

Whitlam’s dismissal was not about who was appointed. It was about the G-G sacking the PM. It’s not remotely comparable to Churchill’s appointment.

Whitlam couldn't command the support of Parliament.

That’s the point – the G-G (or King) can sack the PM. My post was in response to a poster asking what power the UK has over Australia. It has the power to interfere in our political affairs.

Doesn’t mean the G-G should have inserted himself into the situation. It should have triggered a double-dissolution election.

Totally different situation - a very bad comparison.

That’s hugely debatable. It was at the time (I was there) and is still.

If all there is is heckling a visitor and then everyone carries on then it doesn’t do much. The focus is on someone from the U.K. which is removing responsibility and accountability from the citizens who have the power to do much at all.

You can vote to become a republic if the visits are too much, that’s also within your power

If you need to educate first to get the votes you’d like then do so. It’s not really about your relationship with us but more about your relationship with each other. And heckling is a way to push the former rather than the latter.

For schooling, are you proposing changing the whole system for everyone or providing an alternative system?

Heckling a visitor hasn't opened a conversation. So many indigenous people have expressed disappointment at Lidia Thorpe's behaviour.

If Lidia Thorpe's goal was to have the country talking about Lidia Thorpe then she succeeded. If it was anything, it was an abject failure.

So funny reading threads like this. If mumsnet was around at the time that the suffragettes were doing their thing, I’m sure there would have been similar disparaging posts.

She’s a disrupter and she doesn’t need to be perfect for her work and message to be important and needed.

And to the posters denying that Australia is deeply racist or that she can call herself indigenous- you’re just showing up your own racism.

It's precisely the situation when a G-G should intervene. Otherwise government is deadlocked.

I’ve lived in both and the U.K. is wildly more racist than Australia.

That was also my experience.

I thought you said it was because King of the United Kingdom was too long to say 🙄

Am Scottish and anti monarchy btw, but it pisses me off that you've taken a point and pretended it's yours all along. Your ignorance shines through on this thread. How old are you? Do some bloody reading.

Sorry, not doing anything wrong? Have you heard of Prince Andrew?

It is up to Australians to fix, uphold and respect the Indigienous people and culture. Inviting back the white king from the mother country who are a symbol of
white power & heirarchy & started it all probably isn’t the best way to fix it.

Where did you live in both?

Only people talking about Lydia are the people too afraid to have a conversation about becoming a republic and racism because it threatens their sense of conforming and being one of the masses.

Ditto my experience too.

She called him the King of England (being as passionate about the monarchy, you'd expect her to know the basics).
Heckling the royals is always cringe, but so much worse when you consider he's an elderly man currently battling cancer.
It was an epic fail, all things considered.

I’m assuming all of you are non white passing ethnic minorities (I.e. black or brown)? Your usernames “Aussie girl” “pale blueeye” sound very white - apologies if I’ve asssumed wrongly.

Just annoys me when people make judgements on what is more racist when they have never experienced racism themselves to judge. And even if the uk is more racist, on this issue there’s not a comparison- the ongoing role of the monarchy in a colonised and ethnically cleansed nation is racist and hugely problematic. May be problematic here in the uk but for different reasons.

It absolutely is a deeply racist country. The research on it is vast.

And I have also lived in both as a black woman (though Australia for just 7 months)

See I’m black too and that is my experience (although I have only visited Aus)- but my sibling lived there for 2 years in the “multicultural” city of Melbourne and also experienced more racism than he did in London.

The Pale Blue Eye - Wikipedia

It's a film about Edgar Allan Poe.