Police officer cleared

[Toomanywars]

Martin Blake police officer today cleared by a jury of unlawful killing of Chris Kaba

Should police officers get more support. Perhaps not release name until after trial or inquiry.

Exactly

Maybe, but that’s not what was on trial here, a chest shot would still have likely killed him. Anyway the upper chest (behind a steering wheel) and head are fairly close together so it’s an easy mistake to make and precisely the reason officers are trained to shoot at the largest part of the body, as very very few people have perfect aim.

And they had absolutely no clue about any of that during the time of the incident so what’s your point? Kaba wasn’t the registered driver of the vehicle nor did he come up in the police briefing before the incident. Yes, he should have stopped. He should have stopped the car and made it clear that he had no weapons.

I don’t think the reasons you’ve stated, was enough for the office to kill him. Especially as they weren’t even known at the time

He did his time. Do you not believe in rehabilitation? You seem to be bringing up his past offences as if that’s a good enough reason for killing him?

I am glad the officer was cleared.
I won't say what I think about Kaba. It wouldn't be pleasant to read.

The car had been linked to a shooting the previous night, therefore it’s reasonable to assume the occupant (who was failing to stop) was potentially carrying a firearm and was prepared to use it. It’s really not like they had “no clue” and just decided to pull over a random car, with no reason to believe the occupant may be armed 🙄.

What rehabilitation?

Chances are he would have been the one in the dock if he hadn’t been shot.

It's unbelievable that this even made it to court.

If you’re going to get involved in a conversation when I’ve quote tweeted another poster, maybe try not to be obtuse? Where did I say any of that? I was responding to a previous poster who said, ‘it was that he was a criminal who had been involved in numerous gun offences.’ None of that was known at the time

He did his time ...

... and sadly appears to have gone right on offending, so as with so many whatever rehabilitation he received clearly didn't work (and probably never would have done, if gang membership and the proceeds of crime meant more to him than living decently)

Isn’t the whole point of prison so that the offender can be rehabilitated? Bringing up someone’s past convictions as a ‘gotcha’ moment after they’ve served time for their crime is bizarre

@ItsTheGAGGGGGGGGG

Are you mad . Rehabilitation ??? This guy was a violent criminal since the age of 13. He would never be rehabilitated. How many lives did that policeman save by shooting him .
Mans a wrongun through and through and he got his just desserts . Good riddance to bad rubbish .

If someone aims to shoot in the chest but ends up shooting them in their head, maybe they need additional training

CK was ducking down and moving around so this wasn't about lack of training. He was given multiple warnings to stop and the officer bravely stood infront of the car and took action to stop other people being harmed. As the reports later showed CK had gunshot residue on his clothing so this wasn't someone who was unfamiliar with violence, which is why he acted so aggressively.

I have no doubt he would have harmed the officers or pedestrians, with the car, had he got away. On that basis the officef took the right action.

Prison is punishment, deterrent, for public protection, and rehabilitation.

Delulu!!!
Do you honestly believe this man had been rehabilitated or you just playing devil's advocate?

That's only how it works on TV. Shoot to wound is not a practical tactic. If you discharge a firearm at someone it's because you have determined that lethal force is justified and necessary. If they survive that's their luck but if you open fire on somebody it's assumed you will kill them. If you don't kill them, you've fucked up.

Rehabilitation is a mute point in this case because there was no rehabilitation. Chris Kaba was at the time of his death an active and senior member of a gang, as a result he was subject to a gang injunction. He was named as the gunman who shot someone in a nightclub just days before his own death

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyly5122yeo

Do you actually know what rehabilitation means?

Di you really see the slightest chance someone like this can be rehabilitated?

And no, a big part of a custodial sentence is the punishment as well, not just rehabilitation.

Some people, should they accept the challenge should be above the law.

How could this possibly go wrong?

So many posters stating emphatically that the verdict was “the correct decision”! You weren’t in the court. You haven’t heard all the evidence. Apparently the dead man did not drive his car at a Police Officer until the Officer stood in front of the car to shoot him 🤷‍♀️ I haven’t heard all of the evidence either, so I have no idea if the verdict was correct. I do know that we do not have the death penalty in this country and certainly not without trial!

As for the claim that Police Officers should not be named when charges are brought, do you believe that should also have applied to David Carrick who committed some of his horrendous crimes against women whilst he was on duty as an armed Officer, or Wayne Couzens when he used his warrant card in the commission of his crime - the brutal murder of Sarah Everard? Surely we have moved on from unquestioning trust in Police Officers. Chris Kaba was a violent criminal, but it looks like what he was doing with his car was trying to get away, not drive it at people. I don’t know if that was the case and you don’t either if you didn’t sit through the trial. Criminals are entitled to a trial in this country. Be careful what you wish for.

Definitely the wrong decision!

You should only shoot if your life is in danger.
His life was not in danger.

These police are trigger happy and should use tasers instead.

What do you suggest they did instead? Ask him very nicely?

I’m not sure where to start.

I could point out that bullets and the human body are not really compatible and that any shot, be it in the arm or leg, has the potential to kill if it hits the wrong spot. Or I could point out that the purpose of shooting someone is to urgently stop them from doing something, and shooting someone in the arm is not going to stop someone from killing someone else. Or I could ask you where exactly the officer should have shot when the criminal was sitting in a car with most of his body covered and the officer didn’t have the luxury of time to line up an accurate shot that would prevent the car from killing his colleagues while avoiding all major organs and arteries.

But what I think I’ll ask you is, how about if the police start chasing you down the road, you pull over? How about you don’t use your car as a weapon to batter your way free because you don’t want to be arrested? Why would you think that driving away was still an option when you’re blocked in by cars and armed police are pointing loaded guns at you and shouting at you to stop?

It’s really, really easy not to get shot by police. You don’t even need to put any great degree of effort into it.

I don’t think tasers work through safety glass.

It appears he shot someone a few days before he was killed. Dont think his rehabilitation worked very well.