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To be sick of the word gaslighting?

147 replies

NotOneOfTheInCrowd · 21/10/2024 10:55

Thats it.

Every time someone has an experience they don’t like they say they’re being gaslighted.

People need to and look up the meaning of the word, because by throwing it around so casually has led to the trivialisation of genuine abuse.

OP posts:
soupfiend · 21/10/2024 12:30

Chocolatelabradorsarethebest · 21/10/2024 12:29

And every workplace is ‘toxic’.

No it’s not, your boss is just asking a reasonable request and you don’t like it.

Oh the families who are 'toxic' and you must go no contact with them because, just like all humans, they are a bit flawed and not perfect

Toxic I tell you!

Thatmakesperfectsense · 21/10/2024 12:31

Yes, there are a lot of words that have changed meaning.
Think of 'mental health' replacing 'mental illness' as a descriptor, - I think it has made a lot of people with boarderline cases opt in to the category, someone who is a bit anxious would now have poor mental health.

PTSDBarbiegirl · 21/10/2024 12:32

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 21/10/2024 11:04

It's got the join the list of other terms that 95% of MNers don't understand but confidently use anyway. Like GDPR and constructive dismissal.

Is the same true of data being reduced to ‘95% of all…..’?!

SpinyNorma · 21/10/2024 12:33

The loss of any real meaning from so many words is annoying but I'd argue that gaslighting is a particularly unfortunate one. Given that its true meaning refers to a form of coercive control, people should really understand what gaslighting actually is and use the word precisely so the behaviour can be spotted when it occurs.

Errors · 21/10/2024 12:36

BalletCat · 21/10/2024 12:28

While we're at it throw in abusive. Every mildly unpleasant behaviour here is apparently abusive. A poster can moan that her husband is a bit messy or dared to disagree with her once and everyone starts piling on about how he's abusive and she should leave him. Ridiculous.

Another good one. Relationships can’t just end because they didn’t work out. One party has to have been ‘abusive’

Errors · 21/10/2024 12:43

DSM definition of the word trauma:

Exposure to actual or threatened death, serious injury, or sexual violence in one (or more) of the following ways: Directly experiencing the traumatic event(s). Witnessing, in person, the event(s) as it occurred to others. Learning that the traumatic event(s) occurred to a close family member or close friend

theDudesmummy · 21/10/2024 12:48

"PTSD" is absurdly overused. You are upset/sad/stressed about something bad that happened. That does not necessarily mean you have PSTD, an actual clinical condition.

Valeyard14 · 21/10/2024 12:59

It is another word - add it to 'narcissist' - which is basically meaningless when used on this site. Posters on this site described themselves as being 'gaslighted' when what has actually happened is someone has disagreed with them.

LadyRoughDiamond · 21/10/2024 13:18

Can I please add people stating that they were “crying and shaking” because they were so upset, usually over something pretty trivial. Where has people’s resilience gone?

NeckolasCage · 21/10/2024 13:19

GiveItAGoMalcom · 21/10/2024 11:04

Agree 100%

It's become an MN buzzword now like 'narcissist' and 'safeguarding'.

Another two overused words that people often don't understand.

Please add ‘spiralling’ to that 🙄

Lincoln24 · 21/10/2024 13:19

I agree, it was a useful word to describe a specific form of abuse whereby someone comes to mistrust their own version of reality through a deliberate campaign of lying and confusion from the abus

Not only does it not mean being lied to, it doesn't even mean someone lied to you and then pretended they didn't. It's more than that.

soupfiend · 21/10/2024 13:22

Triggered

Sick of seeing people get triggered all the time

And seeing TW in titles

Valeyard14 · 21/10/2024 13:25

soupfiend · 21/10/2024 13:22

Triggered

Sick of seeing people get triggered all the time

And seeing TW in titles

'Triggered' now just seems to mean 'reminded of something'.

Gerithegiraffe · 21/10/2024 13:28

GiveItAGoMalcom · 21/10/2024 11:04

Agree 100%

It's become an MN buzzword now like 'narcissist' and 'safeguarding'.

Another two overused words that people often don't understand.

I said this to my last therapist. I said ‘I know the word narcissist is thrown around far too nonchalantly …. But my ex genuinely was a textbook narcissist.’ Thankfully she agreed!

DemonicCaveMaggot · 21/10/2024 13:28

I have noticed that many British people seem unable to construct a sentence without using the words 'vulnerable', 'safeguarding' or 'proper'.

BalletCat · 21/10/2024 13:30

NeckolasCage · 21/10/2024 13:19

Please add ‘spiralling’ to that 🙄

In the same vein can we add "terrified"

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 21/10/2024 13:32

Wolfwalkssoftly · 21/10/2024 11:10

Absolutely not unreasonable

I recently paid £7.99 to Prime so I could rewatch the film and be sure I hadn’t made my definition of gaslighting up.

There's a free bbc podcast of the radio play too if you're interested.

Valeyard14 · 21/10/2024 13:32

I also like 'fuming', as in "I'm fuming on your behalf, OP" - although it does conjure the amusing image of people sitting in front of their screens bright red with rage over a stranger's anecdotes.

GiveItAGoMalcom · 21/10/2024 13:34

Can we add 'literally'?

I literally died laughing at that.

<< Typing from beyond the grave, obvs >> 👻

GiveItAGoMalcom · 21/10/2024 13:36

And 'waltzing'.

"Husband waltzed in at midnight".

If I was their neighbour I'd be up at the window, making a TikTok 👀🕺

gladrefrain · 21/10/2024 13:39

GiveItAGoMalcom · 21/10/2024 13:34

Can we add 'literally'?

I literally died laughing at that.

<< Typing from beyond the grave, obvs >> 👻

I'm genuinely peeved at the change of the meaning of literally. It was such a useful word.

These changes of meaning just seem to make language less precise.

I also wish we could still use 'one' , as in ' When one goes to the park..' 'You' causes confusion because its unclear if you are meaning the person you are talking to or using a plural 'you', as in 'one'..

Valeyard14 · 21/10/2024 14:06

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 21/10/2024 12:24

I recommend watching the old B&W film, ‘Gaslight’ - the origin of the word! - to see what it really means.
(For those who are using it incorrectly, obviously.)

Edited

The film Gaslight doesn't actually exist.

[sound of crickets]

redskydarknight · 21/10/2024 14:12

Valeyard14 · 21/10/2024 14:06

The film Gaslight doesn't actually exist.

[sound of crickets]

😂

Thepeopleversuswork · 21/10/2024 14:22

Gaslighting is fine when applied correctly. Usually it’s not.

I would also put narcissist in this bucket. Also introvert to describe a person who hates their neighbours and feels furiously violated when invited out for a drink or a meal.

And bitchy or cliquey to describe any woman you meet at or around school who appears to have more friends than you.

These are words which have passed into the lexicon in a distorted form.

Fuming is different, everyone knows what it means. I just find it irritating. But it does what it says on the tin.

redskydarknight · 21/10/2024 14:24

I am still sad that the word "awesome" has changed beyond the point of ever going back.

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