Police officer cleared

[Toomanywars]

Martin Blake police officer today cleared by a jury of unlawful killing of Chris Kaba

Should police officers get more support. Perhaps not release name until after trial or inquiry.

This.

@username35890 ok, so the alleged incident with the fire arm was “a few days earlier”. Are the police just supposed to assume the fire arm has……vanished? Or do they take every necessary precaution to protect the public? Wouldn’t you react differently to someone who possibly had a gun? I know I would. But then I would also have stopped because I’ve nothing to hide.

Totally agree Millet.
Nobody wins.

You need to inform the Met because they don't agree:

The Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) does not have and never has had a `shoot to kill' policy.

Of course they don't. Absolutely not. But you can stop/disarm an individual without using lethal force. In fact, de-escalation instead of lethal force is what our country prides itself on (in comparison to countries like the USA, for example). Murder/manslaughter is murder/manslaughter.

They are not meant to stand by while a gangster runs over other officers, no.

No one attacked the police, he didn't drive at any police officers or hit any police officers. He wasn't aggressive and didn't say anything.

He drove at police. He then revved his engine with an officer in front of his car.

Just like you or I don't have to wait for someone to punch us first if we feel threatened, an officer doesn't have to wait for someone to but hit/crushed/run over before opening fire.

Who he is is important when people are saying that he had previous convictions. The police didn't know who he was ergo they wouldn't have known of any previous convictions.

'Who he is' is not relevant to the situation, and the action that was taken. What do you think the officer who shot him would have done if Kaba had a gun in each hand and NWAs 'Fuck the Police' blaring out of the radio, shot him more?

People are bringing up his previous because it means they have no sympathy for a little gangsta going out like a gangsta. And nor should they.

I am genuinely of the opinion you’re just on a wind up because no one is this obtuse in real life. His car was linked to a fatal shooting which would have fit the criteria for armed police to be deployed. The suspicion was that he was part of that shooting, they were correct and just because he didn’t have a gun in the car at that point it doesn’t mean he couldn’t have had one and wouldn’t have killed people with the car if he wasn’t blocked in at that time. If he hadn’t been put down when he was god knows what damage he would have caused with his car if he had succeeded in freeing himself. I know it was days previous, I said this. Why do you keep repeating what’s already been said? Do you think that the matter of days erases the enormous significance of the fact this car was part of a murder and that he was driving it? I honestly don’t understand your point in saying that otherwise? That’s why he was pulled in the first place by armed police not because he was a random black man!

They knew enough about him to know he was linked to a murder. That’s all they needed to know about it at that point. He wasn’t stationary by choice. He knew he was faced with armed police who would have potentially needed to erase any threat he posed to them and the public by not cooperating and behaving dangerously by driving backwards and forwards in his car. He gave them no other option by his own design. The chances were too great to risk him being able to run people over by him being able to free himself which he had already attempted in order evade justice for a murder that he did commit. He was a murderer, who killed people and who would have willingly killed again. It’s really not that difficult is it and exactly the reason why this officer acquitted because he took a violent murderer off the streets for good and protected himself and his colleagues in the process as well as any other civilians who would have otherwise fallen victim to his violence.

The end.

Not to mention, people should face prosecution and punishment for any wrongdoing. Not death.

Quite.

Absolutely right result. Just sad that this police officer had to go through this.

He was stationary when he was shot. The police had no idea who he was when they stopped him and no idea of any record. They shot an unarmed man in the head. I couldn't hear the car revving in the video.

https://x.com/SkyNews/status/1848393888853065808

If you can look at this and not see a life-threatening situation for the police then you're really just seeing what you want to see, not what's actually in front of you.

I agree the met is racist and sexist and rotten but I also believe justice was done today and the car occupant dint follow instructions.

Even better, police officers should let themselves get run over so as not to offend anyone.

I am genuinely of the opinion you’re just on a wind up because no one is this obtuse in real life.

It's not that, there's a couple of posters on here that have a particular agenda of seeing racism everywhere, to the extent that they'll attempt to turn a dead criminal into a victim.

He drove at police. He then revved his engine with an officer in front of his car.

Watch the footage. He reversed into a police car, drove forward and hit another police car and came to a stop. When he was driving, at a very slow speed, there were no police in front of his car. The police officer then moved in front of his car and shot him in the head. He was not driving towards the officer at the time.

'Who he is' is not relevant to the situation, and the action that was taken.

People are saying he had previous therefore the police were correct in shooting him. Yet the police had no idea who he was.

I am simply baffled by their purposeful distortion of the facts to suit their warped narrative.

Indeed.

What would you call training firearms officers to shoot somebody once in the head or multiple times center mass?

Opening fire is the absolute last resort for armed police in the UK (other countries have much lower thresholds), but when a trigger is pulled, it's pulled with the expectation that the person in front of you is dying.

Stop arguing about something you know nothing about with someone who does.

Exactly, I don't think I've ever defended the police on MN before but this case was decided correctly.

Well obviously, yes. I'm sure everyone would rather he had faced prosecution rather than being shot. I'm certain the officer acquitted today would rather that too.

Correct decision and I hope the police officer involved can get on with the rest of his life now.

I think we have to question why the CPS in retrospect felt they had a realistic chance of conviction given the evidence in court? Did the CPS feel 'something has to be seen to be done' given racial politics in the capital? We're there those in the CPS worried about accusations of a racist cover up if they hadn't proceeded?

I think there has been a reluctance for the left wing press to highlight the gang land links of this individual and there was a narrative sown of this being another proof of an institutionally racist met. If the jury had somehow found the other way then we would be having a public enquiry and perhaps another BLM moment.

Do you honestly think a police officer should just allow someone to run them over rather than defending themself? Is that something you'd be prepared to do yourself, or is it just other people that you think should be prepared to die when they're at work?

It could have been my uncle Bob in the car. It wouldn't matter. If he was driving a car that had been used in a firearm murder the night before, refused to stop when ordered to by armed police and then used his car to repeatedly ram the police, then uncle Bob would have been asking to be shot!

I’m sorry but whatever your opinion on the shooting of Chris Kaba, this is an abhorrent comment. What about PC Andrew Harper.