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The Yorkshire Ripper question?

436 replies

PassingStranger · 22/10/2024 13:42

Just read that it cost the taxpayer 11 billion to keep him alive including his funeral?
Do you still feel the same way about him being hung for his murders?

is it acceptable to the taxpayer to pay that much, when there are so many other things that the money could have been spent on, or dosent the money matter?

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WhatsInTheRug · 23/10/2024 18:35

All those saying he should get the death sentence...

Hmm.... you will come deliver his regime then whilst awaiting it?? As well as all the others you will put on 'death row'?

You'd be happy to unlock the door ( yes,you, probably alone or with a newbie) take him where he needs to go...showers,legal meeting etc??

You would do that? With a man with zero hope left?

Silverbook · 23/10/2024 18:36

FeelTheRush · 22/10/2024 13:54

Lol at 11 billion!!!! 😂

That math is not mathing

😂😂

Silverbook · 23/10/2024 18:37

PassingStranger · 22/10/2024 14:13

I have answered I said I could not care less if he had been hung ok.

What if he had been hung not ok?

SweetGenie · 23/10/2024 18:37

@PassingStranger
You do know how much a million differs from a billion don't you?
A million seconds = 12 days
A billion seconds = 30 years

WhatsInTheRug · 23/10/2024 18:37

Come on....who is coming to work on death row? U.K. style and U.K. resources

Anyone??

What could possibly go wrong?

Trishthedish · 23/10/2024 18:38

GalacticTowelMaster · 22/10/2024 13:50

I heard it was eleventy billion

Gill Sims and Judgy would be proud of you 😂😂😂

FarmGirl78 · 23/10/2024 18:41

Waterboatlass · 23/10/2024 12:43

Sorry, I don't understand the conclusion of this? The number of people executed after a (proven) wrongful conviction is lower than the number of murderers with previous for murder? What's the connection?

Not quite. The number of people killed due to a wrong conviction is lower than the number of people subsequently murdered by released murderers. Some don't just go on to kill again, but go on to kill more than one. There's more innocent people killed as a result of NOT having the death penalty. Its a very simple way of looking at it, but the numbers of families hurting and heartbroken, the level of hurt and unjustness in society is higher WITHOUT the death penalty.

I don't know what the answer is, it's a very difficult subject.

BlusteryLake · 23/10/2024 18:42

The death penalty is not without cost though. The cost doesn't end the moment they receive the sentence.

skyscrapersinging · 23/10/2024 18:43

PassingStranger · 22/10/2024 13:44

yes. Amazing isnt it!

Yes. Amazing how you’ve misread it and multiplied by power of ten and then thought fit to continue spreading this information. £11 million ≠ £11 billion.

anon666 · 23/10/2024 18:44

It can't be £11 billion

BIWI · 23/10/2024 18:46

Still waiting for your definition of luxury @Getonwitit Hmm

AlwaysGinPlease · 23/10/2024 18:50

@SallyForf what do you mean
by " and" ?

WhatsInTheRug · 23/10/2024 18:53

BlusteryLake · 23/10/2024 18:42

The death penalty is not without cost though. The cost doesn't end the moment they receive the sentence.

I would leave the service.....many would

SallyForf · 23/10/2024 18:54

OP was outraged about something that we all know was unsuccessful, a moot point.

WhatsInTheRug · 23/10/2024 18:55

Also....a very high percentage of prisoners have adhd/sen/additional needs/autism.....

Still going ahead with executions?

Vynalbob · 23/10/2024 19:00

No but perpetrators of grossly violent attacks should serve their sentences in harsher settings (thinking Victorian cells on an remote unpopulated island off the outer Heberdees kind of thing).
Occasional Zoom visits only.

WhatsInTheRug · 23/10/2024 19:06

Vynalbob · 23/10/2024 19:00

No but perpetrators of grossly violent attacks should serve their sentences in harsher settings (thinking Victorian cells on an remote unpopulated island off the outer Heberdees kind of thing).
Occasional Zoom visits only.

Ok

And how will you staff this place? Would you also want to work in those conditions with those prisoners?

venus7 · 23/10/2024 19:31

MorrisZapp · 22/10/2024 13:55

The utterly botched, viciously misogynist investigation which led to him being free to murder more victims is the real public scandal, and that's the cause we need to keep attention on.

Exactly; this is where the outraged (& accurate) focus should be.

JustMeAndTheFish · 23/10/2024 19:32

I could never agree to or condone legalised murder in my name by the state. I have seen too many miscarriages of justice.

JustMeAndTheFish · 23/10/2024 19:37

PassingStranger · 22/10/2024 14:02

Of course they are, how patronising. Still wouldnt care if he had been hung. I wont be the only one to think that either. There was absolutely no doubt of his crimes.

But OP that isn’t the point.

Waterboatlass · 23/10/2024 20:00

FarmGirl78 · 23/10/2024 18:41

Not quite. The number of people killed due to a wrong conviction is lower than the number of people subsequently murdered by released murderers. Some don't just go on to kill again, but go on to kill more than one. There's more innocent people killed as a result of NOT having the death penalty. Its a very simple way of looking at it, but the numbers of families hurting and heartbroken, the level of hurt and unjustness in society is higher WITHOUT the death penalty.

I don't know what the answer is, it's a very difficult subject.

OI'm not sure how that's an argument for the death penalty rather than whole life tariffs?

Yourcatisnotsorry · 23/10/2024 20:03

I don’t object to the death penalty in such cases but cost wise with the amount of appeals etc. I suspect it wouldn’t actually be cheaper. Prisoners are treated too well though in my opinion, their food and medical care is better than children etc.

Lookslikemeemaw · 23/10/2024 20:05

Thing is, it’s a hospital. And unpalatable as it may be, generations do doctors, psychiatrists,
psychologists etc have studied the patients
/inmates and worked there, and all of that experience and learning hopefully has been used for the benefit of humanity too.

I know several people who have worked at Broadmoor and have gained from it in a professional level.

Cityandmakeup · 23/10/2024 20:05

MorrisZapp · 22/10/2024 13:44

And no, the money doesn't matter, if the alternative is an inhumane, medieval justice system.

Why does he deserve humane?

theemptinessmachine · 23/10/2024 20:06

I do find this case a troubling one. If we are going to keep people locked up forever should it be like this?

www.infobae.com/en/2022/03/28/the-uks-most-dangerous-prisoner-locked-up-47-years-ago-promised-to-kill-again-if-he-gets-the-chance/?outputType=amp-type

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