To think that releasing crickets at a gay rights conference, specifically to shut them down, should be considered a homophobic hate crime? Somehow these people are crowdfunding to do it AGAIN

[Zahariel]

The optics of having to fumigate a hall after gay people used it to speak about their rights being eroded should not be lost on anyone.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13950839/Trans-activists-release-bags-insects-LGB-Alliance-conference.html

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/suspected-trans-rights-activists-disrupt-lgba-conference-with-live-crickets/ar-AA1s9JHH

This is CLERLY A HATE CRIME - yet it's being reported as trans rights activists, not anti gay hate mongers, I can't really understand why not

The people that do this don't believe that any of the LGB Alliance are actually gay men or women - they think they're all white straight Tories. Probably being influenced by American right wing Christians.

Does anyone know where this has come from? Is it just a fabrication? I don't know who the people are (or care actually - as a white straight woman I also care about gay rights) but it almost feels like people just believing any old shit that fits their agenda.

I wasn't at the conference so I can't say much.
But JKR said the phrase "lesbians don't have penises" in her opening comments, and the crickets were released just before Jamie Reed was about to give a talk about gender clinics.
This to me does not sound like silence on trans issues.

Yes that's what I think as well the poor insects lots probably got squashed , for no good reasonanda very juvenile thing to do.

I’ve just donated based on this thread.

Protest away. If they start using Molotov cocktails then sure call it an attack.

But releasing crickets is not an attack.

To be fair, I would expect the opening remarks at a gay conference to be from a gay person, not a straight white woman (JKR).

But LGB meetings aren’t anything to do with being trans. There are trans supporters of the LGBA, those who recognise the distinction between sexuality and gendered lifestyles. The issues are around homosexuality not being recognised for what it is, not the delusion some TRAs give themselves that this is exclusionary to identifying as trans.

in that sentence, what role do the words "white" or even "woman" play? Your issue is that it was a straight rather than gay person.

It is not transphobic to only want to engage in sexual relations/a relationship with individuals who biologically match your sexuality. I wonder, in all seriousness, how quick some PPs would be to jump into bed with a trans person.

I am straight. I am only interested in biological men. It doesn’t make me homophobic, transphobic or anything else.

There's a difference between not wanting to sleep with someone and trying to take away someone's rights.

But you're ok with Mridul Wadhwa, a male who calls himself a woman but doesn't even have a GRC leading a women's shelter?

You're ok with Jason Grant being the lead in a period dignity group?

I take it you're also ok with males taking the gold medals from women's sporting events.

Is it only when the 'wrong' woman does something that you have an opinion?

I know this is wrong thread but I wish people would not be so afraid of insects, some are really interesting, and adults often show kids they are scared of spiders etc and then the children learn the fear from them.If you don't live in Europe which a lot of people on here do, lots of insects are not really going to harm you.Even if they are, why this screaming or jumpy, behaviour this doesn't help either.
I tried really hard to teach my kids not to be frightened of insects only to have other adults,.make them afraid.
Then people use the insects in unpleasant ways like this to scare or upset people.
Okay end of rant.

What rights do trans people not have that any other person does?

Shocking

They're relevant in response to the post I was replying to, but yes the most important part is that they're straight.

Then you will share responsibility for the next homophobic hate crime they perpetrate. Your position is clear.

Agree - if I rocked up to a conference for T people and on the basis of disagreeing with their beliefs, released a load of insect causing them distress and alarm, would my protest be ok? Because I think that would be a shitty and immature thing to do and not a valid protest

And what do you class as 'anti-trans' from the bits you do know?

I think you need to expand on what those rights are that they want to take away. I certainly wouldn't support taking anyone's rights away!
But I'd be surprised if this is what they are wanting.

it’s not a hate crime to protest against GC ideology

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I could however have the rozzers popping by if I was to publicly state humans can't change sex

The opening remarks were by one lesbian, followed by another lesbian. JKR's video message (she wasn't present) was a message of support from an ally. Which is welcomed and appreciated.

Is it a witty and amusing non attack if it’s anyone else?

Would you find it amusing if it was for a group you attended?

Same here. Bet they don't comment though.

Spineless bigots no doubt.

There are a few supporting the actions on the thread, donating even

I have mixed opinions on the things you've mentioned. But I thought about my own experiences, as a research scientist.
If I'd gone to a conference about prostate cancer, and the opening speech was by someone who wasn't a scientist, didn't really know anything about prostate cancer, and was only invited because they'd been vocal about the need to reduce research and funding into bowel cancer, then yeah I'd find that a bit odd. (and I'd probably think that the organisers cared more about reducing bowel cancer research than furthering prostate cancer research).

What rights do trans people not have that any other person does?

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, I hope you are seated comfortably while waiting for an answer to this million dollar question.