The Yorkshire Ripper question?

[PassingStranger]

Just read that it cost the taxpayer 11 billion to keep him alive including his funeral?
Do you still feel the same way about him being hung for his murders?

is it acceptable to the taxpayer to pay that much, when there are so many other things that the money could have been spent on, or dosent the money matter?

Food, utilities, prison worker salaries, psychologists (I know for a fact he had regular access), nursing care, etc etc etc.

Hanged. People get hanged. Clothes, pictures and mirrors get hung.

Of all the arguments for the death penalty,the cost of flifelong incarceration is the weakest.

Well I'm not in favour of the death penalty so 🤷‍♀️

I wonder what the cost is of execution of the innocent ? Can that be measured in monetary terms?

https://www.lawteacher.net/free-law-essays/criminal-law/miscarriage-of-justice-case-sally-clark.php

Read this and tell me that we merrily execute when there is "no doubt"
Bit wordier and complex than the Daily Mail but somewhat more intelligent

Where did you read that please?

I heard that it was eleventy billion. But that includes his four annual holidays, his private chef, his valet and his flat screen TV. And his gender reassignment surgery. Which he got, as do all prisoners, funded by the tax payers.

Ok, ignoring those examples - why is death (and therefore the ending of all knowledge and suffering) a worse punishment than lifetime imprisonment? If we're looking at this from the perspective of wanting egregious criminals to receive the maximum punishment.

£343,000 a year.
The average cost for a prisoner is around 32k -40k per year, rising to around 80k a year for a young offender.

i guess a more specialist setting such as broadmoor costs more.🤷‍♀️. Google suggests 300k a year average per prisoner. Better staff ratio??

Oh noes! What a terrible crime! It makes all those murders pale into insignificance. He should obviously have been hanged for that.

I don't think people should be so quick to accept 'shock' news paper articles as utter fact.

100% agree

A while back, the police brought him to Arnside to scatter his uncle's (I think) ashes as he had had a caravan there and Sutcliffe visited as a kid.

I know some people who live there. They went into the village one day and there was big police presence - roads closed etc. This is a sleepy village. Only found out later what it was about. He'd been brought all the way from Broadmoor to scatter his uncle's ashes in this specific place.

I wonder how much all that cost.

Very kind of us wasn't it?

Yeah, the "£11 million" figure looks suspiciously like someone has just taken the most recent estimate for the annual cost of a single place at Broadmoor and multiplied it up by 32 years.

Goady OP can't even get the 'facts' right

Daily Express there, lying again saying his victims' families didn't get a penny. It admits itself that some did, and the fact that others didn't was down to failures in the compensation system which wouldn't pay out to people believed to be prostitutes, even when they definitely weren't. I don't recall the Express complaining about that at the time, they almost certainly completely agreed with the refusal to pay.

You really think we should deliberately put the women of Rwanda at risk?

Doesn't require the death penalty, but with assisted suicide soon to be debated we should consider offering this to lifers in prison.

Well, that's the main problem with the death penalty. It can't be corrected.

😂

So amazing that it's untrue.

Do you know that a billion is a thousand millions. A million is a huge number. 11 of them is 11 times as huge. Multiply THAT number by ONE THOUSAND and it'll be unfathomable to most humans.

And yet, so casual, "yes. Amazing isn't it!" when questioned. As casual as sanctioning state-sanctioned murder. It's not about the Yorkshire Ripper getting a punishment worthy of his crimes (11 billion of them, perhaps?). It's about living under laws where you can be killed, legally, by an administrative process. NOBODY has the right to take another person's life. Not the Ripper, and certainly not a temporarily elected government and its executives.

Definitely not anyone who doesn't know the difference between a million and a billion and casually doesn't even care.

This. I remember reading about how Ian Brady wanted to die and being glad he was being made to suffer by being kept alive against his will.

You only have to look at the horrific homicide rates in the US to work out that the death penalty is no deterrent. Murderers either think they will never get caught or don't care.

Remember the Moors Murders? We had the death penalty while they were happening,

I agree that prisoners should be put to work to earn their keep while staying at His Majesty's pleasure, but I don't think cost savings can be used to justify state sanctioned murder.

Worth it so that we don't have the death penalty, in my opinion.

Why the fuck should the good people of Rwanda have to put up with the scum of the UK?

This whole post is beyond disgusting. I wish such obviously racist people could all be deported. Maybe Antarctica so no other human has to deal with them.